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MYTHS ABOUT MILITARY SERVICE and QUALIFICATIONS
Myth-1:
Like all govt servants, Army officers/ Jawans also serve till the age of 60 years.
Reality: NOO.
In Pakistan Army, retirement is linked with rank service and not age. Normally an officer at the rank of Major retires at the age of 44 (plus/minus) after completing 23 years of rank service. Likewise all ranks including Generals retire at specified age for that particular rank. A Lt Gen normally retires before he turns 57.
Similarly, soldiers or Non Commissioned Officers or Junior Commissioned Officers also retire at different ages after specific service.
So, normally most of army persons retire when their children are school going and they are at the peak of their personal liabilities.
That is why most of army persons need a job after they retire.

Myth-2: No qualification is required for Army Officers for promotion/progress inside army. They retire as FA / FSc.

Reality: A big NOO.

Since Army inducts very young people who can undergo tough training hence students after FA / FSc are encouraged to apply.

Subsequently, all promotions in Army are linked with strict competitive exams and degrees. Those who are unable to qualify are superseded at different ranks.

Normally, to become a General, you either have done double masters or MPhil. Interestingly few serving Generals, Brigadiers and Colonels in Army at the moment are also PhD.

Army even encourages officers to qualify from abroad. Most of Pakistan Army Chiefs including Gen Asim Munir have had earned their Masters Degrees from abroad.

Myth-3: Only Army is allowed to have Fauji Foundation and no civil department can look after retired personnel.

Reality: NOO.

All govt departments do have foundations like Police Foundation, FBR Foundation, Punjab Govt Employees Foundation etc etc which look after their retired employees.

Fauji Foundation has transparent system of self sustainability which is key to its success.

Myth-4: Fauji Foundation and other fauji organisations do not hire civilians and are part of defence budget and don’t pay any tax.

Reality: NOOO.

Headed by a civilian as its MD (Mr Waqar), Fauji Foundation is a self sustaining organisation which has more numbers of civilian employees than retired military persons.

It has no linkage with Defence Budget, is self sustaining and is one of the highest tax payer.

The history of Fauji Foundation dates back to 1945, when a Post War Services Reconstruction Fund (PWSRF) was established for Indian War Veterans who served the British Crown during WW-II.

It is one clear example of welfare organisation which should be followed by others.
 
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You cannot within any extension of rhyme or reason expect people to buy this
BS of explanation.

Let me quote a brigadier saab @ dinner 3 3 days before ramzan.

Brig sahab : you have to learn how to rule, and make them work
ME : NO, it is lead , you have to be a leader

That my friend is a fine line,
Somewhere down the line , our Military establishment got more interested in ruling, than serving or leading.

and the reason is because this country ( western Pakistan ) came into existence for the feudal
lords. Our present civil service, and mil establishment are nothing short of feudal lords
in uniform.
 
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Myth-5: Only Army persons live in DHA and Askari Colonies

Reality: NOO.

97.8% of residents in all DHAs of Pakistan are civilians.

More than half of residents in Askari Colonies are civilians.

Due to excellent facilities, neat & safe environment for the families and especially when management ensures that NO QABZAA can be done, DHAs and Askaris become people’s preferred choice.

Myth-6: Anyone commissioned in Army is automatically promoted.

Reality: NOO.

Army has the most strict merit system for its promotion and progress.

Only a certain % in all ranks is promoted to the next rank based on performance whereas majority retires at junior ranks.

All ranks have to qualify different courses at all stages of service for promotion. It has also to be supported by ground performances being judged by superiors.

Each rank has to prove his mettle in hard areas before promotion.

Myth-7: Only people from specific rich backgrounds, religions and selected areas of Punjab can join Army and are given promotion.

Reality: NOO.

It is a national army which jealously guards its identity as such.

The only institution in Pakistan that has representation from all districts of Pakistan from all provinces and which allows all ranks to serve in any part of the country irrespective of their background.

Anyone from any background and religion can rise to any rank in Army basing on his performance.

Competence is only criteria which is followed from induction to promotion till retirement.

Recently, Sword of Honour at PMA was won by son of mason from Gilgit. Likewise, Gen Kayani who rose to the rank of Army Chief was from a poor background.

To name a few among 4 stars officers, Gen Kakar, Gen Musa and Gen Ehsan hailed from KP, Gen Mushrraf and Gen Yousaf from Sindh and Gen Aziz was from AJ & K.

Likewise, even at present, officers on different ranks including Generals from all provinces are serving in Army.
 
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asif
@aj_raja


MYTHS ABOUT MILITARY SERVICE and QUALIFICATIONS
Myth-1:

Like all govt servants, Army officers/ Jawans also serve till the age of 60 years.
Reality: NOO.
In Pakistan Army, retirement is linked with rank service and not age. Normally an officer at the rank of Major retires at the age of 44 (plus/minus) after completing 23 years of rank service. Likewise all ranks including Generals retire at specified age for that particular rank. A Lt Gen normally retires before he turns 57.
Similarly, soldiers or Non Commissioned Officers or Junior Commissioned Officers also retire at different ages after specific service.
So, normally most of army persons retire when their children are school going and they are at the peak of their personal liabilities.
That is why most of army persons need a job after they retire.

Myth-2: No qualification is required for Army Officers for promotion/progress inside army. They retire as FA / FSc.

Reality: A big NOO.

Since Army inducts very young people who can undergo tough training hence students after FA / FSc are encouraged to apply.

Subsequently, all promotions in Army are linked with strict competitive exams and degrees. Those who are unable to qualify are superseded at different ranks.

Normally, to become a General, you either have done double masters or MPhil. Interestingly few serving Generals, Brigadiers and Colonels in Army at the moment are also PhD.

Army even encourages officers to qualify from abroad. Most of Pakistan Army Chiefs including Gen Asim Munir have had earned their Masters Degrees from abroad.

Myth-3: Only Army is allowed to have Fauji Foundation and no civil department can look after retired personnel.

Reality: NOO.

All govt departments do have foundations like Police Foundation, FBR Foundation, Punjab Govt Employees Foundation etc etc which look after their retired employees.

Fauji Foundation has transparent system of self sustainability which is key to its success.

Myth-4: Fauji Foundation and other fauji organisations do not hire civilians and are part of defence budget and don’t pay any tax.

Reality: NOOO.

Headed by a civilian as its MD (Mr Waqar), Fauji Foundation is a self sustaining organisation which has more numbers of civilian employees than retired military persons.

It has no linkage with Defence Budget, is self sustaining and is one of the highest tax payer.

The history of Fauji Foundation dates back to 1945, when a Post War Services Reconstruction Fund (PWSRF) was established for Indian War Veterans who served the British Crown during WW-II.

It is one clear example of welfare organisation which should be followed by others.
I have cleared up some of them already.
 
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Myth # 1 - Pakistani Generals have to be loyal to the country.
Reality -
lmao to the bank with all the haramkhor money

Myth # 2 - Pakistan army is a well disciplined army.
Reality - corrupt generals at the top and lower ranks waiting for their turn to f the country

Myth # 3 - Pakistan army is neutral
Reality - They will bankrupt the country to ensure their corruption and hold over the country remains

Myth # 4 - children of Pakistan army generals think they are superior after receiving foreign education
Reality- they are nothing but Faujeets

Myth # 4 - Pakistan ISI is one of the best intelligence agencies in the world
Reality - They run one of the biggest **** industry and are actively busy recruiting men with large pen15 for Pakistani generals

Myth # 5 - Pakistani generals think they are untouchable
Reality - Soon they will be dragged on the streets of Pakistan
 
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The educational degrees (M.Phil/PhD) acquired by senior Military officers barely meet the educational benchmarks. In most cases, thesis are written by paid scholars (or even students) and research articles are also usually published using power of shoulders. Many military officers, after retirement, have educational qualifications that do not meet the criteria of HEC. Yet, they "manage" to complete their PhDs and earn jobs without meeting any merit requirement.
 
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Do the military’s educational degrees qualify to HEC standards?
 
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