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my personal 2cent views abut air raid of IAF

dear sorry but i have right to ask you what is your age now . again my apology i want to know because then i can guess how far behind in history we can talk.:D


another point why PAKISTANI FORCES - ISI supporting these groups when they can not defend them or own self ? its high time paksitan should stop proxy war for sake of saving remaining pride of nation . otherwise it will be routine we will humiliated

Because they want revenge for 1971. Some of the ruling elite and army generals would have been alive when that transpired or must have grown up during that phase

Just as Kargil was done for Siachen Kashmir insurgency is being done for Bangladesh. Also for water security and resources. 89% already flowed to you. But now it will be exact 80% as per treaty in a few years which will even make relations worse.

Any India Pakistan war over Kashmir will always end in a nuclear stalemate or MAD. And conventionally none can invade each other or control each other's crazy populations.

Pakistani people should realise this and take control of their government and armed forces themselves.
 
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dear friends life is so beautiful and worth to enjoy it . luckily yesterday i have to travel for a seminar today morning when i wake up in hotel news of IAF raid was waiting . but in hassle we have breakfast in lobby and then seminar begins it was very busy day still i mange to post some posts from my mobile . evening i have return flight and then finally i back home tired . but it worth to say something . all in all this seminar saved me from hell of trolling here .:partay:

i will start from quote of my favorite philosopher LAO TZU :-)
(i am not hopeless as i have no hope from beginning - lao )

since pulwama attack a 5 years old kid know that there will be no war but india will try to do something like last time hit and run or just bomb and run . congs to them they have achieved the goal . mr modi is winner all the way and indian armed forces restored the faith of their public in them as always .there was not a plan of war from day one by india it was target even some 2 km inside paksitan and india did it

on other hand those whom said a bird can not fly on LOC are still bashing on media . DGISPR giving lame excuses .
1- they show us left hand and slap us from right hand (so they have to inform you war plan ?stupid )

2- no death or property damaged bombs fall on empty land (so anyone can bomb us on empty land and as long as no one die national sovereignty can be compromised ? stupid again mr its not about loss its they crossed border is more important )


3- we will retaliate (i still remember how you guys retaliate when indians shot down our atlantic killed 16 men or when you guys retaliate osama raid or your retaliate of many nato US attacks on pakistan )

here i another factor mighty PAF . since first drone attack in 2004 killed naik mohmmad i start losing trust on them and then day by day attack after attack they have failed and failed and failed always .next 5 years until 2010 i have lost full faith in them . i have no hope from the Pakistani forces that is why i never been angry sad dissipated or feel bad now . i am enjoying my life as always . this force it totally living in some other world . nato forces were keep killing dozens of Pakistani solders on salala for over two hours . osama raid took place some 3 hours and drones keep flying 1000s of hours but this mighty force never reacted .

another hands indians already win the situation and there is no Pakistani voice on indian media all stories are as per plan and indian media convoy the massage to indian public already no one can reverse it only if PAF shot down one of them or at least fight with them then they can save face but they lost as always .they have very good chance to hot pursuit fire some missile drop some bombs on indian side at that sortie . what they did nothing nil 0.000 . that was the time which they were chest thumping since last 15 days but its missed again as always .:wave: that sortie was worth million dollars which lost doing nothing .

last dear fan boys where was your long range AWACS last night again ? the mighty saab whom can see as soon as indian aircraft took off from base ? where was radars liek tps -77 with 350km range ?where was long range SAM batteries ? no one even dare to use SPADA CROTALE LY-80 last night all these toys are for parade . don't you guys claim PAF can shot down indian fighters inside india ? while here we see you can not shot them even if they fly inside paksitan .let me remember when last time PAF shot down an indian fighter jet ? 50 years ago ? may be

now what even if PAF try to drop some bombs or paksitan army try to fire some rockets it will not be big news it will be as always .

Pakistani forces as a whole failed again because modi goal was not was he was looking for hit and run and he did it already .while Pakistanis job was not to give him chance they failed so . other question is where was PAF on LOC while we all know LOC is hot border . it not should PAF have radar info of IAF jets coming toward Pakistan some 15 minutes before they cross border ? sure IAF did not took off from border but far behind somewhere from an air base .

and last please try to drop some pay load at Indian side of border and we will see . hit the target or not indians have guts to cross LOC while you guys can not . at least show us might as much as indians showed . or make another song on PAF flying jets dropping bombs and playing gittar in front of fighters as always .
if Pakistani forces can not defend own borders why they create such proxies ? its high time they stop creating supporting Kashmirs fight or else we will loss our little remaining pride as a nation too . we have been enough humiliated by such proxies .
now you guys will keep fighting PAF fans will keep massive threads opening and all bla bla bla nothing will come out . while i will keep enjoying it [emoji38]
This is a harsh truth. But I am not giving up .
 
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dear friends life is so beautiful and worth to enjoy it . luckily yesterday i have to travel for a seminar today morning when i wake up in hotel news of IAF raid was waiting . but in hassle we have breakfast in lobby and then seminar begins it was very busy day still i mange to post some posts from my mobile . evening i have return flight and then finally i back home tired . but it worth to say something . all in all this seminar saved me from hell of trolling here .:partay:

i will start from quote of my favorite philosopher LAU TZU :-)
(i am not hopeless as i have no hope from beginning - lao )

since pulwama attack a 5 years old kid know that there will be no war but india will try to do something like last time hit and run or just bomb and run . congs to them they have achieved the goal . mr modi is winner all the way and indian armed forces restored the faith of their public in them as always .there was not a plan of war from day one by india it was target even some 2 km inside paksitan and india did it

on other hand those whom said a bird can not fly on LOC are still bashing on media . DGISPR giving lame excuses .
1- they show us left hand and slap us from right hand (so they have to inform you war plan ?stupid )

2- no death or property damaged bombs fall on empty land (so anyone can bomb us on empty land and as long as no one die national sovereignty can be compromised ? stupid again mr its not about loss its they crossed border is more important )


3- we will retaliate (i still remember how you guys retaliate when indians shot down our atlantic killed 16 men or when you guys retaliate osama raid or your retaliate of many nato US attacks on pakistan )

here i another factor mighty PAF . since first drone attack in 2004 killed naik mohmmad i start losing trust on them and then day by day attack after attack they have failed and failed and failed always .next 5 years until 2010 i have lost full faith in them . i have no hope from the Pakistani forces that is why i never been angry sad dissipated or feel bad now . i am enjoying my life as always . this force it totally living in some other world . nato forces were keep killing dozens of Pakistani solders on salala for over two hours . osama raid took place some 3 hours and drones keep flying 1000s of hours but this mighty force never reacted .

another hands indians already win the situation and there is no Pakistani voice on indian media all stories are as per plan and indian media convoy the massage to indian public already no one can reverse it only if PAF shot down one of them or at least fight with them then they can save face but they lost as always .they have very good chance to hot pursuit fire some missile drop some bombs on indian side at that sortie . what they did nothing nil 0.000 . that was the time which they were chest thumping since last 15 days but its missed again as always .:wave: that sortie was worth million dollars which lost doing nothing .

last dear fan boys where was your long range AWACS last night again ? the mighty saab whom can see as soon as indian aircraft took off from base ? where was radars liek tps -77 with 350km range ?where was long range SAM batteries ? no one even dare to use SPADA CROTALE LY-80 last night all these toys are for parade . don't you guys claim PAF can shot down indian fighters inside india ? while here we see you can not shot them even if they fly inside paksitan .let me remember when last time PAF shot down an indian fighter jet ? 50 years ago ? may be

now what even if PAF try to drop some bombs or paksitan army try to fire some rockets it will not be big news it will be as always .

Pakistani forces as a whole failed again because modi goal was not was he was looking for hit and run and he did it already .while Pakistanis job was not to give him chance they failed so . other question is where was PAF on LOC while we all know LOC is hot border . it not should PAF have radar info of IAF jets coming toward Pakistan some 15 minutes before they cross border ? sure IAF did not took off from border but far behind somewhere from an air base .

and last please try to drop some pay load at Indian side of border and we will see . hit the target or not indians have guts to cross LOC while you guys can not . at least show us might as much as indians showed . or make another song on PAF flying jets dropping bombs and playing gittar in front of fighters as always .

now you guys will keep fighting PAF fans will keep massive threads opening and all bla bla bla nothing will come out . while i will keep enjoying it [emoji38]
Then y r we raising such a huge force or forces?
If u r saying something full of depression then should v also b depressed about the hands v r into? Then shouldn't v just present us into plate to India? Then should v think that The Ghazwa Hind which propagandist of forces background propagate about is not 4 us?
Should v think v r the useless country wd useless forces for useless masses?

I was depressed since this happened but reading this from u i m much more depressed...
Let the Ghafoor sb brag n v should pray..
 
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Because they want revenge for 1971. Some of the ruling elite and army generals would have been alive when that transpired or must have grown up during that phase

Just as Kargil was done for Siachen Kashmir insurgency is being done for Bangladesh. Also for water security and resources. 89% already flowed to you. But now it will be exact 80% as per treaty in a few years which will even make relations worse.

Any India Pakistan war over Kashmir will always end in a nuclear stalemate or MAD. And conventionally none can invade each other or control each other's crazy populations.

Pakistani people should realise this and take control of their government and armed forces themselves.
bro no one is saint here but i feel if pakistanis are losing then do some damage control and give up this mess . its not worth man .but you can not blame only pakistani eleite and military for all this . somehow your country have own shear in mess .
 
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Totally agree. I only wish there was an equivalent voice of sanity on our side (I can't match him, sorry).

Aap ne chhaa diya, Chacha.

I'm sure, after today's press briefing by ISPR, all of India has become mature.
I don't expect any more misadventure from your army, starting from now.
Remember how military experts from US, Israel and UK came to advise you on how to build better bunkers in Kargil /Kashmir, yet they all failed to gauge Pakistan, otherwise they had warned you.
Now your situation is that of a man in a fix with Lion... your choices are limited to the choices of the Lion.
 
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how they come back empty hands when inian fighter returned back ? should not they fire on them even if they were going back ?if indians don't care border then why paf did ?
Ask yourself this question. When have PAF or the Navy taken any combat losses? I don't mean using Jdams from 4 miles high against a TTP fighter with a pistol? Or the navy chasing some Somali pirates rowing a wooden boat? I mean fighting against a aggressor who can hurt? Probably more then 50 years ago.

Instead they have over the decades become military versions of PIA. Just rackets to easy money, positions, some property investments and jobs either in PIA or ports or shipping after retirement. You can measure the state they are in when TTP managed to ingress into PAF base and destroy parked aircraft. If they can't fcukin protect the airbases and their own aircraft from some punks you expect to defend the countries air borders?

The army with respect is differant. They live on the LOC everyday. They lose men everyday. They have fought in FATA and lost huge number of men. So the army has been bloodied. Officers and men have spilled blood. I have no doubt that the army would fight hard against Indian aggression. This is not a "show shaw" outfit. But the real thing ...
 
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their goal is achieved just watch indian media . our mission was to failed them but we failed .abut target hit or not tree damaged or camp was not intention of modi too . are they stupid that a single air raid will finish jaish or LET ? no they also know it its not worth it was matter of national pride for india .

Any educated or aware public would immediately begin to question their government

But in south asia were idiots, were idiots who live for tamasha with a media who love to feed us copious amounts of tamasha

We are back to square 1
Indiana lose 60 including officers after making a hole range of dumb mistakes
But they have their drama for the public which we now have to counter

It just becomes bleahh!!!


Bottom line is this OK the indians are clowns who in the absence of actual balls and ability will try stunts for public consumption but why were they even allowed to get away with this B.S


There is NO POINT in Pakistan hitting back
The Indians purposely didn't target Pakistani military because they didnt want to instigate war and we are now in the same position but we have no targets
 
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Ask yourself this question. When have PAF or the Navy taken any combat losses? I don't mean using Jdams from 4 miles high against a TTP fighter with a pistol? Or the navy chasing some Somali pirates rowing a wooden boat? I mean fighting against a aggressor who can hurt? Probably more then 50 years ago.

Instead they have over the decades become military versions of PIA. Just rackets to easy money, positions, some property investments and jobs either in PIA or ports or shipping after retirement. You can measure the state they are in when TTP managed to ingress into PAF base and destroy parked aircraft. If they can't fcukin protect the airbases and their own aircraft from some punks you expect to defend the countries air borders?

The army with respect is differant. They live on the LOC everyday. They lose men everyday. They have fought in FATA and lost huge number of men. So the army has been bloodied. Officers and men have spilled blood. I have no doubt that the army would fight hard against Indian aggression. This is not a "show shaw" outfit. But the real thing ...
what army can do in modern war without air cover ? where was air cover on salala attack night ? no where
 
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why the mirages weren't shot at ?
violation of each others airspace is nothing out of the ordinary both sides occasionally do it to check out each others preparedness
as far as i remembers between 2007-10 we voilated indian airspace over 20 times
 
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Who says they havent retaliated or wont retaliate

This month indians have been running from pillar to post like a tit in a trance making major mistakes and losing soldiers and officers like they were nothing, is our part in that retaliation

Lets not over play or underplay both ate stupid

And yet they reached near Balakot and went back safely. What next? They reach Islamabad and bomb Margala? and still our forces will keep on ranting: No causality reported, we will retaliate. They can't even take down an enemy aircraft when they were said to be on high alert.
 
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Imran bhai....class to aap Indians ki lete the....aaj PAF ki kyun le li. Purane din yaad aa gaye. :dance3:
bhai hum class leny main liberal hain . as judges . jis ki bari ayee le li apun to azad panchi hai yaar :lol: BTW why you guys drop bombs some very close from my farm house . i was just 300km away you stupids think about my safety :sick:
 
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The indians did nothing but bomb a field BUT it was OUR field
Bingo. That was the best exposition of what has happened. We know it was nothing. But it was our field. And that gives the ground for lot of Bollywood dramabazi. If PAF had just shot one aircraft or even thrown one bomb in a Indian field all this would have clamped.

But .....
 
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Any educated or aware public would immediately begin to question their government

But in south asia were idiots, were idiots who live for tamasha with a media who love to feed us copious amounts of tamasha

We are back to square 1
Indiana lose 60 including officers after making a hole range of dumb mistakes
But they have their drama for the public which we now have to counter

It just becomes bleahh!!!


Bottom line is this OK the indians are clowns who in the absence of actual balls and ability will try stunts for public consumption but why were they even allowed to get away with this B.S


There is NO POINT in Pakistan hitting back
The Indians purposely didn't target Pakistani military because they didnt want to instigate war and we are now in the same position but we have no targets
wow so they voilate our national sovergnty is not worth to fight ? bhai ye to wohi baat ho gai
izzat bech ker gold liya tha kisi aurat ne .daku zever loot gay or logoon ne tassali di shuker hai izzat bach gai daku sirf gold le gay :lol:
 
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