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My Dear Fellow Hindus, Why Have You Lost Your True Religion?

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A wave of intolerance has swept through the land, threatening to submerge free-thinkers and cultural and religious minorities. A fever of hate has gripped the country.

For lovers of the land, for lovers of all humanity, this is painful to behold, immensely painful. And, when the refrains of hate are taken up not just by drunken goons in the pay of low-level politicians keen to exploit any difference, but by people from the educated and well-placed Hindu middle-class -- the community I hail from -- the pain I feel is monumental. I weep at their ignorance, I weep at their lack of critical thinking, their mindless parroting of others' sophistry, and above all, I weep at the hate that stands revealed in their hearts.

"My community members, educated and privileged as you are, why do some of you fall prey to the cheapest of sophistry?"

Members of my community, let me try to disabuse you of your prejudices. You should know that Muslims are human beings like you and me, wishing to live in harmony and to get on with their lives. They are not to be feared. As is true for Christians. And -- it is important this be said since I know that some of you harbour prejudices towards others of your own religion as well -- as is true for other Hindus lower down on the social structure than you.

You should know that the West is not poisoning our values, not corrupting our sons and daughters. You should know that our land has absorbed thousands of "conquests" before, by people, by ideas, by faiths, and has emerged only stronger. That this land has a particular genius for absorbing people, ideas, and faiths and making them its own. And that the root of this genius lies not in the external, practiced aspects of Hinduism, which are after all only aspects of culture, but in the underlying philosophy of non-duality emerging from the Vedas.

Aham brahmasmi.I am theBrahman,the one unity that underlies all creation, indeed, of which all creation is just a manifestation, justleela,play. In this philosophy, there is no separate you and I, there is no duality. All is one. There is no Hindu, no Muslim, no Christian. No Brahmin, no Shudra. No Outsider, no Insider. No Them, no Us. It is this philosophy of rejecting differences, of seeing oneself in the other, that undergirds the lives of those that live in this land and represents the genius of India.

My community members, educated and privileged as you are, why do some of you fall prey to the cheapest of sophistry? "They fly Pakistan flags in theirbastisand at cricket matches!" How many Pakistani flags have you actually seen? One, two, most likely none at all? What makes you leap to the conclusion that the entire Muslim community must be waving Pakistani flags? Can't you see that this is just a red herring put out by those trying to divide society for their own nefarious purposes, tempting you into intellectual fallacies with false symbols (the flag) of that "refuge of the scoundrel" (patriotism)?

"Realise that the apparently different Other is just yourself, justBrahman.You have the choice to love or to hate. Choose to love. Love is the highest ideal."

Why do some of you fall prey to easy arguments of majoritarianism? Don't you realise that the highest mark of being civilised is the love and care and respect you show to those who are considerably weaker than you? Don't you realise that the Hindu community that you choose to identify with to make yourself feel good can just as easily divide itself along some other lines, for instance into the socio-economically privileged and the less privileged, and you could then be in the new minority? Will you be parroting these arguments of majoritarianism then? Or, consider the large numbers of your sons and daughters who have emigrated to the West, and consider particularly, your grandchildren, who were born there. What if the West turned on them, these Hindu minorities? What if the granddaughter you adore so much in Birmingham or Atlanta or Boise suffered the same fate at the hands of rampaging Christian mobs that hundreds of equally adorable girls suffered at the hands of rampaging Hindu mobs in Godhra and elsewhere? Would you be singing paeans to majoritarianism then?

My community members. You are blessed with culture and intelligence. You can do better than display such unthinking hate. Realise that hate is a by-product of the fear of the Other, a fear which itself is a product of our primitive reptilian brains, programmed only to classify instantaneously, even if inaccurately, into friend or foe. Bring your intellect to moderate the sense of threat you feel whenever you see someone different. Realise that the apparently different Other is just yourself, justBrahman.You have the choice to love or to hate. Choose to love. Love is the highest ideal.


My Dear Fellow Hindus, Why Have You Lost Your True Religion? | Bharath Sethuraman
 
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Muslim,true hindus and the other minorities in india are united against saffaron jihad.

The two nation theory was not merely about muslim and hindus but moderate people and extremist hindus of this subcontinent.

Pakistan was just the first creation of the theory,Jinnah knew that rest will follow
 
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History is full of incidents here and there ( there should be none) but now liberals actually got a target to put the blame on even a grudge or family fued is being reported on the basis of caste and religion (it sells then why not) and as far as asking hindus about being tolerant is bullshit and its about time u open u r eyes and smell it
 
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Muslim,true hindus and the other minorities in india are united against saffaron jihad.

The two nation theory was not merely about muslim and hindus but moderate people and extremist hindus of this subcontinent.

Pakistan was just the first creation of the theory,Jinnah knew that rest will follow
true, but it was pakistan that followed jinnahs theory, india on the other hand, seems to get stronger and more united every day
 
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true, but it was pakistan that followed jinnahs theory, india on the other hand, seems to get stronger and more united every day

Sir,the muslims in india were left on purpose.Infact jinnah had the vision that someday someone like modi will make it to the PM of india

Wait and watch,these processes takes centuries
 
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IF "True Hindu Riligion" according Seculars means being a doormat in front of other religions, then no thanks..

Already packed in that harangue is the assumption that while Muslims and Christians have no evil in them and are not to be feared but loved, Hindus are evil who look down on lower caste and others. These sermons are delivered for redemption of Hindus from their evil ways.

After declaring there is no Hindu, no Muslim, no Christian, no Brahmin, no Shudra, no Outsider, no Insider, no Them, no Us, he declares there is though a Majoritarian Hindu Upper Caste in which he cannot find himself and god in while he sees god in everything and everyone else.

India has a genius in producing these morons by their millions.
 
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A wave of intolerance has swept through the land, threatening to submerge free-thinkers and cultural and religious minorities. A fever of hate has gripped the country.

For lovers of the land, for lovers of all humanity, this is painful to behold, immensely painful. And, when the refrains of hate are taken up not just by drunken goons in the pay of low-level politicians keen to exploit any difference, but by people from the educated and well-placed Hindu middle-class -- the community I hail from -- the pain I feel is monumental. I weep at their ignorance, I weep at their lack of critical thinking, their mindless parroting of others' sophistry, and above all, I weep at the hate that stands revealed in their hearts.

"My community members, educated and privileged as you are, why do some of you fall prey to the cheapest of sophistry?"

Members of my community, let me try to disabuse you of your prejudices. You should know that Muslims are human beings like you and me, wishing to live in harmony and to get on with their lives. They are not to be feared. As is true for Christians. And -- it is important this be said since I know that some of you harbour prejudices towards others of your own religion as well -- as is true for other Hindus lower down on the social structure than you.

You should know that the West is not poisoning our values, not corrupting our sons and daughters. You should know that our land has absorbed thousands of "conquests" before, by people, by ideas, by faiths, and has emerged only stronger. That this land has a particular genius for absorbing people, ideas, and faiths and making them its own. And that the root of this genius lies not in the external, practiced aspects of Hinduism, which are after all only aspects of culture, but in the underlying philosophy of non-duality emerging from the Vedas.

Aham brahmasmi.I am theBrahman,the one unity that underlies all creation, indeed, of which all creation is just a manifestation, justleela,play. In this philosophy, there is no separate you and I, there is no duality. All is one. There is no Hindu, no Muslim, no Christian. No Brahmin, no Shudra. No Outsider, no Insider. No Them, no Us. It is this philosophy of rejecting differences, of seeing oneself in the other, that undergirds the lives of those that live in this land and represents the genius of India.

My community members, educated and privileged as you are, why do some of you fall prey to the cheapest of sophistry? "They fly Pakistan flags in theirbastisand at cricket matches!" How many Pakistani flags have you actually seen? One, two, most likely none at all? What makes you leap to the conclusion that the entire Muslim community must be waving Pakistani flags? Can't you see that this is just a red herring put out by those trying to divide society for their own nefarious purposes, tempting you into intellectual fallacies with false symbols (the flag) of that "refuge of the scoundrel" (patriotism)?

"Realise that the apparently different Other is just yourself, justBrahman.You have the choice to love or to hate. Choose to love. Love is the highest ideal."

Why do some of you fall prey to easy arguments of majoritarianism? Don't you realise that the highest mark of being civilised is the love and care and respect you show to those who are considerably weaker than you? Don't you realise that the Hindu community that you choose to identify with to make yourself feel good can just as easily divide itself along some other lines, for instance into the socio-economically privileged and the less privileged, and you could then be in the new minority? Will you be parroting these arguments of majoritarianism then? Or, consider the large numbers of your sons and daughters who have emigrated to the West, and consider particularly, your grandchildren, who were born there. What if the West turned on them, these Hindu minorities? What if the granddaughter you adore so much in Birmingham or Atlanta or Boise suffered the same fate at the hands of rampaging Christian mobs that hundreds of equally adorable girls suffered at the hands of rampaging Hindu mobs in Godhra and elsewhere? Would you be singing paeans to majoritarianism then?

My community members. You are blessed with culture and intelligence. You can do better than display such unthinking hate. Realise that hate is a by-product of the fear of the Other, a fear which itself is a product of our primitive reptilian brains, programmed only to classify instantaneously, even if inaccurately, into friend or foe. Bring your intellect to moderate the sense of threat you feel whenever you see someone different. Realise that the apparently different Other is just yourself, justBrahman.You have the choice to love or to hate. Choose to love. Love is the highest ideal.


My Dear Fellow Hindus, Why Have You Lost Your True Religion? | Bharath Sethuraman

LOL My dear Pakistani Muslims stop whining for ever. Hold and take a deep breath. To start with you don't know what is Hindustan and Hinduism and our history. Our religion (Hinduism) is older than its name Hinduism itself.

We are the world's oldest civilization at any wave length. You can give an date of origin to any cult or religions. But can you do the same with Hinduism? Go ahead give it a try I myself will produce evidence of pregnant dating your claim. We as civilization survived so long not because we invaded other landmass and raped their women and chopped men head to convert them or we never bribed or undertook covert operations in promoting Hinduism like the West does. So how and why we still cherish? Till date?

Because? Ours is not religion but way of life. Our way of life of Human should be able to excersise restrain and freedom of free thinking. Shocking right? We have been told to question anything and everything including God's and God's men itself. We don't follow blindly. We adapt and evolve along with changing time.

Unlike other religions which says that Questioning God is a sin. And like other religions which says any one other than them will have to destroyed. Do you see the difference? And problem? We are just Humans. Our sin is our mind and thinking! We always be curious. At some point of time these people from these religions will start questioning and the will find nothing will happened like thunder striking them on the head for questioning. Once the breached this barrier these religions created by some men at some point will be demolished!!!

Have you heard about paganism. Which is 3000 + years religion yet completely vanished today. In short the current religions were created by few men on thoughts of some other few men. 2000 or 1700or 1400 years are like peanut divided by 10to the power of 10 in human history of this planet.

Today we are known as Hindus so be it. Yesterday we were Sanatana Dharmi before that in different ways and names. But what we uphold till today the core values never changed. It took few years or decades to change religions of West to Africa to Arab to East Coast. But even after 1200 years of invaders brutalities and genocides here we are!!!

PROUD HINDUS OF OUR OWN LAND HINDUSTAN!!! It's just human instinct to stand up fight. That's what we are doing now in India. Even though Islamic and Christian rulers chased out of India they still control our thinking. Pseudo-secularism is on the raise. Discrimination against Hindus and our belief is on the raise at massive scale. As a result we are fighting back at this ideology for political benefits of some corrupted politicians.

If you think Corruption alone is the responsible for Congress party failure then I like you to rethink once again. India or any other nations or civilization won't raise if it won't realize who they really are. What their previous generation stood for!!!

We have realized!!! Super Power Hindustan. ..
Our religions dint say we should first respect prophet or our God's. But the Land gave birth to us.

First Respect Mother to gave you birth

Second comes the father who is responsible for what you are today

Then Thirdly Your Teacher. Who gave you the knowledge

Only at last Comes the God.

Show me one religions who says this in black and white. And ask yourself a simple question. Which more well renowned thoughts and principles which are fake created out of selfishness
 
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all should be equal,no special privilages to any one,its time to teach the saffron chadies a lesson,bring in uniform civil code.

Then we are talking.

Sir,the muslims in india were left on purpose.Infact jinnah had the vision that someday someone like modi will make it to the PM of india

Wait and watch,these processes takes centuries
Thats the difference a visionary and others,Indira had a vision and she achived it in her life time.

And we dint send any for a purpose to Pakistan,stop balaming us for MQM and others .
 
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My community members. You are blessed with culture and intelligence. You can do better than display such unthinking hate. Realise that hate is a by-product of the fear of the Other, a fear which itself is a product of our primitive reptilian brains, programmed only to classify instantaneously, even if inaccurately, into friend or foe. Bring your intellect to moderate the sense of threat you feel whenever you see someone different. Realise that the apparently different Other is just yourself, justBrahman.You have the choice to love or to hate. Choose to love. Love is the highest ideal.


My Dear Fellow Hindus, Why Have You Lost Your True Religion? | Bharath Sethuraman


Adarsh liberals need to stop hating Modi, they should choose to love him.
 
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Hinduism is not a religion (in abrahamic sense) to being with, there is no question of losing anything, it only adds to its massive vault of wisdom and experience as time goes by.
 
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I think this is internal debate of Indian nation which has been going on since the past 200 years.

When some of us think from open and broad mind , then names are been given such as secularist, leftist, marxists and even communal.

We all know who are native Indians and how big is our nation.

Indian Civilization is an ancient civilization which is existed since centuries and have saw many challenges but now where we are standing the whole world is seeing towards us and saying we were not aware that Indian nation is having everything and they can make from needle to atom bomb to Nuclear reactors to space rockets.
 
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Muslim,true hindus and the other minorities in india are united against saffaron jihad.

The two nation theory was not merely about muslim and hindus but moderate people and extremist hindus of this subcontinent.

Pakistan was just the first creation of the theory,Jinnah knew that rest will follow

Tamils are still waiting for Pakistan to help liberate Tamilnadu from Hindian-Hindu hegemony , a promise yet to be fulfilled by Pakistan which is pre--occupied with Kashmir

In an interview with the Governor of Madras, Jinnah, the main leader of Muslim League, said that "India should be divided into four regions: Dravidistan, Hindustan, Bengalistan and Pakistan; Dravidistan would approximately consist of the area under the Madras Presidency.

Jinnah stated "I have every sympathy and shall do all to help, and you establish Dravidistan where the 7 per cent Muslim population will stretch its hands of friendship and live with you on lines of security, justice and fairplay."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dravida...on-recognition

Periyar_with_Jinnah_and_Ambedkar.JPG


Btw, the article is right - the true religion of Indians is Vedic - Brahmanism of the Aryans , the present form of Hinduism was looted by Brahmin invaders from Tamils from the 3rd AD to 7th AD - Sanskritised to give it a new make over
 
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