Myanmar violates Bangladesh airspace again; Dhaka protests

[Homo Sapiens]

Very insightful. You might have seen the last Rambo movie, which was about precisely this persecution of the Karen (in the movie). The Christian missionary theme was also present, if you have seen it.

In my gypsy wanderings, I worked for the Murugappas; the group started with the three brothers, AMM Murugappan, AMM Vellayan and AMM Arunachalam. Vellayan was killed in Burma in 1945; the Burmese have a long history of murdering Hindus and Muslims alike.

On a completely different note, I feel so much more at peace with myself now that Indian aid has started flowing into Bangladesh for the Rohingyas. I was there when the refugees came over in 71, and those pictures floated up in my nightmares the last few nights.

Thank you.Almost all of the problem facing this world now emanated from greed and tribalism.These two reinforce each other.Religious extremism/chauvinism is one kind of tribalism, greedy to protect own group's special privilege even if that means hurting the others.If there is no religion to divide people than that tribalistic impulse will find some other excuse like race, nationality, sect,language etc to claim special rights for his group.These special rights include special territory which he claim exclusively for his group.People are very tribalistic by nature.It's origin lies in scarcity in primordial times when man had to fight ruthlessly to gain meager resource for his clan.This primordial impulse is very difficult to remove.Even many educated people are full in it.A much higher degree of enlightenment is needed in society to defeat it.One way to gain this enlightenment is exposure.Tribalism thrives in isolation.In an isolated condition, fear of unknown gain hold, fear let to hate.Hate let to atrocity.One of the reason European people became much more accepting the difference is to the fact that they travels a lot and comes in contact with different group of people frequently.It is now much more difficult to instigate the European union people to fight for religion, race or nationality.That's why international co-operation in very necessary to break the barriers.Once people meet freely with each other without any over imposing border, all these tribalistic impulse, race, religion, ethnicity, nationality will fall apart and people will truly become global citizen.One body,one spirit.

 

[Nilgiri]

it happened in Sri Lanka around the 40s of the last century, and accelerated to the point where they would have got rid of the original Lankan Tamils, the Jaffna Tamils.

Would have got rid of the original Lankan Tamils? There was a move to impose one language on the whole country and have reservation based policy in the govt/civil sector to help Sinhalese compared to situation inherited from British Raj, and fight Tamil autonomy/nationalist currents that spawned (modern nation state wise) in SL since the early 20th century...and yes a lot did get overblown on both sides....but I am unaware of any large popular intention/backing of "ridding" all the original Lankan Tamils (Jaffna, Batticalao and Trinicomalali)....esp on any religious basis.

It was largely political....that later did take some cultural and religious hues (as it almost inevitably would anywhere with the degree of the conflict) in various ways but it always remained rooted in a political conflict (and hence why the island is quite peaceful after the LTTE were defeated and bilingual state + various local autonomy got enshrined, i.e all factors that caused the conflict in the first place). Colombo had a majority Tamil population during height of the SL civil war....and many places of worship were both Buddhist/Hindu even during worst of the so called religious/cultural oriented violence (which had a extremist Church angle to it on the LTTE side). Maybe @Gibbs @HeinzG can add/correct to this if they want.

It is very different to Rohingya crisis in that matter. I simply do not see much fundamentally connecting and integrating the Rohingya and Local Rakhine Burmese other than by peculiar traverse of history they are living in the same spot of land. Thus a perceived partition legacy more easily arises.

 

[Trango Towers]

How irresponsible of them!

Oh, before I forget, what would you have written if it had NOT protested?

Joe you are Burma's hooker

 

[Saradiel]

I once read a article over, how Buddist in Sri lanka did not even Spare Hindu's in Sri lanka .. when they go on to full killing spree ..

Do not talk about issues, you have ZERO knowledge of.
There are millions of Hindus and they are increasing each day. Hindus, Hindu temples are protected and flourish in Sri Lanka. What we had was a terrorist and a separatist war which killed lakhs of people and two heads of states which was listed as the most brutal terrorist org by FBI.

SL has maintained religious coexistence to an amazing standard even living with a separatist terrorist problem for 30 years. You can see even Pakistani refugees come to SL seeking asylum.
http://www.ceylontoday.lk/print20170401CT20170630.php?id=20565

Little knowledge is useless buddy. You need to get more educated on it

No, they didn't spare Hindus. There the fight was a combination of religious and ethnic; it was Sinhala vs. Tamil, the Sinhala wholly Buddist, the Tamils partly Christian (Pirabakaran for instance), partly Hindu. It was natural for them, given their virulent hatred, to murder Tamils irrespective of their religion. They have 0 soft corner for Hindus; it is our crazy-in-the-head bhakts who make a song and dance about 'Indic' religions and their affinity. Soft in the head addled intellects.

If you watch news in your own country you will know by now, Southern states and TN in particular were crazily against Hindi language last days. The Tamils specifically suffer from an ultra linguistic nationalism. It can be compared to Hitler's Nazism. Sri Lanka suffered a result of Tamil linguistic nationalism. There is a lot of history in SL issue and do not talk about things you have half knowledge or no knowledge at all.

The Hindus or Christian Tamils could lead a normal life only in areas ruled by the government of SL.

idk, i've heard from srilankan friends of mine how tamil tigers cut open womb of pregnant mothers and decapitated the foetus.... their family had suffered in those instances too.... and since i'm not very much aware of this topic... i've heard that tamils are to blame for what happened in sri lanka and india has provided them with arms.... and that UN forces found indian arms or so....

Yes LTTE killed people without even considering their age or gender. Little kids were dashed onto tree trunks and were killed. SL went through that for 30 years and we took action against it like any responsible government should do. In fact SL showed more patience unnecessarily. It is THAT LEGAL action taken by a LEGAL government which is called as a Buddhist Nationalism/Extremism by these Indian LTTE supporters.
This is what their LTTE did

The problem with countries like Myanmar and to some extent Sri Lanka is that, they have very much politicized/ nationalized Buddhism.This is much like political Islam, or political Christianity in medieval Europe, they have created a political Buddhism.You could have said, Myanmar Buddhist are just having a legitimate concern about Muslim threat, they are nice with all other religion.But this is not the case.They are persecuting Christian as well.Karen and Chin people are facing a lot of hardship due to their Christian faith.Same with Hindus, despite living many generations, many Hindus in Burma are still stateless, not to mention the mass expulsion of Hindus to India in 1960s.They have amalgamated Buddhism, extreme Burmese nationalism and patriotism into one mold.Power corrupt, even a religion like Buddhism.

There is nothing called political Buddhism. But SL has been a traditionally Buddhist country and gives it that recognition. There is NO Buddhism based legal structure in SL. SL constitution is secular. The only place it has violated secular principles in constitution was allowing some of the Islamic rules for Muslims.

What SL had was an ethnic issue based on linguistic nationalism, religion hardly played any role here. And there are not anybody who are stateless in SL.

There was a move to impose one language on the whole country and have reservation based policy in the govt/civil sector to help Sinhalese compared to situation inherited from British Raj,

What we had was Sinhala was made official langauge and Tamil only a regional langauge. But now it is different and both are official languages. Currently the government has to issue every gazzette and every doc in all three langauges ( Sinhala, Tamil and Eng) which is very costly

 

[Homo Sapiens]

Myanmar is trying to provoke BD. Lets not fall for it.

True.There is a huge condemnation and pressure on myanmar to stop this atrocity and myanmar is desperate to shift the attention of the world.So they are trying to create a clash with Bangladesh,so that they can push the last remaining Rohingya as the fifth columnist and shift the discussion on refugee to BD-Myanmar problem.But we could have claimed of 'maturity' if we had proper air defence in that region but still hold our gun.I am not sure whether it is the case in the border.

 

[Joe Shearer]

Excellent analysis sir!
Thanks for this post.

You're welcome.

Do not talk about issues, you have ZERO knowledge of.
There are millions of Hindus and they are increasing each day. Hindus, Hindu temples are protected and flourish in Sri Lanka. What we had was a terrorist and a separatist war which killed lakhs of people and two heads of states which was listed as the most brutal terrorist org by FBI.

SL has maintained religious coexistence to an amazing standard even living with a separatist terrorist problem for 30 years. You can see even Pakistani refugees come to SL seeking asylum.
http://www.ceylontoday.lk/print20170401CT20170630.php?id=20565

Little knowledge is useless buddy. You need to get more educated on it


If you watch news in your own country you will know by now, Southern states and TN in particular were crazily against Hindi language last days. The Tamils specifically suffer from an ultra linguistic nationalism. It can be compared to Hitler's Nazism. Sri Lanka suffered a result of Tamil linguistic nationalism. There is a lot of history in SL issue and do not talk about things you have half knowledge or no knowledge at all.

The Hindus or Christian Tamils could lead a normal life only in areas ruled by the government of SL.


Yes LTTE killed people without even considering their age or gender. Little kids were dashed onto tree trunks and were killed. SL went through that for 30 years and we took action against it like any responsible government should do. In fact SL showed more patience unnecessarily. It is THAT LEGAL action taken by a LEGAL government which is called as a Buddhist Nationalism/Extremism by these Indian LTTE supporters.
This is what their LTTE did

And if it was Buddhist Nationalism, ask these Indian LTTE supporter what the LTTE was doing inside mosques hacking people to death!
kattankudy mosque massacre

There is nothing called political Buddhism. But SL has been a traditionally Buddhist country and gives it that recognition. There is NO Buddhism based legal structure in SL. SL constitution is secular. The only place it has violated secular principles in constitution was allowing some of the Islamic rules for Muslims.

What SL had was an ethnic issue based on linguistic nationalism, religion hardly played any role here. And there are not anybody who are stateless in SL.


What we had was Sinhala was made official langauge and Tamil only a regional langauge. But now it is different and both are official languages. Currently the government has to issue every gazzette and every doc in all three langauges ( Sinhala, Tamil and Eng) which is very costly

@Starlord

And here you have it: the authentic voice, complete with atrocity pictures justifying the mass-scale murdering and genocide, ending with the shelling of the beach.

Out of its 8 Jet BD should put 3 jets on Indian border, 3 jet on MM border and 2 jets stationed on a boat as Naval fighters.Air fighters and Naval fighters should attack MM from both sides and humiliate them.If BD follow this formation then it will be MM which will be protesting.

Please could you educate yourself on fundamentals before posting? Some of these are serious discussions.

Joe you are Burma's hooker

Don't show yourself up earlier than you need to.

 

[Trango Towers]

You're welcome.



@Starlord

And here you have it: the authentic voice, complete with atrocity pictures justifying the mass-scale murdering and genocide, ending with the shelling of the beach.



Please could you educate yourself on fundamentals before posting? Some of these are serious discussions.



Don't show yourself up earlier than you need to.

Joe sit down and have a nice cool cow cola.

Do not talk about issues, you have ZERO knowledge of.
There are millions of Hindus and they are increasing each day. Hindus, Hindu temples are protected and flourish in Sri Lanka. What we had was a terrorist and a separatist war which killed lakhs of people and two heads of states which was listed as the most brutal terrorist org by FBI.

SL has maintained religious coexistence to an amazing standard even living with a separatist terrorist problem for 30 years. You can see even Pakistani refugees come to SL seeking asylum.
http://www.ceylontoday.lk/print20170401CT20170630.php?id=20565

Little knowledge is useless buddy. You need to get more educated on it


If you watch news in your own country you will know by now, Southern states and TN in particular were crazily against Hindi language last days. The Tamils specifically suffer from an ultra linguistic nationalism. It can be compared to Hitler's Nazism. Sri Lanka suffered a result of Tamil linguistic nationalism. There is a lot of history in SL issue and do not talk about things you have half knowledge or no knowledge at all.

The Hindus or Christian Tamils could lead a normal life only in areas ruled by the government of SL.


Yes LTTE killed people without even considering their age or gender. Little kids were dashed onto tree trunks and were killed. SL went through that for 30 years and we took action against it like any responsible government should do. In fact SL showed more patience unnecessarily. It is THAT LEGAL action taken by a LEGAL government which is called as a Buddhist Nationalism/Extremism by these Indian LTTE supporters.
This is what their LTTE did

And if it was Buddhist Nationalism, ask these Indian LTTE supporter what the LTTE was doing inside mosques hacking people to death!
kattankudy mosque massacre

There is nothing called political Buddhism. But SL has been a traditionally Buddhist country and gives it that recognition. There is NO Buddhism based legal structure in SL. SL constitution is secular. The only place it has violated secular principles in constitution was allowing some of the Islamic rules for Muslims.

What SL had was an ethnic issue based on linguistic nationalism, religion hardly played any role here. And there are not anybody who are stateless in SL.


What we had was Sinhala was made official langauge and Tamil only a regional langauge. But now it is different and both are official languages. Currently the government has to issue every gazzette and every doc in all three langauges ( Sinhala, Tamil and Eng) which is very costly

India supports the killing of children. Yes they are terrorists

 

[YeBeWarned]

Do not talk about issues, you have ZERO knowledge of.
There are millions of Hindus and they are increasing each day. Hindus, Hindu temples are protected and flourish in Sri Lanka. What we had was a terrorist and a separatist war which killed lakhs of people and two heads of states which was listed as the most brutal terrorist org by FBI.

SL has maintained religious coexistence to an amazing standard even living with a separatist terrorist problem for 30 years. You can see even Pakistani refugees come to SL seeking asylum.
http://www.ceylontoday.lk/print20170401CT20170630.php?id=20565

Little knowledge is useless buddy. You need to get more educated on it

you nee to take chill pill man, no one is talking about the topic, just sharing what i once read long ago, i don't even recall much of that article .. take a cold water shower and have some tea

And here you have it: the authentic voice, complete with atrocity pictures justifying the mass-scale murdering and genocide, ending with the shelling of the beach.

i am out of here @Joe Shearer people are getting emotional ..

 

[Śakra]

idk, i've heard from Burmese friends of mine how rohingya cut open womb of pregnant mothers and decapitated the foetus.... their family had suffered in those instances too.... and since i'm not very much aware of this topic... i've heard that rohingya are to blame for what happened in Burma and bngdsh has provided them with arms.... and that UN forces found bngldsh arms or so....

How does it sound now?

 

[Joe Shearer]

Joe sit down and have a nice cool cow cola.


India supports the killing of children. Yes they are terrorists

Thank you. Care to join me? Or do you want to stay specialised in the other end-product?

you nee to take chill pill man, no one is talking about the topic, just sharing what i once read long ago, i don't even recall much of that article .. take a cold water shower and have some tea



i am out of here @Joe Shearer people are getting emotional ..

Egged on by vocationally dedicated anti-Bangladesh Indian members. You're right; this thread is getting crowded.

Joe you are Burma's hooker

When I need a pimp, I'll get in touch with you.

 

[Nilgiri]

What we had was Sinhala was made official langauge and Tamil only a regional langauge. But now it is different and both are official languages. Currently the government has to issue every gazzette and every doc in all three langauges ( Sinhala, Tamil and Eng) which is very costly

Honestly I am fine with it (regional or national language status for Tamil as long as some status for its use, definitely did not need rigid violent response to it in end)....Jaffna Tamils were quite stubborn and haughty instead of putting SL as nation first. There is blame on both sides and it was very stupid and sad what ended up happening....given the buddhist-hindu links that both you and I know how manifest deeply on ground in SL....in very specific indigenous Lankan way I must add.

Do pay attention to these rohingya threads, they are often dragging SL/sinhalese in all kinds of places as fellow buddhist terrorists or whatever in comparing to burmese as some precedent....all kind of misinformation and lieing happening. Keep in mind when the fake love comes to SL from these quarters in other instances.

I am just thankful now SL has peace and can accelerate its development.

BTW the rules of this forum ask that we should not post graphic pictures, you may want to remove them. I am sure everyone knows what LTTE did atrociously, esp to stoke it as religious war when political based war was losing momentum.

If they dont easy google search will show them. LTTE was the most vile disgusting thing ever to have spawned connected to Tamils (and sobering reminder of what foreign religious extremist input can do in hijacking and expanding such gross terror), the memories from that nightmare will not go away for some time....but at least we must be thankful it has ended.

 

[Michael Corleone]

How does it sound now?

It's not the Burmese who are being killed and raped mercilessly because of their ethnic background and religion... it's the rohynga population. Live in denial as long as you like... the truth can't be whitewashed.

 

[Trango Towers]

Thank you. Care to join me? Or do you want to stay specialised in the other end-product?



Egged on by vocationally dedicated anti-Bangladesh Indian members. You're right; this thread is getting crowded.



When I need a pimp, I'll get in touch with you.

Nope we just want to pour urine done your throat. Tell me do you brush your teeth afterwards or not

Thank you. Care to join me? Or do you want to stay specialised in the other end-product?



Egged on by vocationally dedicated anti-Bangladesh Indian members. You're right; this thread is getting crowded.



When I need a pimp, I'll get in touch with you.

Ugly hookers don't have pimps.

 

[Bilal9]

Out of its 8 Jet BD should put 3 jets on Indian border, 3 jet on MM border and 2 jets stationed on a boat as Naval fighters.Air fighters and Naval fighters should attack MM from both sides and humiliate them.If BD follow this formation then it will be MM which will be protesting.

I'm guessing you play with toy airplanes?

 

[Imran Khan]

I'm guessing you play with toy airplanes?

We are waiting for action