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Nepal finds China oil cheaper than India’s
Keshav PradhanKeshav Pradhan,TNN | Oct 29, 2015, 02.57 AM IST

Under Nepal's agreement with China over supply of petroleum products, a senior state bureaucrat said, Beijing will supply fuel at international rates, which Kathmandu might find cheaper than its imports from India. To begin with, China will fulfil at least a third of Nepal's requirements.

Just how effective the Chinese supplies will be remains to be seen as every month, Nepal imports about 2,200 tonnes of LPG. It needs about 15 lakh litres of petrol and 10-15 lakh litres of diesel every day. Nepal spends about Rs 150 billion in Nepali currency to buy fuel from India every year.

Indian officials in Delhi said Nepal was free to act in its interests, though they felt Nepal was to blame for its situation. An official said the ball was still in Nepal's court as India was not responsible for the blockade. "There are sit-ins and protests and only Nepal can address the issues involved. Our truckers are suffering too. It actually seems Nepal itself has given up on the main Raxaul-Birgunj crossing,'' he said, adding Nepal needs to have a relook at its constitution. The official said India was not going to be "prescriptive" about the changes Nepal needed to make in its constitution.

Nepal decided to look beyond India for fuel supply while the two nations were locked in a who-blinks-first game over the Madhesi question.

"Our officials were in talks with China since Tuesday," the bureaucrat said. "From now on, we do not have to depend on one particular country for fuel," he bureaucrat said when asked if China alone would be able to fulfill Nepal's energy requirements. Reports from Nepal, however, said the capacity of the highways from the north needs to be checked in order to ensure steady flow of supplies.

Disruption in fuel supply from India began following a dispute between Madhesi parties and major national parties over Nepal's new constitution. Madhesis (Maithili, Bhojpuri, Avadhi and Hindi-speaking Nepalis) want proportionate representation in Parliament and a separate province comprising all 21 Terai districts bordering UP and Bihar. This apart, Tharus, a plains tribe, too are fighting for similar rights. Major parties claim some of the Terai districts have a Pahari majority.

On Monday, an eight-member Nepali delegation had reached Beijing to discuss the modalities of fuel supply. The same day, Chinese foreign ministry spokesperson Hua Chunying had said China would help Nepal as a friendly neighbour to "relieve its shortage of fuel supply".

In addition, Beijing has agreed to send about 1,000 tonnes of fuel in grant. "This consignment has already reached the Rasuwa-Kerung border point," the bureaucrat said. NOC is making arrangements to bring the supplies to Kathmandu, latest by this weekend.

Rasuwa-Kerung is one of the six major trans-Himalayan routes connecting Nepal with Tibet. The biggest entry point, Tatopani, 110 km northeast of Kathmandu, suffered heavy damage during the April earthquake.

Nepal's decision to get oil from China evoked mixed reactions. In Birgunj, on the Nepal-Bihar border where India has a consulate, Madhesi agitators held a demonstration with placards that read 'China, back off' and 'Do not work against Madhesi agitation by supplying oil in Nepal'. In September, burning of a Chinese flag during a Madhesi demonstration had sparked a row in Nepal.

In stark contrast, some sections of hill Nepalis want their new communist Prime Minister Khadga Prasad Sharma Oli to build bigger roads to China, look beyond India for fuel supply and initiate gas and oil explorations within the country itself. Till some time ago, anti-India demonstrations and burning of Prime Minister Narendra Modi's effigies were regular affairs in Kathmandu.

On top of that, many top Nepali leaders, including Oli, Unified Communist Party of Nepal (Maoist) chairman Pushpakamal Dahal aka Prachanda and his deputy Narayankaji Shrestha, have held talks with various Chinese officials in recent weeks.

"It's sad that the situation has reached such a pass despite our shared historical, religious, cultural and ethnic ties with India," the Nepali bureaucrat rued.

Most hill Nepalis, including ministers, have taken exception to blockade of entry points by Madhesi agitators, especially on "das gaja" (no-man's land between India and Nepal). They derisively call it "India's undeclared blockade" to force Nepal to amend its constitution in favour of Madhesis. Days before he became PM, Oli too had remarked, "Why should any country be unhappy when we are making a constitution for ourselves?"

Incidentally, the paradigm shift in India-Nepal relations coincided with Vidya Devi Bhandari, a Pahari leader from the ruling Communist Party of Nepal (Unified Marxist Leninist) succeeding the country's first President Ramvaran Yadav, a Madhesi. She defeated Nepali Congress's K B Gurung in an election boycotted by Madhesi parties.

Nepal finds China oil cheaper than India’s - The Times of India
 
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I think this may be a turning point for the relationship between Nepal and India. The blackmail tactic backfired. Now India has a lot of more work to do to patch it up.
 
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Nepal finds China oil cheaper than India’s
Keshav PradhanKeshav Pradhan,TNN | Oct 29, 2015, 02.57 AM IST

Under Nepal's agreement with China over supply of petroleum products, a senior state bureaucrat said, Beijing will supply fuel at international rates, which Kathmandu might find cheaper than its imports from India. To begin with, China will fulfil at least a third of Nepal's requirements.

Just how effective the Chinese supplies will be remains to be seen as every month, Nepal imports about 2,200 tonnes of LPG. It needs about 15 lakh litres of petrol and 10-15 lakh litres of diesel every day. Nepal spends about Rs 150 billion in Nepali currency to buy fuel from India every year.

Indian officials in Delhi said Nepal was free to act in its interests, though they felt Nepal was to blame for its situation. An official said the ball was still in Nepal's court as India was not responsible for the blockade. "There are sit-ins and protests and only Nepal can address the issues involved. Our truckers are suffering too. It actually seems Nepal itself has given up on the main Raxaul-Birgunj crossing,'' he said, adding Nepal needs to have a relook at its constitution. The official said India was not going to be "prescriptive" about the changes Nepal needed to make in its constitution.

Nepal decided to look beyond India for fuel supply while the two nations were locked in a who-blinks-first game over the Madhesi question.

"Our officials were in talks with China since Tuesday," the bureaucrat said. "From now on, we do not have to depend on one particular country for fuel," he bureaucrat said when asked if China alone would be able to fulfill Nepal's energy requirements. Reports from Nepal, however, said the capacity of the highways from the north needs to be checked in order to ensure steady flow of supplies.

Disruption in fuel supply from India began following a dispute between Madhesi parties and major national parties over Nepal's new constitution. Madhesis (Maithili, Bhojpuri, Avadhi and Hindi-speaking Nepalis) want proportionate representation in Parliament and a separate province comprising all 21 Terai districts bordering UP and Bihar. This apart, Tharus, a plains tribe, too are fighting for similar rights. Major parties claim some of the Terai districts have a Pahari majority.

On Monday, an eight-member Nepali delegation had reached Beijing to discuss the modalities of fuel supply. The same day, Chinese foreign ministry spokesperson Hua Chunying had said China would help Nepal as a friendly neighbour to "relieve its shortage of fuel supply".

In addition, Beijing has agreed to send about 1,000 tonnes of fuel in grant. "This consignment has already reached the Rasuwa-Kerung border point," the bureaucrat said. NOC is making arrangements to bring the supplies to Kathmandu, latest by this weekend.

Rasuwa-Kerung is one of the six major trans-Himalayan routes connecting Nepal with Tibet. The biggest entry point, Tatopani, 110 km northeast of Kathmandu, suffered heavy damage during the April earthquake.

Nepal's decision to get oil from China evoked mixed reactions. In Birgunj, on the Nepal-Bihar border where India has a consulate, Madhesi agitators held a demonstration with placards that read 'China, back off' and 'Do not work against Madhesi agitation by supplying oil in Nepal'. In September, burning of a Chinese flag during a Madhesi demonstration had sparked a row in Nepal.

In stark contrast, some sections of hill Nepalis want their new communist Prime Minister Khadga Prasad Sharma Oli to build bigger roads to China, look beyond India for fuel supply and initiate gas and oil explorations within the country itself. Till some time ago, anti-India demonstrations and burning of Prime Minister Narendra Modi's effigies were regular affairs in Kathmandu.

On top of that, many top Nepali leaders, including Oli, Unified Communist Party of Nepal (Maoist) chairman Pushpakamal Dahal aka Prachanda and his deputy Narayankaji Shrestha, have held talks with various Chinese officials in recent weeks.

"It's sad that the situation has reached such a pass despite our shared historical, religious, cultural and ethnic ties with India," the Nepali bureaucrat rued.

Most hill Nepalis, including ministers, have taken exception to blockade of entry points by Madhesi agitators, especially on "das gaja" (no-man's land between India and Nepal). They derisively call it "India's undeclared blockade" to force Nepal to amend its constitution in favour of Madhesis. Days before he became PM, Oli too had remarked, "Why should any country be unhappy when we are making a constitution for ourselves?"

Incidentally, the paradigm shift in India-Nepal relations coincided with Vidya Devi Bhandari, a Pahari leader from the ruling Communist Party of Nepal (Unified Marxist Leninist) succeeding the country's first President Ramvaran Yadav, a Madhesi. She defeated Nepali Congress's K B Gurung in an election boycotted by Madhesi parties.

Nepal finds China oil cheaper than India’s - The Times of India
Supa powa India thought it can control Nepal by force, now it is out of hand lol
 
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SO india was playing oil blockade but backfired and china won the oil game. a road to china to be build too.

supaaa powaa hypaaa india you know what, i am beginning to love India they know how to be comical.
 
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So basically India was using Nepal as a captive market to sell over-priced products.

China's oil should have been more expensive, considering the distance of the transportation. Maybe China also is applying this geopolitical game, but at least China did not take initiative, so India can't really blame on China for their own misdeed.
 
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China's oil should have been more expensive, considering the distance of the transportation. Maybe China also is applying this geopolitical game, but at least China did not take initiative, so India can't really blame on China for their own misdeed.
Nah, it makes sense. Fleece the Nepalis for vital supplies, who cares about the shared history, culture bullshit.

Besides, it would have been perfectly ok even if PRC had initiated the moves.After all, Nepal is a sovereign country and anything that happens between China and Nepal is a bilateral issues that doesn't concern India.Indians shouldn't be so inferiority complex ridden and follow the childish thinking of "you cannot be friends with the one I wish to rival" with respect to it's smaller neighbours. After all,Indians have been trying to butter up all sides of the global power pie since it's creation.
 
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Nah, it makes sense. Fleece the Nepalis for vital supplies, who cares about the shared history, culture bullshit.

Besides, it would have been perfectly ok even if PRC had initiated the moves.After all, Nepal is a sovereign country and anything that happens between China and Nepal is a bilateral issues that doesn't concern India.Indians shouldn't be so inferiority complex ridden and follow the childish thinking of "you cannot be friends with the one I wish to rival" with respect to it's smaller neighbours. After all,Indians have been trying to butter up all sides of the global power pie since it's creation.


Funny, this is exactly I felt about the whole Indian "unofficial blockade" fiasco. It is not acting like a superpower with a long term strategy. May be they are just a little too relaxed in their previous dominant position as long as they have been, and overlooked the changing tide.
 
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When Nepal buys Petroleum products from India, it pays through Nepali Rupees - What a luxury India has extended to Nepal.

Here the situation is akin to a slut, who does business, collects the money, yet complains about the pain inflicted by an oversize phallus of the said customer.
 
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Funny, this is exactly I felt about the whole Indian "unofficial blockade" fiasco. It is not acting like a superpower with a long term strategy. May be they are just a little too relaxed in their previous dominant position as long as they have been, and overlooked the changing tide.
That is what happens with Indians. The same happened a few years ago when Bhutan wished to settle it's disputes with PRC and build closer ties with PRC. Indians went full on "control-freak abuser mode v 1.1" and brought the Bhutanese into submission.

The behaviour of the Indian union and it's leaders is like a psycho girlfriend tbh.
 
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When Nepal buys Petroleum products from India, it pays through Nepali Rupees - What a luxury India has extended to Nepal.

Here the situation is akin to a slut, who does business, collects the money, yet complains about the pain inflicted by an oversize phallus of the said customer.

Our oil supplies to Nepal is actually subsidized.
 
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Nepal finds China oil cheaper thana’s
Keshav PradhanKeshav Pradhan,TNN | Oct 29, 2015, 02.57 AM IST

Under Nepal's agreement with China over supply of petroleum products, a senior state bureaucrat said, Beijing will supply fuel at international rates, which Kathmandu might find cheaper than its imports from India. To begin with, China will fulfil at least a third of Nepal's requirements.

Just how effective the Chinese supplies will be remains to be seen as every month, Nepal imports about 2,200 tonnes of LPG. It needs about 15 lakh litres of petrol and 10-15 lakh litres of diesel every day. Nepal spends about Rs 150 billion in Nepali currency to buy fuel from India every year.

Indian officials in Delhi said Nepal was free to act in its interests, though they felt Nepal was to blame for its situation. An official said the ball was still in Nepal's court as India was not responsible for the blockade. "There are sit-ins and protests and only Nepal can address the issues involved. Our truckers are suffering too. It actually seems Nepal itself has given up on the main Raxaul-Birgunj crossing,'' he said, adding Nepal needs to have a relook at its constitution. The official said India was not going to be "prescriptive" about the changes Nepal needed to make in its constitution.

Nepal decided to look beyond India for fuel supply while the two nations were locked in a who-blinks-first game over the Madhesi question.

"Our officials were in talks with China since Tuesday," the bureaucrat said. "From now on, we do not have to depend on one particular country for fuel," he bureaucrat said when asked if China alone would be able to fulfill Nepal's energy requirements. Reports from Nepal, however, said the capacity of the highways from the north needs to be checked in order to ensure steady flow of supplies.

Disruption in fuel supply from India began following a dispute between Madhesi parties and major national parties over Nepal's new constitution. Madhesis (Maithili, Bhojpuri, Avadhi and Hindi-speaking Nepalis) want proportionate representation in Parliament and a separate province comprising all 21 Terai districts bordering UP and Bihar. This apart, Tharus, a plains tribe, too are fighting for similar rights. Major parties claim some of the Terai districts have a Pahari majority.

On Monday, an eight-member Nepali delegation had reached Beijing to discuss the modalities of fuel supply. The same day, Chinese foreign ministry spokesperson Hua Chunying had said China would help Nepal as a friendly neighbour to "relieve its shortage of fuel supply".

In addition, Beijing has agreed to send about 1,000 tonnes of fuel in grant. "This consignment has already reached the Rasuwa-Kerung border point," the bureaucrat said. NOC is making arrangements to bring the supplies to Kathmandu, latest by this weekend.

Rasuwa-Kerung is one of the six major trans-Himalayan routes connecting Nepal with Tibet. The biggest entry point, Tatopani, 110 km northeast of Kathmandu, suffered heavy damage during the April earthquake.

Nepal's decision to get oil from China evoked mixed reactions. In Birgunj, on the Nepal-Bihar border where India has a consulate, Madhesi agitators held a demonstration with placards that read 'China, back off' and 'Do not work against Madhesi agitation by supplying oil in Nepal'. In September, burning of a Chinese flag during a Madhesi demonstration had sparked a row in Nepal.

In stark contrast, some sections of hill Nepalis want their new communist Prime Minister Khadga Prasad Sharma Oli to build bigger roads to China, look beyond India for fuel supply and initiate gas and oil explorations within the country itself. Till some time ago, anti-India demonstrations and burning of Prime Minister Narendra Modi's effigies were regular affairs in Kathmandu.

On top of that, many top Nepali leaders, including Oli, Unified Communist Party of Nepal (Maoist) chairman Pushpakamal Dahal aka Prachanda and his deputy Narayankaji Shrestha, have held talks with various Chinese officials in recent weeks.

"It's sad that the situation has reached such a pass despite our shared historical, religious, cultural and ethnic ties with India," the Nepali bureaucrat rued.

Most hill Nepalis, including ministers, have taken exception to blockade of entry points by Madhesi agitators, especially on "das gaja" (no-man's land between India and Nepal). They derisively call it "India's undeclared blockade" to force Nepal to amend its constitution in favour of Madhesis. Days before he became PM, Oli too had remarked, "Why should any country be unhappy when we are making a constitution for ourselves?"

Incidentally, the paradigm shift in India-Nepal relations coincided with Vidya Devi Bhandari, a Pahari leader from the ruling Communist Party of Nepal (Unified Marxist Leninist) succeeding the country's first President Ramvaran Yadav, a Madhesi. She defeated Nepali Congress's K B Gurung in an election boycotted by Madhesi parties.

Nepal finds China oil cheaper than India’s - The Times of India
May god bless our Nepali brothers for sparing our highly subsidised fuel, and also thanks to China for sharing our burden, and also provide some jobs to nepalis, so that they don't take away jobs from Indians.
 
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China should and will help Nepal build hydroelectric plants over rivers that originate in Tibet and flow through Nepal to India。

Acute shortage of electricity is THE reason for the current duel crisis and a major hindrance to the development of Nepal
 
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