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New border troops to counter China

With China's "assertive" behaviour showing no signs of abating, India is fast-tracking new troop formations for the North-East. Apart from the two new infantry divisions, this includes the interesting experiment of new Arunachal and Sikkim Scouts battalions.

Defence ministry officials said the two fresh infantry mountain divisions, with 1,260 officers and 35,011 soldiers, should be "fully-operational with specialised equipment" by next year. Similarly, the first battalion of Arunachal Scouts will be up and running by May 2011.

While the new 56 Division has its HQ in Zakama (Nagaland) under the Dimapur-based 3 Corps, the 71 Division at Missamari (Assam) falls in the operational command of the Tezpur-based 4 Corps. Both the new formations are primarily tasked with the defence of Arunachal Pradesh.

"The two divisions are now virtually in place, with officers and soldiers already being posted for them. They are in process of getting new equipment, which includes armoured personnel carriers and light howitzers," said an official.

While this conventional troop-building continues, the experiment of Arunachal Scouts is also underway with the training of its first battalion beginning at Assam Regimental Centre at Shillong earlier this month.

2 mountain divisions to counter China - The Times of India
 
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All nations have the right to do whatever they want with their own Defensive strategy.
Certainly. Now I am sure that PLA is guarding its side of border equally as we are guarding ours. A strong defense on either side makes way to peace since neither is in the mood for adventures.

Appreciate your positive comment. :)

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New border troops to counter China

With China's "assertive" behaviour showing no signs of abating, India is fast-tracking new troop formations for the North-East. Apart from the two new infantry divisions, this includes the interesting experiment of new Arunachal and Sikkim Scouts battalions.

Defence ministry officials said the two fresh infantry mountain divisions, with 1,260 officers and 35,011 soldiers, should be "fully-operational with specialised equipment" by next year. Similarly, the first battalion of Arunachal Scouts will be up and running by May 2011.

While the new 56 Division has its HQ in Zakama (Nagaland) under the Dimapur-based 3 Corps, the 71 Division at Missamari (Assam) falls in the operational command of the Tezpur-based 4 Corps. Both the new formations are primarily tasked with the defence of Arunachal Pradesh.

"The two divisions are now virtually in place, with officers and soldiers already being posted for them. They are in process of getting new equipment, which includes armoured personnel carriers and light howitzers," said an official.

While this conventional troop-building continues, the experiment of Arunachal Scouts is also underway with the training of its first battalion beginning at Assam Regimental Centre at Shillong earlier this month.

2 mountain divisions to counter China - The Times of India
On the other hand, I am very pleased that they finally cleared the bill for Sikkimese and Arunachali people to join military as special regiments. This is a great chance for my people to show our skill and capability to serve the country. :)
 
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Certainly. Now I am sure that PLA is guarding its side of border equally as we are guarding ours. A strong defense on either side makes way to peace since neither is in the mood for adventures.

Appreciate your positive comment. :)

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On the other hand, I am very pleased that they finally cleared the bill for Sikkimese and Arunachali people to join military as special regiments. This is a great chance for my people to show our skill and capability to serve the country. :)

How do you spin this as positive? Pre WWI Europe thought the same thing, if everyone has a strong army no one would fight.

....wrong....

This build up has been unilateral, China's focus is still not on India, Chengdu military region (the one that control all of the bordering area to India) is still the smallest and least funded.


china_air_force_2007.jpg


Gee there are only 2 PLAAF bases in the Chengdu MR? and what? they are mostly covering the Vietnam border? Fascinating....
 
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How do you spin this as positive? Pre WWI Europe thought the same thing, if everyone has a strong army no one would fight.

....wrong....

This build up has been unilateral, China's focus is still not on India, Chengdu military region (the one that control all of the bordering area to India) is still the smallest and least funded.

Gee there are only 2 PLAAF bases in the Chengdu MR? and what? they are mostly covering the Vietnam border? Fascinating....

Like CD put it,its about every nation's choice were should they place their security measures and what should b their military strategy,even if this is a unilateral build up no one can claim to challenges it, since China and India do share the best of the relation's,and it does not matter us if Chengdu is militarized or not
 
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Chengdu military region (the one that control all of the bordering area to India) is still the smallest and least funded.
china_air_force_2007.jpg

Gee there are only 2 PLAAF bases in the Chengdu MR? and what? they are mostly covering the Vietnam border? Fascinating....

by the same token India's defenses are also minimal in the north eastern sector. our current force deployments are still largely Pakistan focused, although it is bound to tilt eastward in the coming decades
 
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How do you spin this as positive? Pre WWI Europe thought the same thing, if everyone has a strong army no one would fight.

....wrong....

This build up has been unilateral, China's focus is still not on India, Chengdu military region (the one that control all of the bordering area to India) is still the smallest and least funded.


china_air_force_2007.jpg


Gee there are only 2 PLAAF bases in the Chengdu MR? and what? they are mostly covering the Vietnam border? Fascinating....
The main reason for this difference is that your capital region is far away from any immediate harm in east China whereas there's not much distance between you military bases in Tibet region and Delhi, the seat of our politics and governing. Also there's a "chicken neck" region east of India that connects northeast with my home state-Sikkim and the state of West Bengal to rest of India.

So naturally when capital and other important sensitive regions are near regions of potential conflict, security maybe of top priority. Most of your bases are near Beijing or Shanghai because they are your important centers and you have discomfort from US-Japan area in your east as well as owing to past historical vulnerability from Russia. Just like your southwest is least funded and least manned, our south India is also same since we don't have any threat down there.
 
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It is pointless to station troops near the Indian boarder.
1. The Indian army with its outdated equipments and lack of training hardly pose a threat. Their INSA rifles suck, and lack functional howitzer and personal transport. Tanks don't work over there.

2. For the Indians to attack the logistics will be a nightmare. Also, Indians are not used to the high altitude, including the soldiers to its mountain divisions. They simply don't have the terrain to train.

3. Station an army there is expensive. In times of conflict we can just send troops there with train.

4. The terrain dictates that defense has huge advantage over offense, since we control all the high points. Their Su-30MKIs are all visible on our radar. We know exactly when they take off, every time they do. So any conventional attack or aerial assault will be surpressed at its inception.

Conclusion, no need to add troops, even if the Indians outnumber us 3 to 1.
 
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It is pointless to station troops near the Indian boarder.

1. The Indian army with its outdated equipments and lack of training hardly pose a threat. Their INSAS rifles suck, and lack functional howitzer and personal transport. Tanks don't work over there.

That is the only excuse left for China not to station its troops and possibly take a walk-in. We don't mind whatever your reasons be as long as you keep off. :P

2. For the Indians to attack the logistics will be a nightmare. Also, Indians are not used to the high altitude, including the soldiers to its mountain divisions. They simply don't have the terrain to train.

Were you in suspended animation for the last 45 years? We have one of the finest high altitude warfare units on this planet. Feel free to disagree with something concrete in proof rather than blog entries and fanboy PS pictures. We have some of the highest peaks on this planet, have won battles on the world's highest battlefield and you are talking about poor altitude orientation? :rofl:


3. Station an army there is expensive. In times of conflict we can just send troops there with train.

Whatever makes you sleep tight. :lol:

4. The terrain dictates that defense has huge advantage over offense, since we control all the high points. Their Su-30MKIs are all visible on our radar. We know exactly when they take off, every time they do. So any conventional attack or aerial assault will be surpressed at its inception.

The whole point is to be defensive, Einstein. What will we gain invading Tibet? On the other hand we are expecting PLA to try funny stuff at our eastern border. Su-30MKIs are not stealthy and they are meant there for punishing any misadventures.
 
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It is pointless to station troops near the Indian boarder.
1. The Indian army with its outdated equipments and lack of training hardly pose a threat. Their INSA rifles suck, and lack functional howitzer and personal transport. Tanks don't work over there.

2. For the Indians to attack the logistics will be a nightmare. Also, Indians are not used to the high altitude, including the soldiers to its mountain divisions. They simply don't have the terrain to train.

3. Station an army there is expensive. In times of conflict we can just send troops there with train.

4. The terrain dictates that defense has huge advantage over offense, since we control all the high points. Their Su-30MKIs are all visible on our radar. We know exactly when they take off, every time they do. So any conventional attack or aerial assault will be surpressed at its inception.

Conclusion, no need to add troops, even if the Indians outnumber us 3 to 1.


That's why smarty, specially for china:

a.) India is buying M777 the world's lightest, deadliest and battle proven howitzer from USA.

M777_Afghan_2007.jpg


b.) Purchased 6 nos. of C-130 Super Hercules Transport and will be odering 6 more.

Army-Stryker-Infantry-Carrier-Vehicle-is-driven-onto-a-C-5-Galaxy.JPG


c.) Purchased 10 nos. of Boeing C-17 Globemaster III is a large military transport aircraft. Will be ordering 6 more.

C-17_Globemaster_III_4.jpg


d.) Purchasing Boeing CH-47 Chinook military transport helicopter which can carry howitzers to border.

Afgh-Chinook-airlift.jpg


e.) MMRCA to buy 126 advance fighter aircraft like Eurofighter Typhoon/F 18 Super Hornet/Dassault Rafale.

f.) F-INSAS, in fact, wants to transform soldiers into self-contained, fully-networked, mobile killing machines, with a high degree of `situational awareness' and capable of operating in all-terrain and all-weather conditions.

Under it, infantry soldiers are to be progressively equipped with light-weight integrated ballistic helmets with `heads-up display' and miniaturised communication systems; portable visual, chemical and biological sensors; hand-held computer displays, GPS and video links; and of course lethal firepower with laser-guided modular weapon systems.

The 1.13-million strong Army is now on course to ink three deals for 3,90,000 new-generation carbines and assault rifles.


Conclusion: Never rush to any conclusion in hurry and also never underestimate your opponent. :wave:
 
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There is no conceivable strategy that will have China ever attack India. The economic power that it is to be ( no1 in the world in a few decades), its global trading relationships, the US and Russian stance on India - all of which makes it next to impossible for china to initiate any war with India. The consequences sees China paying a high price for its ultimate goal of being the no1 economic powerhouse in the world.

They will make some small noise around Indian affairs, some provocative steps perhaps too, but I don't see, given their stance on being positioned as No 1 in the world stage, an invasion or a concerted attack on India.

same rules apply for India vs Pakistan, unless terrorism forces its hands. which I sincerely hope does not happen.
 
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Haha, sorry China gets outmatched obviously. We have no money... :D India is rich.

That's why smarty, specially for china:

a.) India is buying M777 the world's lightest, deadliest and battle proven howitzer from USA.

M777_Afghan_2007.jpg


b.) Purchased 6 nos. of C-130 Super Hercules Transport and will be odering 6 more.

Army-Stryker-Infantry-Carrier-Vehicle-is-driven-onto-a-C-5-Galaxy.JPG


c.) Purchased 10 nos. of Boeing C-17 Globemaster III is a large military transport aircraft. Will be ordering 6 more.

C-17_Globemaster_III_4.jpg


d.) Purchasing Boeing CH-47 Chinook military transport helicopter which can carry howitzers to border.

Afgh-Chinook-airlift.jpg


e.) MMRCA to buy 126 advance fighter aircraft like Eurofighter Typhoon/F 18 Super Hornet/Dassault Rafale.

f.) F-INSAS, in fact, wants to transform soldiers into self-contained, fully-networked, mobile killing machines, with a high degree of `situational awareness' and capable of operating in all-terrain and all-weather conditions.

Under it, infantry soldiers are to be progressively equipped with light-weight integrated ballistic helmets with `heads-up display' and miniaturised communication systems; portable visual, chemical and biological sensors; hand-held computer displays, GPS and video links; and of course lethal firepower with laser-guided modular weapon systems.

The 1.13-million strong Army is now on course to ink three deals for 3,90,000 new-generation carbines and assault rifles.


Conclusion: Never rush to any conclusion in hurry and also never underestimate your opponent. :wave:
 
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