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Here is an excellent essay by mr. hamdani.

show which Muslim Mullahs were on payroll of British.



  • Maulana Fazlur Rahman Muradabadi with having facilitated the English capture of Lucknow.
  • Maulana Rashid Gangohi, Tazkira-e-Rasheed, on page 80 has the great Deobandi freedom fighter claiming that he was entirely loyal to the British Empire
  • Dean of Darul Uloom Deoband, Hafiz Maulana Muhammad Ahmad, was given the title of “Shams-ul-Ulema” by the British governor of UP
  • Ahmad Raza Khan Barelvi was principally a supporter of British rule and declared jihad against the British to be unlawful.
  • Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi, made his name as a recruiter for the British Empire before and during the First World War. For his stellar services to the British Empire, in 1915 Gandhiji was awarded the Kaiser-e-Hind medal — the highest honour for a loyal British Indian subject.



Please do not forget to read the last paragraph before commenting. Thank you



Loyalists of the British Empire


Almost all Deobandi religious leaders and all Barelvi ulema were on the payroll of the empire. This is how they sustained a living and ample proof can be found in their own books

Yasser Latif Hamdani
July 07, 2014




Canadian activist and polemicist Tarek Fatah, responding to my article ‘Shorish Kashmiri, Azad and partition’ last week (Daily Times, June 30, 2014) thought it wise to declare, on Twitter, that what I had written about Shorish Kashmiri was inspired by Ahmedi propaganda. He declared that no Ahmedi had fought against the British and that the British had sustained the Ahmedi community and rewarded it time and again. This, of course, is the standard line of the mullahs in Pakistan, a line that has been forwarded time and again by Tehreek-e-Khatm-e-Nabuwat and Majlis-e-Ahrar. This was also the elaborate fiction that Shorish Kashmiri invented along with Ataullah Shah Bokhari and Mazhar Ali Azhar of Ahrar in the 1940s to attack the Muslim League and discredit it as the authoritative representative of Muslims. What is strange however is that a self-styled progressive refusenik like Fatah, who does not tire of attacking Muslims otherwise, has chosen to repeat this distortion of history.

The biggest issue the scholars of Deobandi and Barelvi schools had with the Ahmedis was that Mirza Ghulam Ahmad, the founder of the sect, had reinterpreted the doctrine of jihad as more than qital (fighting). Consequently, the Ahmedi community as a whole remained constitutional and law-abiding citizens of British India. The Ahmedi religious movement itself had been at the forefront of the missionary activities of the church. Mirza Ghulam Ahmed, before founding the Ahmedi sect, had been considered the intellectual champion of Muslims against the onslaught of the Christian west and the re-absorption activities of Hindu sects like the Arya Samajists. A peaceful, hardworking and enterprising community, the Ahmedis produced the likes of Sir Zafrullah Khan who was one of the finest advocates in law, the president of the Muslim League for a while, one of Pakistan’s founders and later head of the International Court of Justice. For this reason, Ahmedis are denounced as British agents even though there is not a single Ahmedi who received any patronage or pension from the British Empire.

Let us, however, look at the roles of those other groups who were considered to be at the forefront of the Independence Movement. That the Hindu reform and revival movement itself owed a great deal to British patronage after 1857 can hardly be disputed. Needless to say, the most celebrated freedom fighter in all of South Asia, Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi, made his name as a recruiter for the British Empire before and during the First World War. When Jinnah asked Gandhi to join the movement for Indian self-rule, Gandhi’s condescending reply, in olde English, was, “First ye seek the recruiting office” and then the British will open their doors to his petitions. For his stellar services to the British Empire, in 1915 Gandhiji was awarded the Kaiser-e-Hind medal — the highest honour for a loyal British Indian subject.

Hindus were not the only ones to receive this patronage by the empire. Almost all Deobandi religious leaders — supposedly the most militant of anti-British elements — and all Barelvi ulema were on the payroll of the empire. This is how they sustained a living and ample proof can be found in their own books. For example, in Sawanay-e-Qasimi — the biography of Maulana Qasim Nanawatvi — page 103 credits Maulana Fazlur Rahman Muradabadi with having facilitated the English capture of Lucknow. On page 247 of the same book we find that Deobandi religious figures were proud of being pensioners of the British Empire and used it to prove their loyalty to the monarch. The biography of Maulana Rashid Gangohi, Tazkira-e-Rasheed, on page 80 has the great Deobandi freedom fighter claiming that he was entirely loyal to the British Empire. On page 160 of the Tehreek-e-Shaikh-ul-Hind, we find that another ‘freedom fighter’ and the Dean of Darul Uloom Deoband, Hafiz Maulana Muhammad Ahmad, was given the title of “Shams-ul-Ulema” by the British governor of UP. His most famous student was Maulana Hussain Ahmad Madni, the great ally of the Congress Party and the leader of Jamiat-e-Ulema-Hind — another ‘freedom fighter’. He is considered a great hero of the freedom movement by Pakistani Islamists and Indian nationalists. The entire Deoband edifice was built on official patronage and British pensions.

Now let us come to the other side of the Hanafi Sunni coin: the Barelvis. Ahmad Raza Khan Barelvi was principally a supporter of British rule and declared jihad against the British to be unlawful. His fatwa can be found on page 447 of his treatise Al-Mohajat, Al Mohtamanat Fi Ayat-al-Mumtahanat. Francis Robinson, in his book Separatism Amongst Indian Muslims: The politics of UP Muslims 1860-1923 on page 268 confirms the pro-government fatwas of Ahmad Raza Khan Barelvi.

Similarly, the Shias by and large remained loyal and law abiding citizens of the empire though it must be said to their credit that, unlike the Barelvis and Deobandis, they were not patronised by the British. A sub-sect of Shia Islam, the Ismailis, both Agha Khanis and Bohris, looked towards the British Raj as a means to protect them from hostile sectarian majorities. Indeed, so close was the relationship of Sir Agha Khan to the British that Kemal Ataturk publicly accused the Agha Khan of working for the British against Turkey, though unjustifiably. Needless to say, Kemal Ataturk himself has also been accused of being a British agent by latter day votaries of the pan-Islamic khilafat.

The point I wish to make is this: people interacted with the empire in different ways. Some people, very few and far between, did take up arms against the empire, more often for reasons wholly unsavoury than noble ones. Others worked within the system or were its beneficiaries. The accusation targeting one community or the other of having been ‘British agents’ is therefore farfetched and wholly unfounded. As free men and women in the 21st century, we should approach modern realities without the rancour that our blinkered views on history cause. As for Tarek Fatah, given his penchant to attack minorities like Ahmedis, the logical question is whether he feels any pang of hypocrisy vis-à-vis the fact that he is a Canadian subject of the Queen of England?

@Azlan Haider, @Joe Shearer (you probably know all this)

Loyalists of the British Empire
 
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Bakwas but this explains a lot as far as it concerns Mr. Fauji. Now I know why you nonshalantly mock the early Caliphs. Anyway anyone who reads up about the history of the time will know that it was the Deobandis and only the Deobandis who by far were willing to fight the British. This is acknowledged by British Historians Francis Robinson and Peter Hardi who also acknowledge that largely it was Ahmad Khan Barelvi and Ghulam Ahmad Qadiani who were die hard supporters of the Brits. I am not a deobandi but as much as you can villify them for opposing Pakistan movement and for creating fasad today you cannot call them out for that time. In fact only their leaders were ever imprisoned one such leader that comes to mind is Maulana Mahmud ul Hassan who was captured in Hejaz as he went to meet with Ottoman officials and imprisoned in Malta.

As for Barelvis they made up for it during the Pakistan movement and even the Ahmadi leadership was instrumental in the Pakistan movement so while their original leaders were no doubt on British payroll their later leadership did right by the Muslims and should be commended.
 
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Bakwas but this explains a lot as far as it concerns Mr. Fauji. Now I know why you nonshalantly mock the early Caliphs. Anyway anyone who reads up about the history of the time will know that it was the Deobandis and only the Deobandis who by far were willing to fight the British. This is acknowledged by British Historians Francis Robinson and Peter Hardi who also acknowledge that largely it was Ahmad Khan Barelvi and Ghulam Ahmad Qadiani who were die hard supporters of the Brits. I am not a deobandi but as much as you can villify them for opposing Pakistan movement and for creating fasad today you cannot call them out for that time. In fact only their leaders were ever imprisoned one such leader that comes to mind is Maulana Mahmud ul Hassan who was captured in Hejaz as he went to meet with Ottoman officials and imprisoned in Malta.

As for Barelvis they made up for it during the Pakistan movement and even the Ahmadi leadership was instrumental in the Pakistan movement so while their original leaders were no doubt on British payroll their later leadership did right by the Muslims and should be commended.


Were the following Mullahs not deobandi?
  • Maulana Fazlur Rahman Muradabadi with having facilitated the English capture of Lucknow.
  • Maulana Rashid Gangohi, Tazkira-e-Rasheed, on page 80 has the great Deobandi freedom fighter claiming that he was entirely loyal to the British Empire
  • Dean of Darul Uloom Deoband, Hafiz Maulana Muhammad Ahmad, was given the title of “Shams-ul-Ulema” by the British governor of UP
 
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Were the following Mullahs not deobandi?
  • Maulana Fazlur Rahman Muradabadi with having facilitated the English capture of Lucknow.

Source? I read about this dude but what I found is one that he was a Sufi in the state of Mujzub and second that he did fight the British but he fled from the field.
 
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Source? I read about this dude but what I found is one that he was a Sufi in the state of Mujzub and second that he did fight the British but he fled from the field.

Please read the OP.


It clearly provides a reference/source:

in Sawanay-e-Qasimi — the biography of Maulana Qasim Nanawatvi — page 103 credits Maulana Fazlur Rahman Muradabadi with having facilitated the English capture of Lucknow.
 
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Now let us come to the other side of the Hanafi Sunni coin: the Barelvis. Ahmad Raza Khan Barelvi was principally a supporter of British rule and declared jihad against the British to be unlawful. His fatwa can be found on page 447 of his treatise Al-Mohajat, Al Mohtamanat Fi Ayat-al-Mumtahanat. Francis Robinson, in his book Separatism Amongst Indian Muslims: The politics of UP Muslims 1860-1923 on page 268 confirms the pro-government fatwas of Ahmad Raza Khan Barelvi.

Similarly, the Shias by and large remained loyal and law abiding citizens of the empire though it must be said to their credit that, unlike the Barelvis and Deobandis, they were not patronised by the British. A sub-sect of Shia Islam, the Ismailis, both Agha Khanis and Bohris, looked towards the British Raj as a means to protect them from hostile sectarian majorities. Indeed, so close was the relationship of Sir Agha Khan to the British that Kemal Ataturk publicly accused the Agha Khan of working for the British against Turkey, though unjustifiably. Needless to say, Kemal Ataturk himself has also been accused of being a British agent by latter day votaries of the pan-Islamic khilafat.

The point I wish to make is this: people interacted with the empire in different ways. Some people, very few and far between, did take up arms against the empire, more often for reasons wholly unsavoury than noble ones. Others worked within the system or were its beneficiaries. The accusation targeting one community or the other of having been ‘British agents’ is therefore farfetched and wholly unfounded. As free men and women in the 21st century, we should approach modern realities without the rancour that our blinkered views on history cause. As for Tarek Fatah, given his penchant to attack minorities like Ahmedis, the logical question is whether he feels any pang of hypocrisy vis-à-vis the fact that he is a Canadian subject of the Queen of England?

@Azlan Haider, @Joe Shearer (you probably know all this)

Loyalists of the British Empire

Imam Ahmad Rida Khan was once sent a letter with the Queen's stamp on it. He sent the letter back but with the stamp now placed upside down. He did not engage in politics, and never accepted any money whatsoever from the British.
 
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@FaujHistorian

How about the leaders of the Muslim league? - I read they were quite close to the British empire - lackeys even.

I am sure there were those too.

But you gotta be specific with names etc. Please.

Imam Ahmad Rida Khan was once sent a letter with the Queen's stamp on it. He sent the letter back but with the stamp now placed upside down. He did not engage in politics, and never accepted any money whatsoever from the British.

Be specific. No stories please.

Read the OP. It says:

Ahmad Raza Khan Barelvi was principally a supporter of British rule and declared jihad against the British to be unlawful.

His fatwa can be found on page 447 of his treatise Al-Mohajat, Al Mohtamanat Fi Ayat-al-Mumtahanat. Francis Robinson, in his book Separatism Amongst Indian Muslims: The politics of UP Muslims 1860-1923 on page 268 confirms the pro-government fatwas of Ahmad Raza Khan Barelvi.
 
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Bakwas but this explains a lot as far as it concerns Mr. Fauji. Now I know why you nonshalantly mock the early Caliphs. Anyway anyone who reads up about the history of the time will know that it was the Deobandis and only the Deobandis who by far were willing to fight the British. This is acknowledged by British Historians Francis Robinson and Peter Hardi who also acknowledge that largely it was Ahmad Khan Barelvi and Ghulam Ahmad Qadiani who were die hard supporters of the Brits. I am not a deobandi but as much as you can villify them for opposing Pakistan movement and for creating fasad today you cannot call them out for that time. In fact only their leaders were ever imprisoned one such leader that comes to mind is Maulana Mahmud ul Hassan who was captured in Hejaz as he went to meet with Ottoman officials and imprisoned in Malta.

As for Barelvis they made up for it during the Pakistan movement and even the Ahmadi leadership was instrumental in the Pakistan movement so while their original leaders were no doubt on British payroll their later leadership did right by the Muslims and should be commended.

Imam Ahmad Rida Khan was not a supporter of the British.He was not on their payroll and never took british money.

He favoured them for relations with Muslims over the idol worshipping hindus because they are Ahl al Kitab, and they did not persecute the Muslims and he had the foresight of what the hindus will do to the Muslims in future india.

I am sure there were those too.

But you gotta be specific with names etc. Please.



Be specific. No stories please.

Read the OP. It says:

Ahmad Raza Khan Barelvi was principally a supporter of British rule and declared jihad against the British to be unlawful.

His fatwa can be found on page 447 of his treatise Al-Mohajat, Al Mohtamanat Fi Ayat-al-Mumtahanat. Francis Robinson, in his book Separatism Amongst Indian Muslims: The politics of UP Muslims 1860-1923 on page 268 confirms the pro-government fatwas of Ahmad Raza Khan Barelvi.

its not a story. It is a fact.

He issued fatwas on how to deal with the British. Your copy and paste of someone else's assertion that they were "pro-government" is just that, a story!
 
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Imam Ahmad Rida Khan was not a supporter of the British.He was not on their payroll and never took british money.

He favoured them for relations with Muslims over the idol worshipping hindus because they are Ahl al Kitab, and they did not persecute the Muslims and he had the foresight of what the hindus will do to the Muslims in future india.



its not a story. It is a fact.

He issued fatwas on how to deal with the British. Your copy and paste of someone else's assertion that they were "pro-government" is just that, a story!

So you agree that he gave fatwa (religious decree) in favor of / supporting British Empire?

Thank you
 
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Were the following Mullahs not deobandi?
  • Dean of Darul Uloom Deoband, Hafiz Maulana Muhammad Ahmad, was given the title of “Shams-ul-Ulema” by the British governor of UP

This I have found to be true but it is not because he did anything for them rather they wanted him to stay in line. Anyway deobandis acknowledge this in his biography but say he did not accept awards from non-Muslims and he returned it to the British.
 
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Imam Ahmad Rida Khan was not a supporter of the British.He was not on their payroll and never took british money.

He favoured them for relations with Muslims over the idol worshipping hindus because they are Ahl al Kitab, and they did not persecute the Muslims and he had the foresight of what the hindus will do to the Muslims in future india.

It is well known he was a friend of the Sharifs of Mecca and so was pro British, whether or not he took money from them is irrelevant in my view. Nonetheless the point is if someone invades your home country and occupies it then as Muslim you must be ready to fight, anybody who says otherwise and goes ahead and issues a fatwa in said regard has betrayed his faith.

That is BS, at the time Muslim-Hindu relations were not at a boiling point like the time of partition.

@FaujHistorian looks like the author is an Ahmadi, are you an Ahmadi yourself? You know it is so much easier to find Ghulam Ahmad's statements backing the British than to confirm any of the narratives presented here but he dismisses the accusation against the founder of Ahmadiya while denouncing others when their is so much more proof against the former LOL.
 
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So you agree that he gave fatwa (religious decree) in favor of / supporting British Empire?

Thank you

No. I never said that. He taught Muslims on how to deal with ALL non-Muslims, British or Hindu.

He was aware of British in Palestine, Turkey, and Egypt. He was a traveller to Hijaz and Yemen, and knew ground situations very well.
 
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It is well known he was a friend of the Sharifs of Mecca and so was pro British, whether or not he took money from them is irrelevant in my view. Nonetheless the point is if someone invades your home country and occupies it then as Muslim you must be ready to fight, anybody who says otherwise and goes ahead and issues a fatwa in said regard has betrayed his faith.

That is BS, at the time Muslim-Hindu relations were not at a boiling point like the time of partition.

@FaujHistorian looks like the author is an Ahmadi, are you an Ahmadi yourself? You know it is so much easier to find Ghulam Ahmad's statements backing the British than to confirm any of the narratives presented here but he dismisses the accusation against the founder of Ahmadiya while denouncing others when their is so much more proof against the former LOL.


Well said. Even though I am not an Ahmadi, but I do stand by them and other Pakistani minorities for their right to prosper in our beautiful country.

Based on my studies, Mirza GA abhorred the militant Islam aka TTP like people.

Perhaps he was correct if we see the horrible atrocities committed by TTP on our own 50,000 people.
 
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