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AMERICAN EAGLE

By David Brown
Washington Post Staff Writer

Saturday, December 25, 2010; 9:52 PM

AT KANDAHAR AIRFIELD, AFGHANISTAN Most of the time, this war-theater hospital crackles with danger and expertise, its staff members working to keep alive people who would be dead if they ended up almost anywhere else in the world.

Military hospital in Kandahar takes care of Afghan civilians, too

But some of the time, often in the morning, it's quiet and almost empty, except for a few recuperating Afghans stoically watched over by family members and, today, a young girl in a pink robe exploring the corridor outside her room in a wheelchair.

The hospital, which opened in May and is owned by NATO, is an odd mix of urgency and relaxation. It features patients whose stays inside its $40 million walls are both shorter and longer than any in contemporary U.S. hospitals.

American soldiers critically injured on the battlefield spend only a day or two here, many unconscious and on ventilators, before being sent to Bagram air base, then to a hospital in Germany and on to the United States.

At the other end of the continuum are the Afghans who make up about half the patients.
They also come aboard medevac helicopters. They get the same immediate treatment as U.S. soldiers. Then they stay, often for weeks, until they are well enough to be transferred to a nearby Afghan hospital or discharged.

Some are Afghan soldiers or members of the national police. Many, however, are civilians or Taliban insurgents. It's often difficult to tell the latter two apart, and to the workers at the hospital, which is run by the U.S. Navy, it's largely irrelevant.

Pediatricians in war zone

About 15 percent of the patients are children. Most are here because of the consequences of war. But there's also a steady trickle of patients who have cerebral malaria, burns from kitchen fires, car accidents, snake bites and obstetrical calamities or have fallen from roofs, where families sleep in hot weather.

"Those are probably the hardest cases, when the kids come in," said Cmdr. Eric Peterson, 40, an emergency nurse. "I don't think people expect that when they come over here."

The Navy did expect it, and planned for it.

"This is the first time the Navy has sent a pediatrician as part of a wartime role," said Capt. Jon Woods, 45, a pediatric intensive care physician. "It is a recognized part of our mission."

'New paradigm' in care

Pediatrics isn't the only addition to what is considered possible and necessary in war-zone medicine. The hospital also has an interventional radiologist, who can snake catheters into bleeding sites that surgeons cannot reach. It has a 64-slice CAT scanner that would be the envy of any radiology department in the United States. It has a neurosurgeon.

"This is a new paradigm, having a neurosurgeon in-theater. But I frankly can't imagine not having this capability," said Cmdr. Steven Cobery, 44, a neurosurgeon who did 120 operations between April and mid-October.

One of the consequences is that some Afghans receive care here and at a sister hospital at Bagram that would be unimaginable elsewhere in Afghanistan. In some cases, it would be rare in the United States.

For example, Woods recently flew to a forward operating base where a newborn had been brought after a difficult delivery. The baby, four hours old, had persistent pulmonary hypertension and meconium aspiration - both life-threatening lung conditions. On the flight back, Woods breathed for the child with a squeeze bag and an endotracheal tube and gave her drugs to keep her out of shock. It was ICU care in a helicopter, delivered by a pediatric intensivist.

The child stayed in the hospital for six days, recovered and went home. The alternative destination - if she had survived to get there - would have been Mirwais hospital in Kandahar City, which has a single ventilator for infants.

Of course, many of the Afghan patients would not need heroic medical treatment if not for the U.S.-led war, now in its ninth year. And much of the time the circumstances of a civilian's wounding are unknown or ambiguous.

To accommodate long-staying patients, the workers at the Kandahar hospital have set aside a room for praying. Relatives are permitted to spend the night in the patient's room. Staff members often get food for the families from the dining hall (and hold it until after sunset during the Muslim holy month of Ramadan). When a patient dies, the face is turned toward Mecca, the big toes are tied together with cloth as prescribed by Islamic law, and someone is called to say the proper prayers.

"We try to be as culturally sensitive as we can, given the mission," said Lt. Cmdr. Timothy Broderick, a nurse who heads the intermediate care ward.

Saving lives, no matter whose

Although the hospital is important to the "hearts and minds" campaign, the military realizes the openness of the doors could compromise the main mission of saving troops' lives. Consequently, if a certain number of beds are filled, the hospital will not take civilians unless they have been injured in combat. Except for the exceptions.

"We always take neurosurgical cases," said Capt. Michael D. McCarten, 58, the commanding officer. "If there is a potential for a life-saving intervention, we'll take them."
In the spring, an Afghan man arrived with his 14-year-old son, who had fallen from a tree. The man had taken the boy to one forward operating base, been turned away and taken him to another. ("Just like in the United States, parents here are very persistent," Woods said as an aside, as Cobery, the neurosurgeon, told the story.)

The boy had a skull fracture. Cobery removed a section of the skull to decompress the swollen brain. He put the skull fragment under the skin of the boy's abdomen, where it would survive until the brain had fully healed. Three months later, the father returned with the child. Cobery put the piece of skull back where it came from. Case closed.

The care and solicitousness extends to Taliban fighters, as well. The only difference is that they are under armed guard until they are handed over to other authorities.

Cobery said, "Not one time has it come into my medical decision-making not to do something for someone because he's a bad guy. To someone, he's a good guy."

Several months ago, the hospital treated a man in his 20s, reportedly a Taliban fighter, who had had one leg amputated very close to the hip joint. The stump had become infected, and the infection had begun invading his pelvic cavity, an ominous development. The doctors told him that they were not sure they could save him.

"He started to cry," Woods recalled. "He said he just wanted to see his wife and kids again."

The orthopedic surgeons mixed bone cement with two antibiotics and fashioned the concoction into small beads. "In the States, this stuff is manufactured. We were our own manufacturing plant here," Woods said. The doctors packed the wound and the pelvic outlet with the beads, then put the patient on extra-high-dose intravenous antibiotics.

He survived.
 
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You should be aware that far more Afghans are shot and murdered than the few who make it to a hospital. For every 1 militant shot, 10 Afghan civilians are killed. That's why American wars are called collateral murder. The Afghan war has far outlasted its mandate to hunt down al-qaeda and turned into a blood occupation. The Americans have no local support, the Karzai government have no authority outside of Kabul, and the war is being steadily lost. Yet the Western media hides behind such heart-warming propaganda to give the illusion that Americans are winning the war. The western capacity of self-deception is limitless. Obama pledged withdraw in July 2011. Now he says he can't get the job down by then so he's going to say 2014. Wake up Americans. Your budget is in the red and your people are unemployed. You cannot afford to win the war you started and I am glad--you will no longer be able to invade countries and murder millions. The American gangster state is at an end. Let a saner, more peaceful American republic take root.
 
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Your youthful fictional opinions might be fun for you but are a disservice to those on the field of battle, both soldiers and civilians.

There are of course no millions killed or wounded. This statement alone costs you your credibility.

What there is are radicals abusing the good name of Islam killing fellow Muslims to try to force them into subjigation as was the case before 911 in Afghanistan.

Give me the late King of Afghanistan any day. Lack of infrastructure, no central communications, banking, medical system, educational system, you name it has created a mess which religious racials thrive in due to the 90% illiteracy rate.

These people need help to escape religious radicalism and intolerance, not childish statements from Canada.
 
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I'm not surprised that an American coddled by their self-serving media would accuse a stark and unbiased view of Afghanistan "youthful" and "fictional". Unfortunately, it is your own soldiers who are dying (which you don't care about) and innocent Afghans caught in the crossfire (which to you are collateral damage) in your pipe dream to craft an american style democracy in tribal afghanistan.

You also quoted me out of context. Millions have died in the american invasions (emphasis plural--get your english right). In fact, in Iraq alone:
ORB (Opinion Research Business), an independent polling agency located in London, published estimates of the total war casualties in Iraq since the US-led invasion of Iraq in 2003 at over 1.2 million deaths (1,220,580).

Cheap rhetorical tricks are not going to win you a war.

These people need help to escape religious radicalism and intolerance
Americans shoot more Afghans than they can hope to heal and bomb more Afghan houses than they can hope to rebuild. The very brutality of night raids and shooting up weddings turn exacerbates the Taliban resistance and erodes Afghan support. The irony of the American War on Terror has been to radicalizes Muslims and breed more terror.
 
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It is unhealthy for you to conflate military occupation and humanitarian work. The former uses guns and bombs to kill. The latter builds hospitals and feeds hungry children. To use soldiers to pass out aid and then come back in the night to shoot Afghans in their sleep is fundamentally paradoxical and self-defeating. The best thing you can do for Afghans is to withdraw military troops and channel war money into reparations to rebuild the country as an honest penitent.
 
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See the problem with NATO and US in general is not their caregiving its their sense of right to KILL general average people in name of protecting their own ambitions , its no different then ambitions of the so called terrorist

Of course the terrorist also treat the captured POW well and release them now and then that does not mean their over all standing or moral standing is any better they still bombed innocent ppl

So I see no difference if NATO or US is so much loving and caring why do they bomb the cities or homes , kill over 10,000 people and injury 20,000 ppl in last 10 years

Secondly the right to HIDE the war crimes is another issue which as you know now is well exposed by Wiki leaks -

No one is denying the good in NATO or US but we also have to pin point EVIL that is NATO or US in general

I mean how many innocent villgers have been bombed by China ? or Russia ... I don't remember any one complaining about them for good 10-20 years
 
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See the problem with NATO and US in general is not their caregiving its their sense of right to KILL general average people in name of protecting their own ambitions , its no different then ambitions of the so called terrorist.

You hit that right on the nail. From the perspective of the Canadian (and the American) left, what you say is obvious. Iraq was an illegal war--the UN said so. Still, the Americans went in with guns blazing, bombed the country to the stone age, and started a civil war. Not only did they kill a million Iraqis, they shattered the Iraqi livelihoods and enlarged the US deficit.

But you know what's being said about the Iraq war in the North American media? It's all worth it because we brought "freedom and democracy" to Iraq. After a million dead!? After radicalizing Muslims and strengthening extremist organization!? After hundreds of billions added to the American deficit!? The galling thing is, the million dead doesn't even factor into the calculation for the cost-benefit analysis out here in the West. Those two words "freedom" and "democracy" will outbalance and excuse any cost, any atrocity. It's sick.
 
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Then there is the problem of Afghanistan. There is no public dialogue on this issue in Canada, unlike in Europe. The conservative government makes the decision for us. Bush Jr may have left the white house, but Stephen Harper is still lording over parliament hill.

But the problem is not the government, it's the sentiment of the people. Canadians want a bigger role in the world. We want to see Canadian flags planted and western values spread to the "unenlightened" corners of the world. We have made a pet project out of Afghanistan.

The Canadian media airs stories about building power plants, laying bridges, establishing schools. They honor fallen soldiers. But never ever is there image of gun shot wounds, or mangled bodies, or the taboo of taboos Canadian soldiers shooting down insurgents. But more often that not, there is simply silence. The government likes to run the war without interference from the public, the media wants clean news, the people wants our soldiers to kick *** and take names and make Canada proud.

When anyone from the political left tries to question the status quo, we are quickly silenced by one of many political talking points. Support our soldiers! Don't you want to see Afghan girls go to school? Don't you want to see freedom and democracy?

I say: the best way to support our soldiers is to bring them home. I want to see woman's rights, when Afghans are ready, and not because we say so. Freedom and democracy is not worth blood and bodies. Let Afghans choose the form of government which suits them best. Let them experiment. Our job is not to shove our ideology down other people's throats, but to lead by example.

But many accounts, the coalition forces are not winning the war in Afghanistan. We can either drag the war out for another ten years, until defeat is certain, or we can withdraw now and channel war money into truly rebuilding Afghanistan. Right now we are doing more killing than rebuilding. We are doing more harm than good.
 
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I thought all hospitals in war zones did this? Even the Japanese would offer cake to American soldiers when they were sent to hospitals in WWII.
 
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Some of the above commentors are distorting and lying about the facts, not I.

The subject line involved civilians being treated for free in a large new NATO hsopital in AFGHANISTAN. The gross population in 2010 of all of Afghanistan, estimated in the new 2011 NEW YORK TIMES WORLD ALMANAC, is 29,121,286.

The United Nations authorized authorized on Dec. 20, 2001 a multinational security force in Afghanistan.

The Northern Alliance who had long fought and opposed the Taliban in Northern Iraq joined up with UN forces and four other anti-Taliban factions to fight the terrorist supporting Taliban who enabled and protected the al Qaida personnel, training camps, and Osama bin Laden.

The US announced the end of major military operations May 1, 2003, but violence by the Taliban and al Qaida continued targeting UN relief and reconstructin workers, many of whom were assassinated.

A new Afghan Constitution took effect Jan. 26, 2004.

President Karzai won relection Oct. 9, 2004 with 55.4% of the vote.

Terrorists tried to prevent and kill off voters in the Sept. 18, 2005 election for a 249 seat national assembly. Millions of Afghans defied threats of violence to vote; at least 14 people were killed in more than 20 election attacks by terrorists.

The most intense fighting in more than 4 years erupted March 2006 with a new wave of suicide bombings, rocket and mortar attacks, and other strikes by Taliban insurgents against civilian and military targets.

Operating from sanctuaries across the border in Pakistan Islamist suicide bombers and Taliban insurgents stepped up their activites during 2007-2010.

ACCORDING TO THE UN 1,271 AFGHAN CIVILIANS WERE KILLED AND 1,997 WOUNDED DURING THE FIRST 6 MONTHS OF 2010;
THE COMBINED TOTAL WAS 31% HIGHER THAN THE CORRESPONDING PERIOD IN 2009.

IT REMAINS SHEER LIES AND PRO-TERRORISTS/AL QUAID/TALIBAN INSPIRED PROPAGANDA TO ALLEDGE ANY LARGER NUMBER OF CASUALTIES, CIVILIAN NOR MILITARY, EVER OCCURRED. THIS IS SIMPLY A WASTE OF TIME FAKE CLAIM MADE UP BY THE TALIBAN FRIENDLY WRITERS AND THEIR FELLOW TRAVELERS ON THIS SITE.


No military hospital in all recorded history has ever devoted 50% of it's surgical and bed capacity to treating non-combatants, including severely wounded Taliban fighters. This is a fact, not the baloney invited by other science fiction writers here.

The UN focus is on getting Paksitan to shut down and keep shut down Taliban and al Qaida training camps and concentrations being harbored inside Paksitan today. Pakistan has never had a strong nor effective control in it's northern territories areas which are largely badlands, a wild topography area with some of the highest mountains in the world there... fraught for hundreds of years of... by world standards... criminal and poppy/opium growing and marketing. The Taliban in both Pakistan and Afghanistan are being financed now by poppy crops they encourage and carry on themselves.
 
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Mr. Eagle, The Mighty American Military which have Sophisticated Surveillance equipments and Drones which can do round the clock 24/7 surveillance, You Have Gorgon Star Drone which have 9 cameras, You Have Reaper drones, You Have C-130 equipped with sensitive thermal and infrared technologies which can detect objects radiating heat so easily, You have AWACS, ELINT asserts which can pick Communication Signals and you can easily know the location of your enemy

While having so much airborne asserts, you can effectively manage your side of border, at least you can manage those sides from where you think majority of terrorists cross, and when you detect those terrorists, send a reaper and kill them,

Having so much resources and still crying like babies and pointing fingers at Pakistan Army that They Dont destroy terrorist Hideouts or they allow them to cross The Border, it's just Pathetic
 
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Pakistan has never had a strong nor effective control in it's northern territories areas which are largely badlands, a wild topography area with some of the highest mountains in the world there... fraught for hundreds of years of... by world standards... criminal and poppy/opium growing and marketing. The Taliban in both Pakistan and Afghanistan are being financed now by poppy crops they encourage and carry on themselves.

Mr American Eagle How Much Control Does US have over Whole Afghanistan? What Steps Nato alliance have taken in these 10 years to eradicate the poppy cultivation? When your own house is not in order, then don't point fingers at some one house
 
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IT REMAINS SHEER LIES AND PRO-TERRORISTS/AL QUAID/TALIBAN INSPIRED PROPAGANDA TO ALLEDGE ANY LARGER NUMBER OF CASUALTIES, CIVILIAN NOR MILITARY, EVER OCCURRED. THIS IS SIMPLY A WASTE OF TIME FAKE CLAIM MADE UP BY THE TALIBAN FRIENDLY WRITERS AND THEIR FELLOW TRAVELERS ON THIS SITE.[/I][/B]

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Let me show you the other side coin,,, which descibes how civilians are killed by NATO Forces

'Underreporting' of civilian deaths by coalition forces
Some of the documents appear to indicate the "underreporting" of civilian casualties.

In 2008, an AC-130 "Spectre" gunship carried out a ground attack on the village of Azizabad in Herat Province. The target was a Taliban commander. The report at the time said that no civilians had died. It only refers to 30 insurgents killed in action.

In fact, according to a UN report, 90 civilians died - 60 of them children as well as 15 women.

Meanwhile in September 2006, troops taking part in Operation Medusa moved into a large area around Panjwayi, west of Kandahar, and a known Taliban stronghold.

A Nato report found that 31 civilians had died - 20 of them from the same extended family following an airstrike. The leaked documents record 181 deaths.



(US army paratroopers battle militants in northwest Afghanistan - Getty)

Top secret black-ops unit targeting Taliban and Al Qaeda leaders on 'capture/kill lists'
In June 2007 a special forces unit - Task Force 373 - attempted to kill or capture a senior al-Qaida commander. The leaked secret report shows that the operation left seven children dead. The documents also reveals that "TF 373" were using deadly high-mobility artillery rocket systems - known as "Himars" missiles.

Julian Assange told Channel 4 News: "There are many reports discussing the assassination lists that the US military have - hundreds, maybe thousands, of people are on these lists."

Secret files leak: Afghanistan's hidden war - Channel 4 News

Not To Forget

 
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I am very proud of the Pakistani Army as a retired ally, a retired USAF officer.

My comments are directed at the ISI and those who collaborate and give succor to al Qaida and Taliban terrorists harbored inside the northern territories, which area has never been a "real" part of Paksitan...pro-terrorists there resent and condemn and cuss Pakistan out of hand over ethnic and ancient tribal grudges.

The data I gave is from an existing proven source, 2011 WORLD ALMANAC using UN, not US generated facts and figures.

Why waste your time with false details and lies?

This sort of pointless dialogue is typical of outsiders who are not there on the scene, for those on the scene are hopping mad at the terrorists and want them all stopped or killed off. I know and hear about the angry public reaction in the Pak local press, such as LAHORE TIMES and Peshawar FRONTIER POST.
 
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