What's new

Nigeria budgets additional payment for JF-17 order from Pakistan

PDFChamp

FULL MEMBER
Joined
Dec 11, 2016
Messages
489
Reaction score
6
Country
Pakistan
Location
United States
Quwa.org

In its federal budget proposal for 2018, Nigeria has allocated NGN 13.12 billion ($36 million U.S.) as a payment for an order for three JF-17 Thunder multi-role fighters – along with support equipment and spare parts – from Pakistan Aeronautical Complex (PAC).

This follows an earlier allocation in 2016 worth NGN 5 billion ($13.9 m U.S.).

Nigeria’s budget proposal confirms that the Nigerian Air Force’s order for three JF-17s is still in place, but it is being executed through installments paid in cash. The Nigerian Air Force, PAC and Aviation Industry Corporation of China (AVIC) have yet to release a timeline for deliveries.

In its budget proposal for 2017, Nigeria had earmarked $68.76 million U.S. for platforms for “counter air, counter surface, air ops for strategic effect and air support operations.”

It appears that the JF-17 is sharing the allocation with the Russian Helicopters Mi-35M, for which Nigeria took delivery of two and has 10 on order (with delivery slated for 2018), and potentially 12 A-29 Super Tucano turboprop-powered close air support (CAS) and light-strike aircraft.

In August 2017, the U.S. State Department greenlit a proposal worth $593 million U.S. to sell A-29 Super Tucanos to Nigeria. In December 2017, the U.S. submitted a letter-of-acceptance (LOA) to the Nigerian Air Force to finalize the purchase and issue initial payments by February 2018.

In July 2017, the Nigerian Air Force started taking delivery of the Super Mushshak trainers it ordered from PAC in 2016. PAC delivered five new-built aircraft, replacing the interim aircraft it had lent in December 2016. Nigeria has a total of 10 Super Mushshak on order.

On the surface, it would seem as though the JF-17 is factoring as a lower priority on the Nigerian Air Force’s procurement roadmap, certainly in comparison to the A-29 (which is to have a launch order of 12 planes).

However, defence analyst, historian, writer and retired Pakistan Air Force (PAF) officer Air Commodore (AC) Kaiser Tufail told Quwa that he believes there is a strong rationale for the small launch order:

“Nigerian Air Force has taken an incremental approach to the induction of the JF-17. Considering the fact that it does not operate an advanced modern fighter other than a dozen F-7NI (a variant of F-7MG), it seems sensible to have ordered three-odd JF-17, on which maintenance crews would get trained, followed by pilots that will form the core and be available for follow-on inductions.

Tufail added that incremental purchasing also makes fiscal sense, “Financially, it also makes sense to stagger the purchase so that it can be funded from within own resources, rather than overburdening the economy by taking loans.” In addition, by committing a few Block-IIs for a start for primarily acclimation, Tufail stated that Nigeria can stage the bulk of its future procurement for the forthcoming JF-17 Block-III:

“From an operational standpoint, a small purchase of the existing Block-II aircraft leaves open the option of inducting Block-III, which is likely to be available in about two years or so. During this time the NAF would have set up the basic infrastructure and trained sufficient pilots to induct the more advanced version of the JF-17.”

Finally, with PAC mostly focused on fulfilling the requirements of the PAF (i.e. fulfilling the PAF’s objective of supplanting a 190 aircraft by 2020), a small export order is sustainable:

“While the NAF may not be ready to induct the JF-17 en masse for the above-stated reasons, PAC Kamra is also constrained by its production capacity, as it has to cater for the PAF which needs to replace its older fleet of Mirage III/5 and F-7 at the rate of one squadron per year. Apparently, the small initial order suits PAC quite well, since the export orders have finally started, and more countries in Asia and Africa are likely to take the cue from NAF.”

Nigeria will join Myanmar as the second third-party user of the FC-1/JF-17 platform. Myanmar signed its order for 16 FC-1 during the 2015 Paris Air Show. Myanmar’s first FC-1 was spotted undergoing flight tests in China in June 2017.
 
. . .
Thats good news that people are interested in buying JF-17.

While the Tejas is a failure.
Why you bring India into every argument.
That means you are obsessed by them.
Stop doing comparison of everything with them. That just make you sound more obsessed with them. What times have come that our people are more happy at their failure them our own success.

Nigeria ordered 3 jets initially. Did they increase the order or what?
Have heard nothing, no news of more then 3 jets initially ordered and several super Mushak.
 
.
Why you bring India into every argument.
That means you are obsessed by them.
Stop doing comparison of everything with them. That just make you sound more obsessed with them. What times have come that our people are more happy at their failure them our own success.

Nigeria ordered 3 jets initially. Did they increase the order or what?
Have heard nothing, no news of more then 3 jets initially ordered and several super Mushak.
Well Indians like to compare with us on their forums.

So Why not compare?
 
.
Well Indians like to compare with us on their forums.

So Why not compare?
Because they are Indians. They can do stupid things.
Just because they do something stupid doesn't entitle us to follow them...
When something is better then theirs, it speaks on its own. Jf 17 speaks on its own.
We don't have to make Indians believe in this great jet. We don't need their approval.
Even this old block 2 has been sold to 2 countries. We are well into third block which would probably get more orders as so many countries were interested last year and are waiting for block 3.
The actions speaks itself. Has teja been able to find a customer?
Jf17 has been able to find a customer?
 
Last edited:
.
Thats good news that people are interested in buying JF-17.

While the Tejas is a failure.
tejas is simply late not a failure
tejas era was 2000s and now its 2020s, that is 20 years late

inducting, developing takes along time, by the time IAF has mastered tejas it would be 2030. and tejas will not be right at that time. compare it with jf-17 2006 induction time frame vs 2020 so atleast 15 yeasr behind the thunder, even though thudner was envisioned atleast 8 years after the tejas, so timing is the issue and reason for that is two main things.

1. first selection of a wrong engine, second not sourcing everything from the beginning, had india sourced the engine and radar from italy/french or even british the tejas would have flown in mid 1990s and inducted by early 2000s. remember that first First technology demonstrator, TD-1, rolled out on 17 November 1995

2. there was also a fight on who should develop the engine and the radar and other critical systems, now they have decided to buy those off the shelf.

india should have simultaneously done both, i.e develop its own stuff and procure from outside or did JV if it wanted to save money. because we know the requirement was atleast 300-400+

over all buying so many critical systems off the shelf, rather than doing JV or developing it at home will mean the cost will go up to atleast 60-70% the price of gripen, which begs the question why not only gripen.

this what IAF pitched that tejas maintenance is twice and cost is similar after failure to develop engine and radar at home. but poltical govt has forced them to buy atleast 100
 
.
tejas is simply late not a failure
tejas era was 2000s and now its 2020s, that is 20 years late

inducting, developing takes along time, by the time IAF has mastered tejas it would be 2030. and tejas will not be right at that time. compare it with jf-17 2006 induction time frame vs 2020 so atleast 15 yeasr behind the thunder, even though thudner was envisioned atleast 8 years after the tejas, so timing is the issue and reason for that is two main things.

1. first selection of a wrong engine, second not sourcing everything from the beginning, had india sourced the engine and radar from italy/french or even british the tejas would have flown in mid 1990s and inducted by early 2000s. remember that first First technology demonstrator, TD-1, rolled out on 17 November 1995

2. there was also a fight on who should develop the engine and the radar and other critical systems, now they have decided to buy those off the shelf.

india should have simultaneously done both, i.e develop its own stuff and procure from outside or did JV if it wanted to save money. because we know the requirement was atleast 300-400+

over all buying so many critical systems off the shelf, rather than doing JV or developing it at home will mean the cost will go up to atleast 60-70% the price of gripen, which begs the question why not only gripen.

this what IAF pitched that tejas maintenance is twice and cost is similar after failure to develop engine and radar at home. but poltical govt has forced them to buy atleast 100
Thank you for correcting me. Its still late though
 
.
--------------------------------------

nigeria economy is shrinking, there is rampant corruption and booming uncontrolled population, this will mean funding will be a question, despite the fact that it has lot of oil

Thank you for correcting me. Its still late though
and that can be called a failure.
you shouldnt take 25 years to go to serial production from first prototype.
indian time line was early 2000 serial production
compare it with any fighter be it f-16 or jf-17 it takes 6-8 year to serial production from prototype
 
. .
Nigeria to acquire Three JF-17 Thunder fighters
January 9, 2018

Photo-137.jpg

Pakistan Air Force JF-17 Thunder - Photo by Arbab Fahad

By Greg Waldron

Nigeria's proposed 2018 budget document confirms that the African nation will obtain the Chengdu Pakistan Aeronautical Complex JF-17 fighter.

The nation's 2018 budget allocation document indicates that N13.1 billion ($36 million) will be earmarked as partial payment for three JF-17s. The payment will also cover support equipment and spares. This makes Nigeria the first buyer of the type to be officially named, although programme officials have long said there is strong interest for the type in the developing world.

At the Paris air show in June 2015, a Pakistani air force official told FlightGlobal that a "contract had been signed" with an Asian country.

The Asian country has yet to be officially named, but is believed to be Myanmar. Images on Chinese social media have shown a JF-17 in Myanmar air force markings. Powered by the Klimov RD-93 engine, the JF-17 is pitched as a low-cost fighter for developing world air forces. Following feedback from prospective customers, a two seat version was developed, which is now undergoing testing.

In addition to payments related to the three fighters, the Nigerian budget document earmarks funds for the acquisition of two AgustaWestland AW109 helicopters, as well as depot maintenance for two Dassault Alpha Jets and a Lockheed Martin C-130H.

Flight Fleets Analyzer shows that the Nigerian air force operates a broad inventory of 120 aircraft from a range of Western and Eastern European suppliers.

Source: FLIGHTGLOBAL
 
. . .
3 only? I hope its a start for a bigger order.
 
. .
Back
Top Bottom