News from within CAC (J-10B and J-20, also Pakistan related)

[S10]

Huzhigeng recently made another appearance on CJDBY, and brought some more insider information. For those of you that don't know who he is, he works for the Chengdu Aircraft Corporation, the design bureau for J-17, JF-17, J-10 and J-20. It looks like development in the next year will be pretty smooth ride. Without further delay, here is what he said.

When asked about test flights of J-10B, he said:

年底前要入役的。。当然要欢迎总装头头了。第一批1X架。将装备某王牌师。。。某师的人已经有不少飞行员来到成飞了。年底前就有几架要飞走。。。。

"It (J-10B) will enter service at the end of the year, thus military officials came to visit. The first batch will have more than 10 planes, and sent to a first tier unit. That unit had already send quite a few pilots to CAC, and few will fly home with their new toys before the end of the year."

Furthermore, he talked about export:

还有。。棍子的外销已经签了单了。。XIAO BA。。是第一个用HU。。。XX架。。。比一个团多一些。里面的设备有些变化。。。小BA特意要求的。。

"Also, export order for J-10 had been signed for Pakistan. There will be XX planes, slightly more than a regiment (about 2 squadrons) size unit. Some changes to avionics at the request of Pakistanis."

Regarding Pakistani version:

老的。。。。不过里面设备有变化。。。。

"The export orders are for older J-10A version, not B. However there are upgrades done."

About SAC and J-11 export:

北边的战斗机的用HU全是中国空军和海军航空兵。。不可能出口的。以后也不要指望北边的飞机会出口。当然包括北边的四代机。。

"SAC's client are Chinese air force and naval aviation, so export is not possible. Do not expect them to export in the future either, including their 4th (5th) gen."

Whether J-10A will stop production after J-10B starts:

不会。。海航的单子还没有生产完。。还有小BA。。也要生产一批棍A。。。。。

"No, the orders from naval aviation still have to be filled, as well as Pakistan's."

Whether WS-15 engine can keep up with the progress of J-20 on time:

四代大推跟上歼20的进度没有问题。。目前进展还是很顺利的。。明年03架歼20会装上新的航电。。。某所的光电式分布式系统明年也要装机的。。。水平和F35一个档次...

"There is no problem as everything is going smooth at this point. The 3rd prototype next year will be equipped with new avionics. Our own EODAS (Electro Optical Distributed Apature System) will also be installed, and is similar to one found on F-35."

Whether J-10B will be equipped with WS-10 insteald of AL-31F in the future:

很难....至少空军的歼10B目前为止签的单子都是毛子的发动机...太行基本上全部让沈阳装机了...

"It's difficult. All J-10B orders at this point are planing on using AL-31F. SAC took all the WS-10 for themselves."

What kind of engine will Pakistan's J-10 use:

毛国发动机了...这还用问...

"Russian, do you really need to ask?"

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[Xestan]

PAF went for J-10As? Really?

 

[S10]

PAF went for J-10As? Really?

Coming from huzhigeng as a source, it should be true.

 

[Xestan]

Coming from huzhigeng as a source, it should be true.

If PAF had gone for J-10As, then why delivery is taking so long, I mean, they are already in production, I know PLAAF's demands have to be met first but PAF just ordered 2 Squadrons, isn't it? Plus, I doubt if PAF will still be looking for J-10As when a much better variant is ready for production, there's confusion, lets see what senior guys here have to say, I hope it's J-10Bs at the end

 

[Imran Khan]

PAF went for J-10As? Really?

i can not believe this new why the hell ?

 

[Mani2020]

how the hell can PAF go for J-10A

 

[Imran Khan]

how the hell can PAF go for J-10A

thats only thing which put this source in question mark

 

[cn_habs]

thats only thing which put this source in question mark

It doesn't make sense for China to export their most advanced indigenous fighter to any other country until the J-20 came along for security purposes.

 

[S10]

If PAF had gone for J-10As, then why delivery is taking so long, I mean, they are already in production, I know PLAAF's demands have to be met first but PAF just ordered 2 Squadrons, isn't it? Plus, I doubt if PAF will still be looking for J-10As when a much better variant is ready for production, there's confusion, lets see what senior guys here have to say, I hope it's J-10Bs at the end

Simple, CAC only started working on J-10B prototype in late 2009. PAF wanted a mature and proven plane in the form of J-10A, which China had operated since 2004. It's not surprising that orders are taking long to fill, since China has only about 200 plane in service. That's less than 30 planes a year being produced. Two squadrons would mean almost 50 planes, and PLAAF orders have to be prioritized first. The J-10A PAF ordered had some upgrades done.

I know some of you might be disappointed, but the news is straight from the mouth of someone who works for CAC. When it comes to news regarding J-10 or J-20, he's the most authoritative insider source on Chinese internet.

thats only thing which put this source in question mark

This is the same source that revealed details of J-20 two years prior to its test flight. He works on these projects as an employee of CAC.

 

[Imran Khan]

It doesn't make sense for China to export their most advanced indigenous fighter to any other country until the J-20 came along for security purposes.

it was pakistan sir and j-10b will be secure in pakistan too i really don't see difference between pak-china in this level .there may be some other issue but J-10A i don't think so .

 

[Areesh]

"The export orders are for older J-10A version, not B. However there are upgrades done."

OK now where is that facepalm. Oh here it is.

 

[Trichy]

If PAF had gone for J-10As, then why delivery is taking so long, I mean, they are already in production, I know PLAAF's demands have to be met first but PAF just ordered 2 Squadrons, isn't it? Plus, I doubt if PAF will still be looking for J-10As when a much better variant is ready for production, there's confusion, lets see what senior guys here have to say, I hope it's J-10Bs at the end

PAF went for J-10As? Really?

i can not believe this new why the hell ?

how the hell can PAF go for J-10A

thats only thing which put this source in question mark

All your Questions and Doubts are cleared here...

NOTE: IF THE SOURCE IS CORRECT...

Furthermore, he talked about export:

"Also, export order for J-10 had been signed for Pakistan. There will be XX planes, slightly more than a regiment (about 2 squadrons) size unit. Some changes to avionics at the request of Pakistanis."

Regarding Pakistani version:

"The export orders are for older J-10A version, not B. However there are upgrades done."

Whether J-10A will stop production after J-10B starts:

"No, the orders from naval aviation still have to be filled, as well as Pakistan's."

What kind of engine will Pakistan's J-10 use:

"Russian, do you really need to ask?"

 

[Imran Khan]

OK now where is that facepalm. Oh here it is.

hehehehh i hope china will replace them with j-20 soon lolz

 

[S10]

it was pakistan sir and j-10b will be secure in pakistan too i really don't see difference between pak-china in this level .there may be some other issue but J-10A i don't think so .

OK now where is that facepalm. Oh here it is.

It may be difficult to accept, but any Chinese member that frequent defence forums in China will be able to tell you the source is legit. In fact, when it comes to details about fighter projects, he's even more reliable than pupu.

 

[Areesh]

It may be difficult to accept, but any Chinese member that frequent defence forums in China will be able to tell you the source is legit. In fact, when it comes to details about fighter projects, he's even more reliable than pupu.

I am not doubting about the source my facepalm is for PAF.