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KARACHI: Attempts made by the beleaguered Muttahida Qaumi Movement to seek an audience with Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif remained unsuccessful as he flew back to the capital following a couple of high-profile engagements at an airbase on Wednesday.

The PM spent a busy day in Karachi. He was the chief guest at a Karachi Stock Exchange award function and chaired a meeting of the Sindh apex committee held at an untraditional venue of the PAF Base Faisal instead of Sindh Governor House before returning to Islamabad in the evening.

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Under a cloud following startling disclosures by death row prisoner Saulat Mirza, Sindh Governor Dr Ishratul Ibad was conspicuous by his absence from the meeting at the airbase.

Just a day before the PM’s visit, MQM leader Dr Khalid Maqbool Siddiqui told the media that his party had requested the prime minister to give them time to listen to their grievances about the Karachi operation. “We have a lot to tell,” he said.

Besides raising other issues, said MQM sources, the party wanted to present documentary evidence to the PM with regard to the Rangers allegations about the seizure of unlicensed weapons in their March 11 raid on Nine Zero, the MQM headquarters.

However, the party faced disappointment when no one from the federal government informed them about the fate of their request.

“The Rabita [coordination] committee did not get a positive response [from the PM] when it sought time for a meeting with the prime minister,” MQM leader Syed Faisal Subzwari told reporters outside the Sindh Assembly building on Wednesday.

The sources said the MQM believed that they were not given time because of the fact that the PM did not want to meet an MQM delegation.

“This is not because of his [the PM’s] busy schedule ... we think he [the PM] avoided us because he did not want to displease the powers that be,” said an MQM source.

Protest against ‘media trial’

Members of the Sindh Assembly belonging to the MQM staged a protest demonstration outside the assembly building against “the media trial” of the MQM.

Carrying placards inscribed with slogans such as “We reject biased journalism” and “We want justice”, the lawmakers protested against private news channel ARY News.

Speaking on the occasion, Mr Subzwari said his party would not sit idle over what he described as the media trial of MQM chief Altaf Hussain and party workers. He demanded that the media trial of the MQM be stopped forthwith.

He said the pro-Taliban parties and some leaders were plotting to crush the MQM.

The MQM’s parliamentary party leader in the Sindh Assembly, Syed Sardar Ahmed, said that criminals should be brought before courts and not before the media for the purpose of character assassination.

Rangers patrol Nine Zero

A contingent of the Rangers and police patrolled the Nine Zero area on Wednesday to see whether the MQM had removed barriers from various roads and streets.

Initially, the arrival of masked soldiers in a convoy fuelled speculation that the paramilitary troops were about to carry out another raid on the MQM headquarters.

However, some MQM leaders met them and showed them the “barrier-free” areas.

An MQM leader later told Dawn that the party headquarters had become vulnerable to an attack after the removal of barricades and the patrol by the law enforcement agencies was part of security arrangements for the Nine Zero.

Muttahida attempts to meet PM fail - Pakistan - DAWN.COM
 
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Another round of action is upon them and this would probably grab parliamentarians and elected members. If a criminal is elected by people, his crime is not waived-off. Good to see justice prevailing - finally!
 
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Another round of action is upon them and this would probably grab parliamentarians and elected members. If a criminal is elected by people, his crime is not waived-off. Good to see justice prevailing - finally!
Same Happened in 1990s but MQM but MQM survived in the end of that period and now things are way more in MQM's favor right now.
 
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Same Happened in 1990s but MQM but MQM survived in the end of that period and now things are way more in MQM's favor right now.

This time it is not against MQM as a political party and it is not being done by a political party. Rangers doesn't represent a political party nor they are acting against party workers but only criminals and in this quest real and political MQM supporters are supporting them and should support them. Since arrests have happened there hasn't been any incident of target killing or ransom - Good for MQM political workers and Karachi residents.

If you find, MQM's security camera footage was released by an insider and another MQM party worker helped Rangers find ammunition which was hidden in a building adjacent to 90. MQM has terrorists in its ranks and MQM's political followers are supporting rangers to clean their party out of it.
 
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This time it is not against MQM as a political party and it is not being done by a political party. Rangers doesn't represent a political party nor they are acting against party workers but only criminals and in this quest real and political MQM supporters are supporting them and should support them. Since arrests have happened there hasn't been any incident of target killing or ransom - Good for MQM political workers and Karachi residents.
There Track Record is Laud and Clear and last few days Saulat Mirza Drama along with so Called Confession Dramas has been Exposing them Badly that this is all against MQM. Those areas which were Considered No Go Areas for an average Citizens are still No Go Area and Twin Blast has Totally exposed Truth out of Across the Board Action.

If you find, MQM's security camera footage was released by an insider and another MQM party worker helped Rangers find ammunition which was hidden in a building adjacent to 90. MQM hs terrorists in its ranks and MQM's political followers are supporting rangers to clean their party out of it.
Of Course if MQM has bad Apples MQM can also have Moles or those who would try to save themselves from Danger of Taken by Rangers and then made Confessions out of nothing by Tortures. Like I said Rangers role in 1990s are already Attached to their Track Record and Those Saulat Mirza Drama is exposing them much Further about their Actual Intention right here is.
 
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There Track Record is Laud and Clear and last few days Saulat Mirza Drama along with so Called Confession Dramas has been Exposing them Badly that this is all against MQM. Those areas which were Considered No Go Areas for an average Citizens are still No Go Area and Twin Blast has Totally exposed Truth out of Across the Board Action.

Forget Saulat Mirza as his statment wouldn't carry enough weight anyway. How would you defend criminals and proven - convicted terrorists getting arrested from 90? You don't need a "solat mirza" in this case put MQM leadership behind the bar. Also prohibited ammunition is recovered from them and everybody responsible would be facing its fate - no exceptions - no tolerance there. Would you agree?

Of Course if MQM has bad Apples MQM can also have Moles or those who would try to save themselves from Danger of Taken by Rangers and then made Confessions out of nothing by Tortures. Like I said Rangers role in 1990s are already Attached to their Track Record and Those Saulat Mirza Drama is exposing them much Further about their Actual Intention right here is.

Solat Mirza is a proven murderer. There has been 10s of admissions from different criminals which all point towards few people who give them instructions. There is a due process of law which is being followed and if criminals are proven criminals and provide enough evidence which would put few public faces behind the bars - you should be supporting that as criminals in MQM ranks are giving it a bad name. Would you agree?
 
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Forget Saulat Mirza as his statment wouldn't carry enough weight anyway. How would you defend criminals and proven - convicted terrorists getting arrested from 90? You don't need a "solat mirza" to there to put MQM leadership behind the bar. Also prohibited ammunition is recovered from them and everybody responsible would be facing its fate - no exceptions - no tolerance there. Would you agree?



Solat Mirza is a proven murderer. There has been 10s of admissions from different criminals which all point towards few people who give them instructions. There is a due process of law which is being followed and if criminals are proven criminals and provide enough evidence which would put few public faces behind the bars - you should be supporting that as criminals in MQM ranks are giving it a bad name. Would you agree?
do not bother. he's as brainwashed as a nazi.
 
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do not bother. he's as brainwashed as a nazi.

If they are brainwashed, it is even more important to argue with them with pure logic. This time there are no street protests and no MQM rallies are getting out. One may ask why? Reason is simple that even mqm supporters realize there are criminals and terrorists in their ranks. Some of them are supported by party heads and others are just criminals acting on their own behalf. Every sort of criminal is hurting peace of Karachi.

It is good for MQM's future that its roge element is put to rest for ever. Political MQM may keep working and keep getting popular - no one would object.

Currently, MQM has offices across the country and only those buildings are targetted where illegal activity is reported. You wouldn't have seen any action against MQM offices in Peshawar, Lahore, Mianwali or elsewhere. Only those offices or buildings are targetted which have crimes going on and it is proven now that only criminals are a target.
 
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Forget Saulat Mirza as his statment wouldn't carry enough weight anyway. How would you defend criminals and proven - convicted terrorists getting arrested from 90? You don't need a "solat mirza" to there to put MQM leadership behind the bar. Also prohibited ammunition is recovered from them and everybody responsible would be facing its fate - no exceptions - no tolerance there.
MQM has Claimed that everyone of them were Licensed and they would show it to Court so till the Court Doesnt Ask them to show I would give them Benefit of Doubt for that here. Saulat Mirza is convicted Criminal who was used to read a Scripted Statement just for some Relief on his execution that is the thing here and he was most Shamelessly used against MQM in this regards as I have yet to see any example of Video of Convicted Criminals facing Execution like that except for Fictions maybe.

Solat Mirza is a proven murderer. There has been 10s of admissions from different criminals which all point towards few people who give them instructions. There is a due process of law which is being followed and if criminals are proven criminals and provide enough evidence which would put few public faces behind the bars - you should be supporting that as criminals in MQM ranks are giving it a bad name.
There were Thousands of them in 1990s but what happened in the end was Lack of Evidence and got released. In Pakistan our Law enforcement Agencies are famous for making Convictions of something people doesnt even Liable for and same is happening right now in all this Drama that is kind of Repetition of 1990s. People of Karachi has EXPERIENCED such things before and that Experience Talks here no matter how much things are pulled out of no where its quite obvious that MQM is being SINGLED OUT and TARGETED here.

do not bother. he's as brainwashed as a nazi.
I think you should stay out of this because I have already showed you face of your Beloved Leader Imran Khan many times in the past and how low he can get for point scoring so better stay out of it.
 
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MQM has Claimed that everyone of them were Licensed and they would show it to Court so till the Court Doesnt Ask them to show I would give them Benefit of Doubt for that here.

In a hypothetical scenario, if you find guns found from 90 were unlicensed or prohibited type, would you still give them benefit of doubt or would you support prosecution and punishment to those responsible for keeping it? Just want to know if you are at-all in the favor of prosecution when criminals are proven or would you still demand a "benefit of doubt" regardless?

There were Thousands of them in 1990s but what happened in the end was Lack of Evidence and got released. In Pakistan our Law enforcement Agencies are famous for making Convictions of something people doesnt even Liable for and same is happening right now in all this Drama that is kind of Repetition of 1990s. People of Karachi has EXPERIENCED such things before and that Experience Talks here no matter how much things are pulled out of no where its quite obvious that MQM is being SINGLED OUT and TARGETED here.

If somebody is not guilty, he must be set free. I am with you on that. My entire emphasis is on not releasing the criminals if they are found guilty. Would you agree with me on that?
 
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Wrong. The Punjabi Establishment cannot see smaller ethnic parties asking for more share of the cake. Their behaviour from 1971 in Dhaka, operations in Baluchistan, Operation in 92 is a living proof that Establishment is made up of racist fat men with 60< IQ's.


That is a sick philosophy my friend. Where was your Punjabi Establishment when Zardari was eating entire country with both hands? Shame to see you are lost in these idiotic rhetoric when real problems are evident on the surface. What has Punjabi or Baluchi or Makrani Establishment got to do with crimes and terrorism in Karachi? Whoever is responsible for crimes should be nailed and fixed.

I am Punjabi and I stand for investigation and punishment for the Punjabis responsible for killings in Model Town. How would you describe my Punjabism with I demanding prosecution against Punjabis?

You have been fed with filty stories by people who have sqeezed blood and future out of you. Who has been ruling Sindh? Who has been ruling Baluchistan? Who has been ruling KPK? Who is responsible for slowest growth ever recorded in Sindh? Who is responsible for hundred of deaths of children in Thar and Makran? F* Punjabi Establishment? Now somebody stands and ask inquiry against the responsible ones.. your $hity stories come up bashing Punjabis and Establishment - so the real terrorists and criminals may stay free and you keep changing "Punjabi Establishment $hit".
 
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In a hypothetical scenario, if you find guns found from 90 were unlicensed or prohibited type, would you still give them benefit of doubt or would you support prosecution and punishment to those responsible for keeping it? Just want to know if you are at-all in the favor of prosecution when criminals are proven or would you still demand a "benefit of doubt" regardless?
If they were not then I would consider them Illegal and wont support them despite of the fact that These Guns Were Handy throughout these 8 years when they were Facing Threats of Taliban, Gang War and Banned Sectarian Outfits that were Armed to the teeth and has used their Weapons against LEAs and people of Karachi as well. Anyways Illegal is Illegal despite of having Merit in their Justifications of having them
If somebody is not guilty, he must be set free. I am with you on that. My entire emphasis is on not releasing the criminals if they are found guilty. Would you agree with me on that?
I agree with you but Past Experiences doesnt Support such thing has happened. I am not convinced the way Rangers are Handling the scenario because its giving an obvious message of 1990s Repetitions rather then Genuine Efforts.

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If they were not then I would consider them Illegal and wont support them despite of the fact that These Guns Were Handy throughout these 8 years when they were Facing Threats of Taliban, Gang War and Banned Sectarian Outfits that were Armed to the teeth and has used their Weapons against LEAs and people of Karachi as well. Anyways Illegal is Illegal despite of having Merit in their Justifications of having them
I agree with you but Past Experiences doesnt Support such thing has happened. I am not convinced the way Rangers are Handling the scenario because its giving an obvious message of 1990s Repetitions rather then Genuine Efforts.
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For the red part: Thanks. That is our entire point and you agreed.

For the past expereinces: past dealign with Mutahida are equally bad. Whoever was involved in operation against MQM was killed and Altaf Hussian proudly called that incident when he threatened Rangers. If you were victim, you don't relieve yourself by victimizing others. Ataf Hussain's statements against Pakistan has been equally hurting but no one is looking at "past experiences" here... even a person like me who is against MQM wants to let them work and live under legal boundaries. Infect I am a fan of Mustafa Kamal who has uplifted Karachi several levels within a very short span of time. When you find people blaming MQM, they do not blame the political MQM but terrorist part who is found responsible for crimes, killings and terrorism times and again.

When those terrorists and criminals are targeted, we all are happy and we want political MQM to join us in eliminating them. No one is denying MQM their right to lead or rule but no one must accept terrorism under any umbrella, let it be that of MQM, PPP or PTI - and that should all happen under legal course, with justice and without any bias.
 
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