NYT story Aug. 15, 1947 "Pak recognized Independence of Kalat" (now Baloch)

[ice_man]

US should have more interest in Balochistan, as it'll provide them passage to Afghanistan and we should do our part in their endevour, but we should stay behind the curtain.

yup just like you did in 1971! or in 1947 regarding the kashmir annexation

 

[lynx]

Balochistan wanted to join india???
And nehru rejected the offer???

He may have his reasons. It would be just like East & West Pakistan separated by unfriendly territory.

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Balochistan wanted to join india???
And nehru rejected the offer???

He may have his reasons. It would be just like East & West Pakistan separated by unfriendly territory.

 

[Black Widow]

LOL epic thread start but indians!! but please explain why was HYDERABAD annexed by india? and what about kashmir annexation???

Bro, India has clear message, Join us or you will be forced to. We will not accept/recognize Independence of any state.

Where as Pakistan had accepted the independence of Kalat..

 

[ice_man]

After Independence Indian stand was clear, Either you become part of indian Union, or we will make you. While Pakistan played different card. Pakistan was formed in name of ISLAM, so the binding force was religion. And many Pakistani member claim that nation concept is secondary in Islam. (Coz when Islam was formed Nation state concept was not there, nation state concept emerge during French revolution and English Magnacarta).

Pakistan allowed princely state/tribal belt keep there identity and help pakistan to grow. Things were fine for few decades. Then came Mr Bhutto, he wanted a strong Pakistan with power centered at Punjab . He abolished old pact and try to make a central power. Bengali ppl saw it as betrayal. they felt cheated, This is not the pakistan Mr Jinna told them..

Same goes to Balochistan, Baloch ppl opposed Punjabi hegemony. Poor Baloch, they had no support, they were mascaraed in thousand, Iran didn't helped them. Where as on eastern front, India suffered the pressure of million and million of refugees. India beg to the world to take care of refugees, USA closed her eye and ignored our pain (A poor nation India feeding million of refugee).

India Cut pakistani Supply line and MuktiWahini won the war. Pakistani should be grateful to us for saving there 90,000 Soldiers. J R Jacob mention "On one incident Muktiwahini wanted to kill the Pakistani Generals, I told them, if they will touch them Indian soldiers will kill MuktiWahini".

is this what they teach you in your school books?????? and who are mukti WAHINI hahahaha

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Bro, India has clear message, Join us or you will be forced to. We will not accept/recognize Independence of any state.

Where as Pakistan had accepted the independence of Kalat.. On same note if Pakistan had accepted the Independence of Kashmir, You would have been happy. Poor Pakistani generals, they tried to take it thru sword...

india sent in its army in kashmir & hyderabad! hence india has always been an agressor!!

 

[roshangjha]

no need for any support just send sunny deol he will handle it!

Get a life dude..

Sending Sunny Deol is the last step taken only in extreme emergencies, just before nuclear weapons. We do not need him for such small tasks.

Your military is already doing a good job in helping the cause of Baloch people for independence.

 

[Deepak123]

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[Skull and Bones]

yup just like you did in 1971! or in 1947 regarding the kashmir annexation

History repeats itself dude!

 

[roshangjha]

is this what they teach you in your school books?????? and who are mukti WAHINI hahahaha]

Everything that a person posts is not taken from what we learnt in school. There are other INDEPENDENT sources in the world too.

india sent in its army in kashmir & hyderabad! hence india has always been an agressor!!

Kashmir is a complex issue. We need not talk on it.

Hyderabad was a Hindu majority and was in such an area that letting it be an independent state or join Pakistan was not feasible. Hence, it was annexed.

 

[Varunastra]

Balochistan wanted to join india???
And nehru rejected the offer???

if Nehru had agreed then i think the same thing would have happened to Balochistan what happened to East Pakistan........might have happened i guess!!

 

[Black Widow]

is this what they teach you in your school books?????? and who are mukti WAHINI hahahaha

Son it is in British and NewYork Library, I would request you to read it, or listen to your own journalist on Geo news. Use you tube you will find the truth. In Indian books We don't teach about Pakistan. . Mukti Wahini were those who were raped and killed by there own Muslim brothers. Hope you remember your general statement "President Yahya said, "Kill three million of them and the rest will eat out of our hands". (Robert Payne, Massacre, The Tragedy of Bangladesh and the Phenomenon of Mass Slaughter Throughout History; P50; New York, Macmillan, 1973)"



india sent in its army in kashmir & hyderabad! hence india has always been an agressor!!

Again you are misinformed. On Hyderabad you have no right to speak. It was never a concern of pakistan or other country. Kashmir was border, The king had 3 choice.
1. Join India and leave the King position.
2. Join Pakistan and leave the Kingdom.
3. Join pakistan and still be the king.

With India he had only one option. Poor Pakistani strategist, they were impatient. Our forces touched J&K kingdom only after the King sign the treaty.. I hope you know it...

But the point remain same, Pakistan recognized the Independence of KALAT...

 

[Rocky25]

Well I think your nation is already doing that.However any major military action would be nothing short of suicide on part of India - Would you be willing to let Delhi/Mumbai and other major Indian Centers nuked for Baluchistan (Which in any case is part of Pakistan)..Because i know Pakistan won't mind sacrificing our country just to main the integrity that's why we got nuclear weapons after 1971.Never again will we let anyone harm the integrity of Pakistan we'll die fighting but will never let you guys win another war.We'll nuke the sh!t of your sh!tty country.

Nuke, Nuke... With this are you guys accepting that Pakistan cannot stand before India with conventional weapons.

 

[Nelson]

if Nehru had agreed then i think the same thing would have happened to Balochistan what happened to East Pakistan........might have happened i guess!!

No, it wouldn't have happened.

The East Pakistan issue happened because West Pakistan didn't give Bengalis their right of forming the government and started killing and raping them instead.

Indian government don't do it.

 

[Jackdaws]

LOL epic thread start but indians!! but please explain why was HYDERABAD annexed by india? and what about kashmir annexation???

Hyderabad was given every opportunity to remain independent - even a standstill agreement was signed between State of Hyderabad and Govt. of India. Nehru did not want to send forces in but it was when Nehru was out of the country that Sardar Patel sent in troops under the Operation Polo and the Razakars surrendered.

 

[Nelson]

is this what they teach you in your school books??????

Yes, the real version. Obviously you are shocked.

india sent in its army in kashmir & hyderabad! hence india has always been an agressor!!

We also did it in Goa because the local people wanted to be the part of India. We'll do it again if the situation arises.

 

[CarbonD]

India's Annexation since independence
Diu
Daman
Goa
Sikkim
Pondycherry
Hydrabad
Mizoram (forced to join)
Andaman and nicobar (later added)
no offence hehe
and rest I have no idea