New Missile Systems for JF-17 Thunder

[Maarkhoor]

@That Guy
Sir i would like to know when we will integrate Ra'ad on JF-17, Since Mirages are going to retire soon and someone told me due to ground clearance issue Ra'ad can't be loaded in center station and too heavy to load on wing stations is this was correct then Ra'ad is also absolute since no platform available to launch it.
@Windjammer @MastanKhan

 

[Syed_Adeel]

No worries. The tejas is being built from scratch, and without any foreign help (despite having a number of foreign parts). I've always thought of India's Tejas project as more of an experiment for future platforms, rather than being a platform in and of itself (even if India plans to deploy the fighter soon, in large numbers). Tejas' slow development was expected, so there is nothing for you to get too sad over.

French Design
US RSS anf FBW
Israeli Radars
US Engine

30 Years of development with a clear goal of fighter aircraft(Not tech demonstrator) and still FOC is not give.
its not the first case. Indian Arjun tank, trishul missile and many other projects are the example of Indian incompetence.

 

[Stag112]

Good going, this fighter development has progressed much better then Tejas which keeps on developing

A relevant comparison would be with SU 30 MKI, NOT Tejas. Not that this is a comparison thread.

 

[GURU DUTT]

Are we talking about famous Indian space ship called TEJAAS , oh that shouldn't be compared with a fighter jet ?

point is when tejas is not reeady then why are pakistanies so worried about it in the first place

secondly logically speaking pakistanies should not stop indians in wasting there money on tejas as IAF & PAF are sworn enemies isnt it then why this worry for indian tax payers money in hearts and minds of muhib e watan pakistanies on this thread or say forum

thridlly thread is about new wepon systems for JH-17 not tejas so why are muhib e watan pakistanies bringing tejas and its capabillities or say lack of it here

and finally tejas should be last of the worries for all muhib e watan pakistanies on this forum and PAF as its salted to replace IAFs current "point defence fighter Mig21 Bison" while PAF first has to counter MKIs, M2Ks , Mig29s and jaguars and then indian air defnce network only then Tejas will be there opponent ... am i wrong

now a coulple of humble questions to all muhib-e-watan pakistanies on this forum

given the logiks above why are you guys obsessed by tejas in the first place ?

is it your ehsas e kamtarri against IAF that instead of counterring IAFs frontline fighter you are countering its point defnce fighter whioch hasent got FOC till yet ?

is it mulk dushmani in you guys as you are showing concern for lack of readiness IAF and its point defnce fighter ?

please no trolling onli honest and serous answers with substantial logick .... thanks im waiting for your reply's

 

[Maarkhoor]

point is when tejas is not reeady then why are pakistanies so worried about it in the first place

secondly logically speaking pakistanies should not stop indians in wasting there money on tejas as IAF & PAF are sworn enemies isnt it then why this worry for indian tax payers money in hearts and minds of muhib e watan pakistanies on this thread or say forum

thridlly thread is about new wepon systems for JH-17 not tejas so why are muhib e watan pakistanies bringing tejas and its capabillities or say lack of it here

and finally tejas should be last of the worries for all muhib e watan pakistanies on this forum and PAF as its salted to replace IAFs current "point defence fighter Mig21 Bison" while PAF first has to counter MKIs, M2Ks , Mig29s and jaguars and then indian air defnce network only then Tejas will be there opponent ... am i wrong

now a few humble questions to all muhib-e-watan pakistanies on this forum

1. given the logiks above why are you guys obsessed by tejas in the first place ?

is it your ehsas e kamtarri against IAF that instead of counterring IAFs frontline fighter you are countering its point defnce fighter whioch hasent got FOC till yet ?

is it mulk dushmani in you guys as you are showing concern for lack of readiness IAF and its point defnce fighter ?

please no trolling onli honest and serous answers with substantial logick .... thanks im waiting for your reply's

We want little fun by pouring some salt on your wounds and we love to see your reaction. When you wasted long time to post your pain in length we enjoy keep crying and let us enjoy your screams.

 

[GURU DUTT]

We want little fun by pouring some salt on your wounds and we love to see your reaction. When you wasted long time to post your pain in length we enjoy keep crying and let us enjoy your screams.

but question still remain will it help you

will it make life of your fighter pilots any safe

will it dissolve the threat posted to your nations security by MKIs, M2Ks, Mig29s and jaguars

or are you saying just to get a non important kick at the cost of lives of your fighter pilots is worth it

rather this pin pricking gonna make indians improove there act and tapper owt all the remaining problems in tejas which one day gonna be used against your own fighter pilots ........ think about it and then answer

anyway i wanted some serous answers and you just prooved you are not the kind to be taken serouslly now go watch pogo kid ... any other serous & muhib e watan pakistani members owt there who like to answer these questions

when tejas is not reeady then why are pakistanies so worried about it in the first place

secondly logically speaking pakistanies should not stop indians in wasting there money on tejas as IAF & PAF are sworn enemies isnt it then why this worry for indian tax payers money in hearts and minds of muhib e watan pakistanies on this thread or say forum

thridlly thread is about new wepon systems for JH-17 not tejas so why are muhib e watan pakistanies bringing tejas and its capabillities or say lack of it here

and finally tejas should be last of the worries for all muhib e watan pakistanies on this forum and PAF as its salted to replace IAFs current "point defence fighter Mig21 Bison" while PAF first has to counter MKIs, M2Ks , Mig29s and jaguars and then indian air defnce network only then Tejas will be there opponent ... am i wrong

now a coulple of humble questions to all muhib-e-watan pakistanies on this forum

given the logiks above why are you guys obsessed by tejas in the first place ?

is it your ehsas e kamtarri against IAF that instead of counterring IAFs frontline fighter you are countering its point defnce fighter whioch hasent got FOC till yet ?

is it mulk dushmani in you guys as you are showing concern for lack of readiness IAF and its point defnce fighter ?

please no trolling onli honest and serous answers with substantial logick .... thanks im waiting for your reply's

 

[batmannow]

but question still remain will it help you

will it make life of your fighter pilots any safe

will it dissolve the threat posted to your nations security by MKIs, M2Ks, Mig29s and jaguars

or are you saying just to get a non important kick at the cost of lives of your fighter pilots is worth it

rather this pin pricking gonna make indians improove there act and tapper owt all the remaining problems in tejas which one day gonna be used against your own fighter pilots ........ think about it and then answer

anyway i wanted some serous answers and you just prooved you are not the kind to be taken serouslly now go watch pogo kid ... any other serous & muhib e watan pakistani members owt there who like to answer these questions

when tejas is not reeady then why are pakistanies so worried about it in the first place

secondly logically speaking pakistanies should not stop indians in wasting there money on tejas as IAF & PAF are sworn enemies isnt it then why this worry for indian tax payers money in hearts and minds of muhib e watan pakistanies on this thread or say forum

thridlly thread is about new wepon systems for JH-17 not tejas so why are muhib e watan pakistanies bringing tejas and its capabillities or say lack of it here

and finally tejas should be last of the worries for all muhib e watan pakistanies on this forum and PAF as its salted to replace IAFs current "point defence fighter Mig21 Bison" while PAF first has to counter MKIs, M2Ks , Mig29s and jaguars and then indian air defnce network only then Tejas will be there opponent ... am i wrong

now a coulple of humble questions to all muhib-e-watan pakistanies on this forum

given the logiks above why are you guys obsessed by tejas in the first place ?

is it your ehsas e kamtarri against IAF that instead of counterring IAFs frontline fighter you are countering its point defnce fighter whioch hasent got FOC till yet ?

is it mulk dushmani in you guys as you are showing concern for lack of readiness IAF and its point defnce fighter ?

please no trolling onli honest and serous answers with substantial logick .... thanks im waiting for your reply's

We don't need to answer your 900 pages questions ?
Its so simple , we are not worried about any bit of your so called paper project , LCA which you see flying in your dreams every day n. Night ?lolzz
We , are just astonished that a super rich country like India wasting its billions on a project & can't reach any where after dam 15 years ?
Its just the astonishment factor , we normally crack over LCA ?
Cause we have done , JFT not the half of what you have spent on LCA ?
NO TROLLING JUST SERIOUS BUSSINESS BUDDY ?lolzz

 

[GURU DUTT]

We don't need to answer your 900 pages questions ?
Its so simple , we are not worried about any bit of your so called paper project , LCA which you see flying in your dreams every day n. Night ?lolzz
We , are just astonished that a super rich country like India wasting its billions on a project & can't reach any where after dam 15 years ?
Its just the astonishment factor , we normally crack over LCA ?
Cause we have done , JFT not the half of what you have spent on LCA ?
NO TROLLING JUST SERIOUS BUSSINESS BUDDY ?lolzz

Capital Fonts and lolzz have your run owt of argument already

total ammount on LCA project including R&D of its engine , buying of radars , avionicks and ew suits , ejection seats and 99 engines among many other items from abroad and making 14 prototypes in three diffrent formats costed india just around 2 billion $$s and its indias first attempt so its pretty reasonable for us considering the whole manufactring base and knowledge it gave us cost is no issue for a so called "rich country like india"

but the question still you dint answer as to why LCA is even considered a threat to Jf-17 on which thread is based

and the real threat to PAF and JF-17 is not LCA but MKI, M2K , Mig29 and jaguar combo tell me do you think JF-17 can counter them both quantitativaly and qualitativaly

+ the fact india is also having a very large varity of multi band & multi layered AESA/PESA based AWACS, Aerostat and ground based radar networks and all those diffrent catagorry of SAMS can PAF defete all that with JF-17 and your super duper AWACS and F-16s

take your time to answer ... remember no trolling .... cheers mate

 

[A.P. Richelieu]

Total ammount on LCA project including R&D of its engine , buying of radars , avionicks and ew suits , ejection seats and 99 engines among many other items from abroad and making 14 prototypes in three diffrent formats costed india just around 2 billion $$s and its indias first attempt so its pretty reasonable for us considering the whole manufactring base and knowledge it gave us cost is no issue for a so called "rich country like india"

I thought the HF-24 Marut was the first attempt.

 

[GURU DUTT]

I thought the HF-24 Marut was the first attempt.

not really sir it was designed by german designer Kurt tank for some other party and even owr beloved and most loved ex president was his student
HAL HF-24 Marut - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Kurt Tank - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


and it was almost half a centuary back so whats your point

 

[Windjammer]

@That Guy
Sir i would like to know when we will integrate Ra'ad on JF-17, Since Mirages are going to retire soon and someone told me due to ground clearance issue Ra'ad can't be loaded in center station and too heavy to load on wing stations is this was correct then Ra'ad is also absolute since no platform available to launch it.
@Windjammer @MastanKhan

Mirages after their ROSE-3 Upgrade have become a potent platform hence i don't think they will be retired any time soon. Ra'ad is a stand off weapon, no reason why it can't be integrated on something like a P-3 Orion.
The goog news is that...

MAR-1 is now operational on JF-17. !!

 

[Maarkhoor]

Mirages after their ROSE-3 Upgrade have become a potent platform hence i don't think they will be retired any time soon. Ra'ad is a stand off weapon, no reason why it can't be integrated on something like a P-3 Orion.
The goog news is that...

MAR-1 is now operational on JF-17. !!

Sir Mar-1 is sure a good news, would you like clarify Ra'ad issue on JF-17 ?

 

[Deltaviper]

Mirages after their ROSE-3 Upgrade have become a potent platform hence i don't think they will be retired any time soon. Ra'ad is a stand off weapon, no reason why it can't be integrated on something like a P-3 Orion.
The goog news is that...

MAR-1 is now operational on JF-17. !!

Awesome ! is that the much hyped "Milestone" we have been hearing about ?

 

[batmannow]

Capital Fonts and lolzz have your run owt of argument already

total ammount on LCA project including R&D of its engine , buying of radars , avionicks and ew suits , ejection seats and 99 engines among many other items from abroad and making 14 prototypes in three diffrent formats costed india just around 2 billion $$s and its indias first attempt so its pretty reasonable for us considering the whole manufactring base and knowledge it gave us cost is no issue for a so called "rich country like india"

but the question still you dint answer as to why LCA is even considered a threat to Jf-17 on which thread is based

and the real threat to PAF and JF-17 is not LCA but MKI, M2K , Mig29 and jaguar combo tell me do you think JF-17 can counter them both quantitativaly and qualitativaly

+ the fact india is also having a very large varity of multi band & multi layered AESA/PESA based AWACS, Aerostat and ground based radar networks and all those diffrent catagorry of SAMS can PAF defete all that with JF-17 and your super duper AWACS and F-16s

take your time to answer ... remember no trolling .... cheers mate

Thread isn't is about LCA ,SO can't say much about it ?
With sufficient avionics & advanced weapons sure JFT can take on most of IAF inventory obsulote juguars , bisons ,other versions of MIGS even some of might 29s , & it will be taking care of the 50% of your air assests & that's enough , not took much time to answer you serial drama type questions ?
Don't repeat it again & again cause then it makes you look , self repeating machine , which is only asking a throw out of office ?lolzz is my trade mark ?keep watching it ?lolzz

 

[GURU DUTT]

Thread isn't is about LCA ,SO can't say much about it ?
With sufficient avionics & advanced weapons sure JFT can take on most of IAF inventory obsulote juguars , bisons ,other versions of MIGS even some of might 29s , & it will be taking care of the 50% of your air assests & that's enough , not took much time to answer you serial drama type questions ?
Don't repeat it again & again cause then it makes you look , self repeating machine , which is only asking a throw out of office ?lolzz is my trade mark ?keep watching it ?lolzz

so you think your chinese super duper JF17s can counter indias Mig , MkIs and M2Ks and jags and you can simply take care of owr 50% assets man that was epic

well let me remind you about air defnce how will your super duper JF-17s gonna handle them or is that onli you have anty radiation missiles and stand off munations

im not repeating myself its just that you know that under no circumstances PAF can defete IAF last they had a slight edge (but still went to tashkent to save lahore) was deu to backing of USA in terms of latest training and equipment now you dont have that kind of support anymore but india does and an economy to support it + india also have support of israelies whose offensive and defensive air warfare doctroine , training and equipment is second onli to USAF and of course russians and french and British but your ego and false bravado doesnt lets you aknowledge that

india also have qualitative and quantitative edge over pakistan in every field and your onli hope is if somehow china comes and fights your war with india .... but tell me when was the last time china did that or will they ever do that in future just for the sake of pakistans friendship and loose all what they have achived after 67 years of hard work

common sirji things are not so easy as pakistanies want to beleve .... rest keep on with what you do best onli helps owr cause better ..... cheers mate