MPVs (Four 600 T, Two 1500T) for the PMSA - Discussions

[Bilal.]

How good is ship operationally if it has helicopter deck but no hanger, what is the usefulness is?

It’s meant for PMSA so it doesn’t need to have a helicopter on board all the time. It’s duties are more of policing.

 

[syed_yusuf]

It’s meant for PMSA so it doesn’t need to have a helicopter on board all the time. It’s duties are more of policing.

So it means that helicopter can be on boarded for emergency or operational needs but not carried all the time

 

[aziqbal]

the 4 x 600 Ton and 2 x 1,500 cutters for PMSA have added a big capability

not in terms of warships but in terms of freeing up the Pakistan navy to do these tasks

it now means that Navy warships can do what they were built to doing and not tied down to littoral water missions

adding the 2 x OPV also adds to this tally

so warships like Type 054AP will be able to provide air defence and cover where it is needed even far out at sea

its a bit like China building the 60+ x Type 056 corvettes now their FFG, DDG and CGs are free to roam far from shores and provide escort duty to carriers etc

 

[GriffinsRule]

It’s meant for PMSA so it doesn’t need to have a helicopter on board all the time. It’s duties are more of policing.

Would a helicopter not be beneficial in cases of distress calls or rescues, or even to check out illegal or suspicious vessels esp in cases of PMSA and Coast Guards?

 

[Bilal.]

Would a helicopter not be beneficial in cases of distress calls or rescues, or even to check out illegal or suspicious vessels esp in cases of PMSA and Coast Guards?

It has a helipad just not a hangar to always have a helicopter on board all the time. If it’s an urgent emergency situation then either a helicopter can come in from a land base and make use of the helipad or a navy ship can be called in to assist.

It’s a cost benefit balance. We can’t have everything on every vessel we operate.

 

[syed_yusuf]

Is there a way to operate a helicopter without the hanger from the ship permanently

 

[Yasser76]

Is there a way to operate a helicopter without the hanger from the ship permanently

Not really, and these ships will often operate so close to Pak coast that chopper on them would be a waste, pad just fro resupply/personnel movement

 

[aziqbal]

yeah pad is small

better make use of some rotary UAV, we should add a fleet of unmanned rotary wing to all our cutters

they would extend the surveillance greatly

our home grown engineers could come up with something pretty fast for the naval requirements

 

[Incog_nito]

Is PN going to place a follow-up order of those 1500 Tons OPVs?

 

[Aamir Hussain]

MSA has 12 OPV's with varying capabilities. A further 6 FRB's are also there for near shore intercept and patrolling.

I don't think there is a need to add further boats to the fleet unless plans are there to replace Barkat & Island class with more Hingol class vessels.

Both Hingol and Kashmir Class can be produced easily in Pakistan. They are not complex ships and can be upgraded with added features sans major structural changes when produced in KS&EW.

 

[imranyounus]

Kashmir class looks more promising. It is simple decent sized to operate both near shore or in open waters. PN must look at it as a future missile ship in place of Azmat class ship as pn is looking to improve missile capabilities. A larger than Azmat class ship will be needed to operate our future missile including hyper sonic and BM

 

[syed_yusuf]

When is the 2nd kashmir class expected to join

 

[syed_yusuf]

Do we know when last of the 1500 yon class MPV will be added ?

 

[khanasifm]

Do we know when last of the 1500 yon class MPV will be added ?

Patrol vessel built with Chinese help launched

The 1,500-tonne state-of-the-art Maritime Patrol Vessel was built for the Pakistan Maritime Security Agency (PMSA).

www.dawn.com

 

[syed_yusuf]

Awesome news, what is it's name first one was pmss Kashmir ?