Featured Modi's 'settler' masterplan for Indian Kashmir

[waz]

Most who must have been given domicile certificates are actual residents of Kashmir - i.e. Ethnic Kashmiris. Btw, what's the story on the other side? Can Pakistanis from all over Pak settle in Pak Kashmir? Or that's not allowed?

And if someone moved there in the 1940s - after 70 odd years - what's the hassle if given residency status? They moved from Sialkot mostly.

And Gurkhas moved there in the 19th century from India/Nepal border region.

Domicile certificates makes their kids go to schools / colleges under quotas and avail state scholarships.

Comparing this to Israel is ridiculous.

No issue with that i.e. they have lived in Kashmir for ages and are communities from Kashmir i.e. Kashmiri Muslims, Pandits, Dogras etc.
The problem is all the rest who can apply and try to settle, but that's now also being opposed by the communities outlined above.
No you can't settle in AJK if you are from outside the region. The population has remained constant, in line with natural increases through the birth rate.

 

[Musings]

I am correcting this now brother, I've opened up the consultation with the team on the posts we've read on here. Thank you for your support.

No - we must thank you for your support and action. I want indian interaction and open debate but as a passionate patriot don’t see the need for us to allow them to hold a position of prominence - especially when they encourage soft trolling. I appreciate your time and effort to better the forum for us. Thanks again bro

 

[Jackdaws]

No issue with that i.e. they have lived in Kashmir for ages and are communities from Kashmir i.e. Kashmiri Muslims, Pandits, Dogras etc.
The problem is all the rest who can apply and try to settle, but that's now also being opposed by the communities outlined above.
No you can't settle in AJK if you are from outside the region. The population has remained constant, in line with natural increases through the birth rate.

It's not as if rest of Indians are falling over themselves saying "Hey let's move to Srinagar". As stated if a community (Gorkhas) is not ethnic Kashmiri but has been living there for 200 years because they were invited by the Maharaja as soldiers - there is nothing wrong. Ditto for those who fled Partition. And the others are civil servants who work there for a length of time.

Although I am not sure about the status of Ladakh. They are now separate UTs.

 

[waz]

It's not as if rest of Indians are falling over themselves saying "Hey let's move to Srinagar". As stated if a community (Gorkhas) is not ethnic Kashmiri but has been living there for 200 years because they were invited by the Maharaja as soldiers - there is nothing wrong. Ditto for those who fled Partition. And the others are civil servants who work there for a length of time.

Although I am not sure about the status of Ladakh. They are now separate UTs.

I understand that and have wrote about in the past i.e. it's probably the last place anyone will settle, unless you love guns, violence, ethnic strife, cross border artillery duels, military operations, targeted killings and so on.
The partition refugees i.e. those who fled to Jammu have the right anyway.

 

[Jackdaws]

I understand that and have wrote about in the past i.e. it's probably the last place anyone will settle, unless you love guns, violence, ethnic strife, cross border artillery duels, military operations, targeted killings and so on.
The partition refugees i.e. those who fled to Jammu have the right anyway.

Earlier they didn't. Nor did the Gurkhas.

 

[masterchief_mirza]

An excellent well thought out decision sir.
What I find mystifying is that this respected forum allows to give titles to those from across the border like “think tanks” and they encourage their retard brethren to soft troll? This thread is a perfect example of what I am suggesting.
Kashmir belongs to Kashmiri - the fulcrum to the argument is to allow the Kashmiri to decide whether they want to be part of Pakistan India or independent - anyone that has affinity or love for the land will accept this even if the decision is difficult to swallow.
Btw please mention to HQ when you have your internal discussions - have you ever seen a Pakistani given a position of respect on an indian forum? Serious flaw on PDF IMO
@masterchief_mirza @Pan-Islamic-Pakistan @PAKISTANFOREVER @Verve and the rest - am I alone in my thinking this is not right?

Sir your point is well made. For now, the weight of numbers is against us. The sheer volume of antagonistic posts against the simple logical conclusion that any sane human will reach regarding Kashmir (that they should exercise a referendum to determine their own destiny) is the problem Pakistanis and Kashmiris specifically must contend with. That said, we shouldn't simply censor this reality. In every corner of the world except Pakistan, they outnumber us. It is better to let them bark and pick and choose carefully how to use our more limited resources in response to their challenge.

It is a unique situation we face.

 

[masterchief_mirza]

Ditto for those who fled Partition. And the others are civil servants who work there for a length of time.

And what of those expelled from Jammu and murdered in Jammu in 1947? I think those demographics should also be restored to precisely what they were before the Dogra filth manipulated them through acts of population cleansing.

 

[waz]

Earlier they didn't. Nor did the Gurkhas.

Both groups have close links there, and with the Gurkhas I mean those settled from old times.

 

[waz]

And what of those expelled from Jammu and murdered in Jammu in 1947? I think those demographics should also be restored to precisely what they were before the Dogra filth manipulated them through acts of population cleansing.

100% true.

 

[Jackdaws]

And what of those expelled from Jammu and murdered in Jammu in 1947? I think those demographics should also be restored to precisely what they were before the Dogra filth manipulated them through acts of population cleansing.

Anyone who is ethnic Kashmiri should have that right. What Dogra rulers or any rulers did before the Dominion of India took over has little to do with India. It's like asking the current Punjab Govt in Chandigarh or Central Govt. in Delhi - "What about the Jallianwala Bagh massacre?"

 

[pikkuboss]

Kashmir is an integral part of India. Kashmiris are also integral part of India. They are our brothers and sisters. I welcome them to my state West Bengal.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

An excellent well thought out decision sir.
What I find mystifying is that this respected forum allows to give titles to those from across the border like “think tanks” and they encourage their retard brethren to soft troll? This thread is a perfect example of what I am suggesting.
Kashmir belongs to Kashmiri - the fulcrum to the argument is to allow the Kashmiri to decide whether they want to be part of Pakistan India or independent - anyone that has affinity or love for the land will accept this even if the decision is difficult to swallow.
Btw please mention to HQ when you have your internal discussions - have you ever seen a Pakistani given a position of respect on an indian forum? Serious flaw on PDF IMO
@masterchief_mirza @Pan-Islamic-Pakistan @PAKISTANFOREVER @Verve and the rest - am I alone in my thinking this is not right?

I honestly can't believe PDF allows this. Pakistanis are far too hospitable to those who wish for our extermination. Do you think our hospitality would ever be reciprocated on an indian forum?............

 

[masterchief_mirza]

Anyone who is ethnic Kashmiri should have that right. What Dogra rulers or any rulers did before the Dominion of India took over has little to do with India. It's like asking the current Punjab Govt in Chandigarh or Central Govt. in Delhi - "What about the Jallianwala Bagh massacre?"

Ethnic cleansing carried out to manipulate the direction a state will accede towards (by simply eliminating opposing opinion) is actually everything to do with both stakeholders the Dominion of India and the Dominion of Pakistan. Jammu and Kashmir was a princely state - did you know that? - whose destiny was to be decided by its chieftain, taking popular opinion into account. By eliminating opposing opinion, he was able to take a certain decision over another.

 

[PakFactor]

I honestly can't believe PDF allows this. Pakistanis are far too hospitable to those who wish for our extermination. Do you think our hospitality would ever be reciprocated on an indian forum?............

@ Waz

I'm one of those who agree with other brothers that those non-Pakistani's shouldn't be given such titles who themselves are mods and operators of other forums that malign Pakistanis' on a daily basis -- need a deep introspection of this on the forums part -- and the titles yanked.

 

[terry5]

any Kashmiris here or is it just Indians yapping on about my country .

many Hindu Indian bodies are being killed like dogs ,cremated who tried to settle in Kashmir and many more will as they Hindus say thryll reincarnate as tomatoes on Pakistanis dinner plates ( they say Hindus not me lol Mumbo jumbo from the land of the loonies )

these little Squatters from Hindustan are timid coward weak malnutritioned Shit dwellers protected by 1 million occupying forces acting against all international law and news is being suppressed by Indian news outlets of how many of its citizens are dying in Kashmir .