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Muhammad Zia-ul-Haq's death anniversary being observed today.

Zulmat Ko Zia, Sar Sar Ko Saba, Banday Ko Khuda Kia Likhna

ظلمت کو ضیا صر صر کو صبا بندے کو خدا کیا لکھنا


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Dude that's factually incorrect.

Pakistan progressed in sports. From Imran khan to Shehbaz Sr to jansher and Jahangir during that era.

We had a vibrant arts society in terms of classical dramas and comedies like 50 50.

F16s are not exactly donkeys.

We sneaked through our nuclear ambitions.

As far as beards. Well the hippies are still wearing them and its still cool.

And as far as women are concerned. I can literally bet you women were better off then as now considering our eastern values.

In retrospect everything can be sold as negative or positive.

I can debate you for hours that nuking Japan was a good idea and also a bad one just as easy.

With Russia gone and Zia threatening bigger chunks of the puzzle he had to go. Simple enough.

Now what brought Zia to power is of no one's interest now?

Had Bhutto carried on. It would have been a death sentence for a strategic sound Pakistan.

Survival matters not glory in a socialist world of the 70 80s.

We managed to stay neutral in Iran Iraq war. Can you imagine that?

History is just repeating itself yet we prefer petty quarrels over the bigger picture.
You're right el sidd we can debate for hours but one thing we as a nation should never forget is that no matter what no matter how severe our political differences can be but we never ever allow should such an evil and brutal person to rule Pakistan again this is what we should teach to our future generations and as i said earlier we all should do toba to Allah and non muslim Pakistanis to their God's that we never get a person like him to rule us again.
 
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You're right el sidd we can debate for hours but one thing we as a nation should never forget is that no matter what we should never ever allow such an evil and brutal person to rule Pakistan this is what we should teach to our future generations and as i said earlier we all should do toba to Allah and non muslim Pakistanis to their God's that we never get a person like him to rule us again.

I am sure everyone is happy now with achakzai asfandyaars and zardari sharifs.

Anyhow I just hope that the nation gets united again.

Zia to faani tha mar gaya
Tum kitne Bhutto maroge

Har nafs se Bhutto niklega


Lol circle of life continues in Pakistan. The polarization deepens.
 
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The ones praising him here should at least read a single book by an Author belonging from the Military. Each of them criticized him for ruining the Military and the nation. How Altaf Hussain was imported from America where he worked at fuel station later admitting him into the Karachi University for Majir Uprising and intolerance towards other ethnics. Kids here need to read books instead of finishing of a Wiki Article.
 
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Zia died a long period ago ........... a lot could or should have changed. He is history, there is no point in making him a scapegoat for every other fault that exists in our society. I could only be interested in knowing what else could have happened had there been any other person in charge at that time. And going forward when will we learn to own our problems.
 
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A crazy fanatic and a brutal dictator who thankfully met his violent end, if not we would have been using donkeys as mode of transport, sports would have been banned, men forced to have beards, women made property of men like cattle and kept indoors.
 
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A crazy fanatic and a brutal dictator who thankfully met his violent end, if not we would have been using donkeys as mode of transport, sports would have been banned, men forced to have beards, women made property of men like cattle and kept indoors.

You are flying F-16s rather than riding donkeys ... But the real donkeys wont understand
 
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I dont have any problem with Zia, creating Altaf Mafia was necessary to tame the influence of rabid PPP, it was matter of state security, you cant afford absence of opposition in province like Sindh where emotions were high and Al Zulfiqar (sponsored by Khad) was spreading terror.

What happened after Zia cannot be blamed on Zia..

Mujahideen like Hikmatyar, Ahmad Shah were not as religious and fundamentalists like Taliban(who rose After death of Zia)..

May Allah (swt) bless him
 
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