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Moscow Museum of the American Indian Holocaust a Real Possibility

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A major museum dedicated to this would be devastating to America's image

Originally appeared at American Herald Tribune

A major push is underway to create in Moscow a Museum of the North American Holocaust. A counterpoint to the United States Holocaust Museum in Washington DC, the Russian Museum would highlight the grim history of the genocide that eliminated, pushed aside, and repressed First Nations on territories that gave rise to the existence of the United States and Canada.

The plan for the Museum is timely given the spotlight put on the genocidal history of North America as featured in the new Hollywood blockbuster, Revenant. On winning the Best Actor Award at the Golden Globe gala, American movie star Leonardo DiCaprio exclaimed. “I want to share this award with all the First Nations people represented in this film and all the Indigenous communities around the world. It is time that we recognized your history and that we protect your Indigenous lands… It is time we heard your voice.”




DiCaprio’s acceptance speech could be seen as a significant Hollywood response to the famous commentary delivered by Marlon Brando in 1973. In his refusal to accept the Oscar for Best Actor for his widely acclaimed performance in the title role in The Godfather, Brando chastised the Hollywood film industry. He accused it of recycling false and racist depictions of US-First Nations relations on the westward-moving frontiers of America’s transcontinental expansion.

Brando elaborated his position in The New York Times. In so doing he left behind a testimonial that could well make an excellent exhibit for the North American Holocaust Museum in Moscow. Describing the duplicitousness of US policy towards Indigenous peoples, Brando explained how federal officials repeatedly misled their Aboriginal counterparts. First Nations leaders were told by representatives of the White House, “Only if you lay down your arms, my friends, can we then talk of peace and come to an agreement which will be good for you.



Marlon Brando

Brando continued, “When they laid down their arms, we murdered them. We lied to them. We cheated them out of their lands. We starved them into signing fraudulent agreements that we called treaties. We never never kept our word in these treaties. We turned Native Americans into beggars on a continent that gave life for as long as life can remember. And by any interpretation of history, however twisted, we did not do right. We were not lawful nor were we just in what we did… It is given to us by virtue of our power to attack the rights of others, to take their property, to take their lives when they are trying to defend their land and liberty, and to make their virtues a crime and our own vices virtues."

“When they laid down their arms, we murdered them. We lied to them. We cheated them out of their lands. We starved them into signing fraudulent agreements that we called treaties. We never never kept our word in these treaties. We turned Native Americans into beggars on a continent that gave life for as long as life can remember. And by any interpretation of history, however twisted, we did not do right. We were not lawful nor were we just in what we did..."

Brando could see in this US treatment of First Nations the makings of a lethal pattern that has prevailed in the international community until this day. Of the USA Brando observed, “all that we have succeeded in accomplishing with our power is simply annihilating the hopes of the newborn countries in this world, as well as friends and enemies alike, that we're not humane, and that we do not live up to our agreements.”

The genocidal foundations of the United States were entrenched in its founding document. The American Declaration of Independence of July 4, 1776, referred to the “merciless Indian savages.” Thomas Jefferson and the Declaration’s other authors racially profiled as terrorists all First Nations blocking US western expansion. The Declaration of Independence’s ominous characterization of all Indigenous peoples as “savages” foreshadowed the US Indian wars. From this unrelenting assault on the imploding Indian Country emerged the expansionary aggression of the US military-industrial complex.

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Louis Riel, Centre, Hanged for Treason by the Canadian Government in 1885 for Leading the Defence of Metis Lands.

Ralph Applebaum Associates designed both the US Holocaust Museum and a sister Museum in Winnipeg Manitoba. The Canadian province of Manitoba was founded by Louis Riel. In 1885 the Canadian government hanged Riel for treason after he led a freedom movement of mixed-ancestry Metis who tried to protect their communities from being uprooted by the builders of the Canadian Pacific Railway.

Canada’s genocidal genesis is currently reflected in the disproportionate number of Native people suffering very high rates of incarceration, suicide, unemployment and poverty. The Idle No More Movement has brought this pattern of dispossession and disempowerment of the First Nations to worldwide attention. Idle No More’s mission will certainly be highlighted and advanced if the Russian initiative comes to fruition.

The Russian language petition for the Moscow Museum of the North American Holocaust has so far received almost five thousand signatures. The initiative is directed at enlisting the support of elected officials in the Russian Federation’s Public Chamber, of Russia’s President Vladimir Putin, and of Moscow’s Mayor Sergey Sobyanin. Valery Korovin, a member of the Public Chamber, was quoted in Russia Today indicating “the petition is timely and official support for it is very likely.”
 
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Moscow Museum of the American Indian Holocaust a Real Possibility

It's an ugly story


A major museum dedicated to this would be devastating to America's image

That "100 million" includes Native Americans in South and Central America and those who died from the Spanish in North America before there were even colonies.

So already there is a big distortion of the facts.
 
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That "100 million" includes Native Americans in South and Central America and those who died from the Spanish in North America before there were even colonies.

So already there is a big distortion of the facts.

And the museum will designate it as "Holocaust" without a specific political title such as "Holocaust by the United States" or "Holocaust by Canada." It is "American Indian Holocaust" as a historical reality with a focus on North America.

So, distortion is in your mind only.


Russia itself has to hide the Pogroms and what not.

Then you start your own "the Pogroms and what not Holocaust Museum" over in India.
 
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great effort...otherwise i am fed up with US propaganda.. On nuking japan's cities their narrative is...
"US saved 10 million lives by destroying hiroshima and nagasaki"
They assume w/o it war had prolonged and w'd have killed many more peopel.. so by killing million they save million..RETARDS
 
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And the museum will designate it as "Holocaust" without a specific political title such as "Holocaust by the United States" or "Holocaust by Canada." It is "American Indian Holocaust" as a historical reality with a focus on North America.

So, distortion is in your mind only.
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It's distortion if people are led to believe that the entire 100 million figure happened in North America since as you said they are focusing on it. If they are then only focusing on what is now Canada and the US it is odd they don't mention the area from Mexico to South America (where the Aztecs and Maya lived) since those were the areas where most of the North American slice of the "100 million" victims lived.
 
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Great move, everyone should remember how white americans killed hundreds of millions of native americans.
 
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Great move, everyone should remember how white americans killed hundreds of millions of native americans.

What is important is to change the discourse on create your own, my friend, and on this, Russia is a significant mentor to us in terms of their handling of US regime propaganda and Russian counter moves.

One brick at a time. This holocaust museum, if ever realized, will change perceptions and create an alternative discourse. It will not change everybody's perception. But, still, it will change some. That's what really matters.

Remember how then Secretary Rice came up with the term "Axis of Evil" back in 2003 (?).

Well, just as they have the right to designate names and characteristics (often false) upon others, we have every right (as long as we are powerful to stand down) to attribute characteristics upon them as we wish.

And they can only distort and badmouth, which make them look even more vulnerable.
 
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That "100 million" includes Native Americans in South and Central America and those who died from the Spanish in North America before there were even colonies.

So already there is a big distortion of the facts.
Besides:

1. 100 million is a high end estimate for the TOTAL population of indigenous american people.

The population figure for Indigenous peoples in the Americas before the 1492 voyage of Christopher Columbus has proven difficult to establish. Scholars rely on archaeological data and written records from settlers from the Old World. Most scholars writing at the end of the 19th century estimated the pre-Columbian population as low as 10 million; by the end of the 20th century most scholars gravitate to a middle estimate of around 50 million, with some historians arguing for 100 million or more.
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Given the fragmentary nature of the evidence, even semi-accurate pre-Columbian population figures are impossible to obtain. Scholars have varied widely on the estimated size of the indigenous populations prior to colonization and on the effects of European contact. Estimates are made by extrapolations from small bits of data. In 1976, geographer William Denevan used the existing estimates to derive a "consensus count" of about 54 million people. Nonetheless, more recent estimates still range widely.
Population history of indigenous peoples of the Americas - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

2. The fate of indigenous people is by and large a function of the spread of desease and epidemics, not of some deliberate extermination policy that warrents the use of the term holocaust.
Using an estimate of approximately 37 million people in 1492 (including 6 million in the Aztec Empire, 8 million in the Mayan States, 11 million in what is now Brazil, and 12 million in the Inca Empire), the lowest estimates give a death toll due from disease of 90% by the end of the 17th century (nine million people in 1650).
Although the exact pre-contact population of the Americas is unknown, scholars estimate that Native American populations diminished by between 80 and 90% within the first centuries of contact with Europeans. The leading cause was disease. The continent was ravaged by epidemics of diseases such as smallpox, measles, and cholera, which were brought from Europe by the early explorers and spread quickly into new areas even before later explorers and colonists reached them. Native Americans suffered high mortality rates due to their lack of prior exposure to these diseases. The loss of lives was exacerbated by conflict between colonists and indigenous people. Colonists also frequently perpetrated massacres on the indigenous groups and enslaved them
Indigenous peoples of the Americas - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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good news

That "100 million" includes Native Americans in South and Central America and those who died from the Spanish in North America before there were even colonies.

So already there is a big distortion of the facts.
not true
 
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good news


not true

Dude, the entire population of Indians in the US never reached close to that number.

That's like me the Soviet Communists have killed 3Billion people over the last 100 years.
 
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Dude, the entire population of Indians in the US never reached close to that number.

That's like me the Soviet Communists have killed 3Billion people over the last 100 years.

The 100 Million are a time period of 600 years
 
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The 100 Million are a time period of 600 years

You learning "New Math"
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2016 - 600 = 1416. Columbus didn't sail until 1492.

The Pilgrims (first colonists) didn't land in North America until 1620 (396 years ago)

However I figure the Spanish did most of the damage sometime between the two dates as they worked their way up from Central America past Mexico into the Western part of what would be the US.

Again the population of Native Americans in what is now Canada and the US was nowhere close to the population in the Mexico -> Central American area.
 
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