Most of Pakistan isn't a part of the Indian sub-continent

[Surya 1]

To begin with Indian sub-continent should not be used. I have worn myself out here trying to explain to Paks not to fcukin use terms like India sub-continent, desi, Asian, Muslim and the other synonyms I hear. If we don't own the name 'Pakistan' nobody else will. Specifically with referance to Indian Sub-continent post 1947 that term should have been dropped. These are geographic descriptors and a more neutral term like South Asia should be used. Simply because the term 'India' was branded in 1947 by a nation state called Bharat. Thus to prevent any ambiquity and to be neutral all the states that occupy trhe region South Asia should be used.

With referance to what you say it's not entirely this simple. From tectonic point of view what you said true. But in human geography and even physical geography rivers tend to bind and not separate. Consider Ganga. You can' divide northern plains of Ganga from the souther plains. Similiarly Indus is one physical water system that includes good chunk of Afghanistan. Kabul River is a tributary of Indus as much as Jhelum is.

Where Pakistan should focus on is Indus River simply because one can see Pakistan is underpinned by it. Pakistan occupies most of the Indus Basin. Pakistan can be used as a synomym for Indus Basin. That is why I use that handle. Some of the Indus Basin does extend into Afghanistan, China and India but as the map below shows Pakistan is central to the Indus Basin. In fact in Pakistan you can't really escape from the Indus Basin.

You seem to be a very knowledgeable guy. My regards.

 

[Liquidmetal]

As much as I have seen here in Canada, Pakistani only call themselves Pakistani in private conversation among themselves. Officially they call themselves "Punjabi", "Indian", "Desi" etc.

U r talking bollocks mate, as usual stroking your tiny weener to get some nationalistic hard-on but explain the people who come out in their thousands with the green and white and chanting Pakistan Zindabad, when Pakistan wins the cup, or when it is Eid or some other major event. So please cut the crap and stop spreading false narratives. Cos you know I know a lot of Sikhs who hate India and want Khalistan and they live in Canada too and the UK and other parts of the world.

 

[PakSarzameen5823]

Are you drunk?

Lol

I only suggested such a term because the word "Aryan" has historically been used by Indics to refer to nobility.

Mohajirs???
We punjabis are Indian ancestry, Bajwa chattha jatt etc etc. So are the Sindhi. Only pushton and Baluch are Iranic.

You seem to have forgotten about all the Awans, Arains, Syeds, Qureshis and people with Dardic, Baloch or Pashtun ancestry who inhabit the Punjab and Sindh. These guys make up the majority. Not ex-Hindus.

Even ex-Hindu tribes like the Kamboj have origins from outside of the Indian sub-continent, and other groups like the Jats have sub-groups among them who also have origins from outside of the region.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

Mohajirs???
We punjabis are Indian ancestry, Bajwa chattha jatt etc etc. So are the Sindhi. Only pushton and Baluch are Iranic.

Punjabis make up less than 3% of india's population but around 60% of Pakistan's population. So at least 97% of india's population HAVE NOTHING in common with 100% of Pakistan's population in terms of race, physical appearence and genetics. But this is a moot point. 30% of Pakistan's population is Pathan and Baloch. They have dna from ancient Persian/Central Asian nomadic tribes. That doesn't make us Pakistanis; Persian or Middle Eastern just as it doesn't make us racially indian.

 

[Big Tank]

I only suggested such a term because the word "Aryan" has historically been used by Indics to refer to nobility.

Why do we even care about justifying that we're not Indians? Except the Punjabis who migrated from Lucknow and Urdu Speakers who migrated from Delhi, Bombai, Bihar etc.

Even Sindhis here are not Indians somehow, the Sindhi casts are ethnic Indus Valley based. Sindhis of Pakistan aren't the Sindhis in India. Even their Sindhi is different.

 

[BringHarmony]

U r talking bollocks mate, as usual stroking your tiny weener to get some nationalistic hard-on but explain the people who come out in their thousands with the green and white and chanting Pakistan Zindabad, when Pakistan wins the cup, or when it is Eid or some other major event. So please cut the crap and stop spreading false narratives. Cos you know I know a lot of Sikhs who hate India and want Khalistan and they live in Canada too and the UK and other parts of the world.

You do realize that a sports event does not last all year round, right? Its a one-off thing. People here in Canada and rest of the 'western' world do not live in fear of being called for any particular ethnicity. They call themselves whatever they want to suit their own agenda.

 

[PakSarzameen5823]

Why do we even care about justifying that we're not Indians?

I'm just hammering the point home even further, so people like @Musalman get the memo.

 

[Big Tank]

The Pakistani population consists of mostly Indo-Aryans. Pakistanis are 70% Caucasoid, 20% Australoid- Negroid, and 10% Mongoloid in their overall genetic composition. Indians are 50% Australoid-Negroid by race, 35% Caucasoid, and 15% Mongoloid in their overall genetic composition.

 

[PakSarzameen5823]

70% Caucasoid, 20% Australoid- Negroid, and 10% Mongoloid in their overall genetic composition.

Those terms are used to refer to skull types, not genetics.

 

[Big Tank]

Those terms are used to refer to skull types, not genetics.

Even by the genetics, except few punjabis and biharis. Pashtuns, Sindhis, Baluchis and Gilgitis got nothing to do with India. We're the civilization of Indus Valley not Ganga Valley Civilization.

 

[BringHarmony]

Even by the genetics, except few punjabis and biharis. Pashtuns, Sindhis, Baluchis and Gilgitis got nothing to do with India. We're the civilization of Indus Valley not Ganga Valley Civilization.

Aren't the "Punjabis" the biggest ethnicity in Pakistan? Almost all of the Pakistani --those who agree that they are Pakistani at least-- I have met here are Punjabi speaking and Punjabi looking folks. They look very similar to Indian here who call themselves "Desi". Most of the time they can understand each other's language too.

 

[Big Tank]

Aren't the "Punjabis" biggest ethnicity in Pakistan? Almost all of the Pakistani --those who agree that they are Pakistani at least-- I have met here are Punjabi speaking and Punjabi looking folks. They look very similar to Indian here who call themselves "Desi". Most of the time they can understand each other's language too.

That includes few Punjabis who migrated, most of the punjabis are ethnic.

 

[TMA]

No matter what majority of Pakistanis have Indian ancestry, so learn to live with it.

What do you mean, Pakistanis are the real Indians....

 

[BringHarmony]

That includes few Punjabis who migrated, most of the punjabis are ethnic.

I could figure that. Their food, their living, their language and even their occupations have a certain pattern to them. Punjabi is certainly a strong and large ethnicity spanning across borders and even religions.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

Aren't the "Punjabis" the biggest ethnicity in Pakistan? Almost all of the Pakistani --those who agree that they are Pakistani at least-- I have met here are Punjabi speaking and Punjabi looking folks. They look very similar to Indian here who call themselves "Desi". Most of the time they can understand each other's language too.

But Punjabis make up less than 3% of india's population so that is irrelevant. 30-40% of Pakistan's population have a racial/dna connection to Iran and afghanistan. That doesn't make us Pakistanis indian just as it doesn't make us Iranian, afghan or Middle Eastern.