Muslim Woman Denied Job Over Head Scarf Wins in Supreme Court

[ZYXW]

I always figured that's why they call it "Land of opportunity"!

Opportunity toh hai but not everyone knows how to use it.....but something tells me you're one of the select few that do

bilkul nahi badle hype .....stay smiling

 

[livingdead]

^^^ sleepy time for kids... I guess...

 

[ZYXW]

^^^ sleepy time for kids... I guess...

no no promise, kids can stay awake

 

[Dubious]

People pay for a certain kind of image Abercombie products offer. Their models barely wear any cloths, and when they do it is sort of there. A salesperson in the middle of that store wearing a head scarf negatively impacts that image.

Folks that buy their cloths could be as shallow/dumb as a rock, regardless this is the image they are paying for.

Why didnt you offer your legal services? Their models do that so do car models and in fact even models advertising ANYTHING....just remove the clothes and men wanna buy it...

BUT how does that have anything to do with being a slaesperson? Just coz carshow room hire such model, you wont find their saleswomen 80% nude as on tv...Irrelevant and cant even call it logic!

 

[jamahir]

LOL in that case

aoo na system change kerain

need help of the socialists??

Damm

How are they coping up with the Heat of South India

many muslims nowadays in south india are "more muslim" than the arabs, so i suppose their faith is getting them through the summer.

At least they should buy a white Burka.

then bangalore and hyderabad will look like the city of ghosts.

 

[gambit]

If she had applied for job at Victoria's Secret then I'm pretty sure she would had lost the case.

That is the problem with the case.

VS is about women's sex appeal and AF is not that far behind for both young men and women. On a personal note, I have female in-laws -- plural -- who worked at VS for combine service time of a decade and VS will not hire a certain type of female for their front staff. Why ? Because just like AF, VS considers their front staff to be 'brand representatives' and not just 'salesman' or 'saleswoman' or 'salesperson'. It is not merely wordplay and even Home Depot got into the act.

A 'salesman' is about selling, simple as that. On the other hand, a 'brand representative' is someone who at least have to portray himself or herself as a believer in the brand. It is a quasi-military or even 'cult-ish' attitude or perspective about the brand.

There are total of nine justices in US Supreme Court, eight of them voted in her favor, do you think all eight of them are fools?

Simply put, if the company had a strong case they would had won.

The Justices are not fools, but when they learned that AF did considered that religious demands were a factor in Ms. Elauf's attire, the justices had to do what AF did -- factored in religion in their decisions.

The store's assistant manager brought up religion and the manager essentially concurred that overt religious overtones via the head scarf is inconsistent with the brand, which is overt sexuality. If AF had kept religion out of it, then most likely the Justices would have ruled in AF's favor.

Supreme Court will hear Samantha Elauf headscarf case - Business Insider

An Abercrombie assistant manager considered Elauf a "good candidate" but wasn't sure whether her headscarf violated Abercrombie's so-called look policy, according to the EEOC brief.

That assistant manager consulted a manager, explaining that she thought Elauf wore the scarf for religious reasons. The manager said the headscarf wasn't permitted, even if Elauf wore it because she was a Muslim, according to the EEOC.

A Victoria's Secret or Hooters managerial staff would have done the exact same thing -- assume that the head scarf is a religious mandate. Whether the religious mandate is factually correct or not is a different issue.

You are a guy so you understand exactly what I am saying...

 

[Jf Thunder]

that is not a headscarf... that is almost a burqa.

why does she want to spread unpleasantness??

its a head scarf

 

[jamahir]

its a head scarf

well, headscarf is what this syrian soldier is wearing ( photo posted in post 17 )...

what the lady in the op is wearing is like the extended headscarf from the india photos i had posted two months or so ago ( the typical modern indian muslim female school students, esp in south india ).

 

[Jf Thunder]

well, headscarf is what this syrian soldier is wearing ( photo posted in post 17 )...

what the lady in the op is wearing is like the extended headscarf from the india photos i had posted two months or so ago ( the typical modern indian muslim female school students, esp in south india ).

what you posted above was the horrible horrible ninja dress,
this and the original post are both technically headscarves

 

[fallstuff]

Why didnt you offer your legal services? Their models do that so do car models and in fact even models advertising ANYTHING....just remove the clothes and men wanna buy it...

BUT how does that have anything to do with being a slaesperson? Just coz carshow room hire such model, you wont find their saleswomen 80% nude as on tv...Irrelevant and cant even call it logic!

I contemplated the thought of becoming a lawyer, but my stomach couldn't stand it.

A salesperson wearing type of attire they sell is more approachable and likely be able to answer questions about the said attire resulting in higher sales. In real world you want to match the person with the job requirements, not the other way around.

Teenagers and young adults often times would not even want to be seen walking along with their parents, anybody who has been to a mall knows that.

Your analogy of selling cars is not comparable to this particular instance, models on the runway appear as emotionless or aloof to showcase the attire !!

 

[Jf Thunder]

need help of the socialists??



many muslims nowadays in south india are "more muslim" than the arabs, so i suppose their faith is getting them through the summer.



then bangalore and hyderabad will look like the city of ghosts.

nowadays they look like city of ninjas

 

[jamahir]

what you posted above was the horrible horrible ninja dress,

yes, but in my previous post i was talking about our conversation from about two months ago.

this and the original post are both technically headscarves

but a elongated version... which makes it questionable.

nowadays they look like city of ninjas

oh, you should visit south india of now... almost taliban-land.

to think that once hazrat tipu sultan ever ruled here.

 

[Jf Thunder]

but a elongated version... which makes it questionable.

i dont care that much, as long as a mullah cant hide in it

oh, you should visit south india of now... almost taliban-land.

to think that once hazrat tipu sultan ever ruled here.

lol, this is getting to damn popular in Pakistan too, o think we had modern Muslims such as M A Jinnah, and thinkers such as Iqbal, and dictators such as Ayub Khan.

btw what has this got to do with Tipu Sultan?

 

[Styx]

good analysis on the young turks (liberal US media)

 

[jamahir]

btw what has this got to do with Tipu Sultan?

tipu sultan ruled from srirangapatna, not very far from bangalore, both in south india... tipu was the only transnational historic leader south asia had, and he would have been most saddened to see the reactionary thinking of many modern indian muslims.