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Another neo-colonialism rule. The so called attack on terrorists groups threatening the territorial intergrity of Mali is just a false reason to impose French rule in Mali. The Lybian attack had three objectives-market the rafale to Scatland and Brazil; push the Chinese out of Lybia and accaparate the Lybian oil and natural resources. Regarding Mali, it is again to market the Rafale and Mirage 2000 but also to have an influence on Mali. Any natural reources like oil resources, now will be given to the French companies to exploit. This is how the Western Racist World proceed. Impose a pro Western Government in the African countries through military intervention to throw out any non pro-Western Government or Leaders, so that all resources are handed over to Western countries. While China participate in tender to buy natural resources, the Western countries steal same from these African countries through military intervention. Lybia is now forced to hand over all its oil production to the French, UK and US companies without tender procedures and excluding China, Russia and even India which is so quick to applaud a Rafale performance while it has nothing to gain except spending money on purchasing Western weaponry. The military intervention will cost billions to an already debt ridden France, which is also caught in a deep economic recession. So why such military intervention, it is not because to protect civilians from terrorists otherwise France would have also intervened in Syria. Such intervention has a hidden agenda, to accaparate Mali's natural reources and imposes a pro-French Government in all African countries and push not only China but also India away from Africa. Thats the reality, so there is nothing to applaud here, Scatlanders are applauding like stupids and idiots as if there country, would gain something. Yes Rafale is performing well, just like the Mirage 2000 (and F 16, Gripen, Tornado, Eurofighter if they had participated in this shameful military intervention), India just like all emerging countries like China and Russia are going to be pushed out of Africa if this trend of Western military intervention continues in Africa.

"PARIS — Mirage 2000D fighter-bombers struck Islamist targets in northern Mali on Sunday, expanding the reach of a French military intervention, and more French ground troops flew into Bamako, the capital, for what increasingly looked like the beginning of a long campaign.

French Defense Minister Jean-Yves Le Drian said the Obama administration has promised to aid the antiterrorism operation in Mali by providing logistics help, satellite intelligence and in-flight refueling for French warplanes in what he qualified as a show of “total solidarity from the United States.”

Le Drian, in a radio and television appearance, said that several planeloads of additional arrivals brought to 400 the number of French soldiers in Bamako to provide rear-area support and protect French citizens. Another 150, he added, have been deployed 300 miles to the north around Mopti, the main town near the line between government-controlled territory and the northern two-thirds of the country that has been ruled by Islamist militias for the past seven months.

Fears that a southward offensive by several Islamist militias was about to overrun Mopti led President Francois Hollande to order the unilateral French military intervention beginning Friday. Le Drian said the Islamist offensive, which was halted by French helicopter gunship raids and Mirage bombing runs, could have punched all the way to Bamako if Hollande had not acted swiftly, implying that Malian army defenses had collapsed.

The minister said more French troops and airplanes are on the way, including advanced Rafale fighter-bombers from bases in France. He did not say where they would be based in Africa. Mirage aircraft currently involved in the operation have been flying from nearby French bases, including one in N’Djamena, the capital of Chad, but some helicopters and other aircraft have been flying from a Malian air base at Sevare.

“There are raids all the time,” Le Drian said.

Human Rights Watch, a U.S.-based watchdog organization, said it had documented the killing of 10 civilians, including three children, in the French bombing Friday and Saturday around the disputed town of Konna, just north of Mopti.

In addition to the French deployment, several African countries have promised to dispatch soldiers immediately to form a vanguard of what eventually will become a pan-African intervention force. With French training and other help, the African force will be assigned to restore government authority over the 250,000-square-mile region that has become a terrorist haven.

“We will put into place the military deployment necessary to achieve our goals,” Le Drian said. “France is at war with terrorism wherever it is to be found.”

French officials indicated Hollande’s strategy is to support the Malian army along the separation line near Mopti, providing air support and military advisers but letting Malian soldiers do the fighting. At the same time, they said, French airplanes will continue to bomb Islamist targets farther north wherever they can be detected.

Residents reported airstrikes Sunday against Islamist positions at Gao, one of the north’s main cities. A militia spokesman contacted by telephone said fighter-bombers also attacked targets at Lere near the Mauritanian border and at Douentza, news agencies reported.

The French operation is scheduled to last in this form at least until an African force can be organized and Malian army units can be trained to send a joint force to restore government authority in all of northern Mali. That could take months, specialists predicted, raising the prospect that the French involvement could be long and risky.


This is particularly true because the Malian army has been largely leaderless since a bungled coup d’etat in March, led by Capt. Amadou Haya Sango. Moreover, the Malian leader who appealed to Hollande for help, Dioncounda Traore, is a provisional president with limited authority; he was installed after the coup in what was supposed to be a political reorganization on the way to new elections that were never held.

The main Islamist organizations in northern Mali are several branches of al-Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb (AQIM), an Algerian-based group that long has thrived in the region on hostage-taking and cigarette trafficking; Ansar al-Dine, a Tuareg militia closely allied with AQIM, and the Movement for Unity and Jihad in West Africa, an AQIM breakaway group.

The Azawad National Liberation Movement, another armed Tuareg group, drove Malian army forces out of the northern stretches of the country last April, exploiting the military coup that left the army command in disarray and the country without civilian leadership. Since then, however, the Tuareg secular movement has been pushed aside by AQIM and Ansar leaders who have imposed strict Muslim law and turned the area into a terrorist sanctuary.

Tuaregs, who differ ethnically from black people who populate the southern part of the country, have long sought — sometimes with arms — to separate or at least gain autonomy from the black-run government. Against that background, the plans for a black African intervention force to restore Bamako’s authority seemed to raise the danger of long-term strife even if the AQIM and other terrorist leaders are forced to retreat into more remote areas.

A senior French security official recently acknowledged that the success of a foreign intervention in some measure depends on efforts by France and others to provide enough aid to the Azawad National Liberation Movement to persuade it to combat the Islamist militias alongside the Malian army and its African backers. So far, he said, that has not been achieved.


French military intervention in Mali expands - The Washington Post
 
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Washington Post? Perhaps the americans are pissed off on losing the MMRCA contract? :P

Anyways France intervened only after repeated pleas from Mali President and ECOWAS union. The world was seeing how brutal was these terrorist to the people in the area they had captured.

No one should support them. Even if China had invaded Mali, there would have been support. Such is the brutal nature of them.
 
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@Pakchina @Rajaraja Chola

The maker of the thread carefully (not really) disguised the first paragraph (which is a rant, containing a country named Scatland, which is buying Rafales apparently-thats how i knew this couldnt have come from WP) into an article from WP.

So smart. :lol:
 
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@Pakchina @Rajaraja Chola

The maker of the thread carefully (not really) disguised the first paragraph (which is a rant, containing a country named Scatland, which is buying Rafales apparently-thats how i knew this couldnt have come from WP) into an article from WP.

So smart. :lol:

I apparantly got that the movement when he mentioned Libya and Rafale in para 1 :D
Perhaps he should write more on American illegal invasions like Vietnam and iraq !!
 
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Pray tell me oh wise one and share your pearls of wisdom , how thee call it Neo-colonism when the democratically elected Mali government itself requested France for Assistance and apart from France , Burkina faso , Togo , Nigeria , senegal etc are sending in combat troops to help Mali government , all Under UN guidelines to cull Nasty Tuareg Islamist rebels ?
When both Canada and UK are reading to lend a hand in Transportation Objectives ?

Stop Picking on France before you get a grasp of issue .
 
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Pray tell me oh wise one and share your pearls of wisdom , how thee call it Neo-colonism when the democratically elected Mali government itself requested France for Assistance

Evidence?
and apart from France , Burkina faso , Togo , Nigeria , senegal etc are sending in combat troops to help Mali government

France is not part of ACOWAS, nor do they have a mandate from the UN not even from their own parliament. France's decision is unilateral.
all Under UN guidelines to cull Nasty Tuareg Islamist rebels ?

Which guidelines? -sames one under which Iraq was invaded and the same UN which cannot do anything to Israel even after its in violation of 70 or so UN's PASSED resolutions?

When both Canada and UK are reading to lend a hand in Transportation Objectives ?

Gearing to get their piece of the pie.

Stop Picking on France before you get a grasp of issue .

Read it yourself FIRST.
 
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The bombing of Mali highlights all the lessons of western intervention


As French war planes bomb Mali, there is one simple statistic that provides the key context: this west African nation of 15 million people is the eighth country in which western powers - over the last four years alone - have bombed and killed Muslims - after Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Yemen, Libya, Somalia and the Phillipines (that does not count the numerous lethal tyrannies propped up by the west in that region). For obvious reasons, the rhetoric that the west is not at war with the Islamic world grows increasingly hollow with each new expansion of this militarism. But within this new massive bombing campaign, one finds most of the vital lessons about western intervention that, typically, are steadfastly ignored.

First, as the New York Times' background account from this morning makes clear, much of the instability in Mali is the direct result of Nato's intervention in Libya. Specifically, "heavily armed, battle-hardened Islamist fighters returned from combat in Libya" and "the big weaponry coming out of Libya and the different, more Islamic fighters who came back" played the precipitating role in the collapse of the US-supported central government. As Owen Jones wrote in an excellent column this morning in the Independent:

"This intervention is itself the consequence of another. The Libyan war is frequently touted as a success story for liberal interventionism. Yet the toppling of Muammar Gaddafi's dictatorship had consequences that Western intelligence services probably never even bothered to imagine. Tuaregs – who traditionally hailed from northern Mali – made up a large portion of his army. When Gaddafi was ejected from power, they returned to their homeland: sometimes forcibly so as black Africans came under attack in post-Gaddafi Libya, an uncomfortable fact largely ignored by the Western media. . . . [T]he Libyan war was seen as a success . . . and here we are now engaging with its catastrophic blowback."

Over and over, western intervention ends up - whether by ineptitude or design - sowing the seeds of further intervention. Given the massive instability still plaguing Libya as well as enduring anger over the Benghazi attack, how long will it be before we hear that bombing and invasions in that country are - once again - necessary to combat the empowered "Islamist" forces there: forces empowered as a result of the Nato overthrow of that country's government?

Second, the overthrow of the Malian government was enabled by US-trained-and-armed soldiers who defected. From the NYT: "commanders of this nation's elite army units, the fruit of years of careful American training, defected when they were needed most — taking troops, guns, trucks and their newfound skills to the enemy in the heat of battle, according to senior Malian military officials." And then: "an American-trained officer overthrew Mali's elected government, setting the stage for more than half of the country to fall into the hands of Islamic extremists."

In other words, the west is once again at war with the very forces that it trained, funded and armed. Nobody is better at creating its own enemies, and thus ensuring a posture of endless war, than the US and its allies. Where the US cannot find enemies to fight against it, it simply empowers them.

Third, western bombing of Muslims in yet another country will obviously provoke even more anti-western sentiment, the fuel of terrorism. Already, as the Guardian reports, French fighter jets in Mali have killed "at least 11 civilians including three children". France's long history of colonialization in Mali only exacerbates the inevitable anger. Back in December, after the UN Security Council authorized the intervention in Mali, Amnesty International's researcher on West Africa, Salvatore Saguès, warned: "An international armed intervention is likely to increase the scale of human rights violations we are already seeing in this conflict."

As always, western governments are well aware of this consequence and yet proceed anyway. The NYT notes that the French bombing campaign was launched "in the face of longstanding American warnings that a Western assault on the Islamist stronghold could rally jihadists around the world and prompt terrorist attacks as far away as Europe." Indeed, at the same time that the French are now killing civilians in Mali, a joint French-US raid in Somalia caused the deaths of "at least eight civilians, including two women and two children".

To believe that the US and its allies can just continue to go around the world, in country after country, and bomb and kill innocent people - Muslims - and not be targeted with "terrorist" attacks is, for obvious reasons, lunacy. As Bradford University professor Paul Rogers told Jones, the bombing of Mali "will be portrayed as 'one more example of an assault on Islam'". Whatever hopes that may exist for an end to the "war on terror" are systematically destroyed by ongoing aggression.

Fourth, for all the self-flattering rhetoric that western democracies love to apply to themselves, it is extraordinary how these wars are waged without any pretense of democratic process. Writing about the participation of the British government in the military assault on Mali, Jones notes that "it is disturbing – to say the least – how Cameron has led Britain into Mali's conflict without even a pretence at consultation." Identically, the Washington Post this morning reports that President Obama has acknowledged after the fact that US fighter jets entered Somali air space as part of the French operation there; the Post called that "a rare public acknowledgment of American combat operations in the Horn of Africa" and described the anti-democratic secrecy that typically surrounds US war actions in the region:


"The US military has based a growing number of armed Predator drones as well as F-15 fighter jets at Camp Lemonnier, which has grown into a key installation for secret counterterrorism operations in Somalia and Yemen. The defense official declined to identify the aircraft used in the rescue attempt but said they were fighter jets, not drones. . . . .

"It was unclear, however, why Obama felt compelled to reveal this particular operation when he has remained silent about other specific US combat missions in Somalia. Spokesmen from the White House and the Pentagon declined to elaborate or answer questions Sunday night."

The Obama administration has, of course, draped its entire drone and global assassination campaign in an impenetrable cloth of secrecy, ensuring it remains beyond the scrutinizing reach of media outlets, courts, and its own citizens. The US and its western allies do not merely wage endless war aimed invariably at Muslims. They do so in virtually complete secrecy, without any transparency or accountability. Meet the western "democracies".

Finally, the propaganda used to justify all of this is depressingly common yet wildly effective. Any western government that wants to bomb Muslims simply slaps the label of "terrorists" on them, and any real debate or critical assessment instantly ends before it can even begin. "The president is totally determined that we must eradicate these terrorists who threaten the security of Mali, our own country and Europe," proclaimed French defense minister Jean-Yves Le Drian.

As usual, this simplistic cartoon script distorts reality more than it describes it. There is no doubt that the Malian rebels have engaged in all sorts of heinous atrocities ("amputations, flogging, and stoning to death for those who oppose their interpretation of Islam"), but so, too, have Malian government forces - including, as Amnesty chronicled, "arresting, torturing and killing Tuareg people apparently only on ethnic ground." As Jones aptly warns: "don't fall for a narrative so often pushed by the Western media: a perverse oversimplification of good fighting evil, just as we have seen imposed on Syria's brutal civil war."

The French bombing of Mali, perhaps to include some form of US participation, illustrates every lesson of western intervention. The "war on terror" is a self-perpetuating war precisely because it endlessly engenders its own enemies and provides the fuel to ensure that the fire rages without end. But the sloganeering propaganda used to justify this is so cheap and easy - we must kill the Terrorists! - that it's hard to see what will finally cause this to end. The blinding fear - not just of violence, but of Otherness - that has been successfully implanted in the minds of many western citizens is such that this single, empty word (Terrorists), standing alone, is sufficient to generate unquestioning support for whatever their governments do in its name, no matter how secret or unaccompanied by evidence it may be.

The bombing of Mali highlights all the lessons of western intervention | Glenn Greenwald | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk
 
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Pray tell me oh wise one and share your pearls of wisdom , how thee call it Neo-colonism when the democratically elected Mali government itself requested France for Assistance and apart from France , Burkina faso , Togo , Nigeria , senegal etc are sending in combat troops to help Mali government , all Under UN guidelines to cull Nasty Tuareg Islamist rebels ?
When both Canada and UK are reading to lend a hand in Transportation Objectives ?

Stop Picking on France before you get a grasp of issue .

Talking about a grasp of issues. !!!

The present government is not democratically elected.
 
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Good article idune, the West has developed a phobia for Islam and Muslims which is a disturbing development. If governments who are not pro America or some Western puppet they better be prepared being bombed in the name of wiping out terrorism. After Afghanistan, US blamed Iraq for having ties with al-Qaeda and instigating fear that Iraq was developing WMD (nukes and chemical weapons). No nukes were found and the chemical weapons that were found were most likely given to Saddam back in the 80's by UK and other EU countries to be used against Iranians. Egypt and Libya were engulfed in wars, US/EU wants to intervene in Syria and now the French are active in Mali.
 
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There you go .Mali president seeks French military help - Africa - nation.co.ke

France is not part of ACOWAS, nor do they have a mandate from the UN not even from their own parliament. France's decision is unilateral.

France does not have to be a part of ACOWAS when mali itself asked France for Military help . And i said under UN framework not Mandate .


Which guidelines? -sames one under which Iraq was invaded and the same UN which cannot do anything to Israel even after its in violation of 70 or so UN's PASSED resolutions?

Please for once stop comparing apples with oranges . In this case country itself has requested military intervention so there is NO INVASION.



Gearing to get their piece of the pie.



Read it yourself FIRST.

Talking about a grasp of issues. !!!

The present government is not democratically elected.

Yeah . I was wrong on this one .

Leave it to Indians to support their colonial masters :lol:. No wonder India's neighbours despise India. If the white man says jump, Indians will say how high sir. There has never been a better servant of the white man than India and Indians. Reminds me of Dobby in Harry Potter.

Rebuttal with points not verbal diarrhea or ask your supervisor for new script .
 
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"They bombed Diabaly. They bombed the town all night long. I am hiding inside a house," said Ibrahim Toure, who irons clothes for a living and happened to be passing through Diabaly on his way to visit relatives, getting caught when the Islamists encircled the town. "It only stopped this morning at around 6 a.m."

French lead all-night bombing campaign in Diabaly

Will increase troop count to 2500, armored vehicles are on the way.

http://www.france24.com/en/live-twitter?ns_campaign=live&ns_source=twitter&ns_mchannel=reseaux_sociaux&ns_fee=0&ns_linkname=live_twitter

Good going France!

Here's hoping for the extension of the campaign towards Egypt and N. Sudan!


The United Nations Security Council has expressed its approval of France's military intervention in Mali. The news comes as Western European leaders consider ways to help its ally end the North African conflict.

http://www.dw.de/un-security-council-backs-french-intervention-in-mali/a-16521496

Face it all you terrorist scum supporters, the world hates radical Islam and will crush it everywhere!

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Following the Prime Minister’s announcement that the UK will provide logistical military assistance in support of French military operations in Mali , a second Royal Air Force C-17 strategic transport aircraft has arrived in France . At Evreux Airbase near Paris the aircraft will be loaded with armoured vehicles and other military equipment for transport to the Malian capital Bamako . French forces are assisting the Malian Government to contain rebel and extremist groups in the North of the country."]Following the Prime Minister’s announcement that the UK will provide logistical military assistance in support of French military operations in Mali , a second Royal Air Force C-17 strategic transport aircraft has arrived in France . At Evreux Airbase near Paris the aircraft will be loaded with armoured vehicles and other military equipment for transport to the Malian capital Bamako . French forces are assisting the Malian Government to contain rebel and extremist groups in the North of the country.

http://www.raf.mod.uk/news/archive/second-raf-c17-departs-for-mali-14012013
 
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Evidence?

French troops prepare to help government in Mali fight rebels linked to al-Qaeda | Mail Online

President Francois Hollande has promised French help to Mali after an appeal from the West African nation for international help to counter an offensive by al-Qaeda-linked militants.

These rebels have links with Al-Queda..

It means Mali is going to be another Afganistan, if proper help is not given..

Why are you guys find it an attack against Islam??

You guys are also fighting against these kind of ideologies..

Or it is that these idologies are bad only when it affects your country??

Mali conflict: UN backs France's military intervention

The UN Security Council has unanimously backed France's military intervention in Mali to fight Islamist rebels, officials have said.

UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon said he hoped the intervention would help restore "Mali's constitutional order and territorial integrity".

Thousands of African troops are due to join Malian and French forces to help push back the rebels' offensive.

France intervened on Friday after the Islamists began advancing southwards.

French authorities said they had feared that the rebels would march on the capital, Bamako, creating a grave security threat for the wider region.

On Monday, the Security Council convened in New York for an emergency meeting at France's request.

After the meeting, France's UN ambassador Gerard Araud said his country had the "understanding and support" of the 14 other Security Council members.

But he added that France also wanted the deployment of a West African force to happen "as quickly as possible".

The force will be deployed under UN Security Council resolution 2085, which was passed in December and allows for a 3,000-strong African-led mission to intervene in Mali later this year in the absence of any negotiated solution.

The African troops are expected in Mali in "coming days and weeks", Mr Araud said, adding that the Nigerian commander of the force was already on the ground.

Mr Ban echoed Mr Araud's call for rapid deployment of an African force.

"The Secretary-General welcomes that bilateral partners are responding, at the request and with the consent of the government of Mali, to its call for assistance to counter the troubling push southward by armed and terrorist groups," his office said in a statement.

However the Islamist advance and French response also "underscore the urgency of implementing all aspects of the resolution".

'Mass displacement'
France says its air strikes have forced back Islamists who took control of northern Mali last year, though the rebels seized one town on Monday.

French Foreign Minister Laurent Fabius said the West African force would include 600 troops from Nigeria, 500 each from Niger, Burkina Faso, Togo and Senegal, and 300 from Benin.

He said France's involvement would last "a matter of weeks".

France has sent about 550 troops to the central town of Mopti and to Bamako, and a defence ministry official told Reuters troop numbers would increase to 2,500 in coming days.

At least 11 Malian soldiers and a French helicopter pilot have died in Mali. More than 100 militants are reported to have been killed.

Aid workers said many people had been fleeing areas targeted by French air strikes over the past four days.

A spokesman for the International Committee of the Red Cross said the humanitarian situation was "fast deteriorating"

"Mass displacement of the population has already been observed, casualties have been reported and we're trying our best to address the humanitarian needs of the population," said Ali Naraghi.

France intensified its air strikes on rebel targets over the weekend, with its aircraft also bombing the town of Gao in eastern Mali. On Monday witnesses told AFP news agency that there had been air strikes on Douentza for a fourth consecutive day.

Residents in several northern towns also told AFP that Islamists in several key northern towns including Gao and Douentza had either fled or taken cover from the air strikes by Monday.

Rebels of the al-Qaeda-linked Movement for Oneness and Jihad in West Africa (Mujao), said that France would pay for its intervention.

Meanwhile, Algeria, which has allowed French jets to cross its airspace, said it had closed its long desert border with Mali.

Islamist groups and secular Tuareg rebels took advantage of chaos following a military coup to seize northern Mali in April 2012.

But the Islamists soon took control of the region's major towns, sidelining the Tuaregs.

One Islamist group, Ansar Dine, began pushing further south last week, seizing Konna.

The town has since been recaptured by Malian troops with French aerial support.

BBC News - Mali conflict: UN backs France's military intervention
 
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