Moderinization and increasing PN Fleet size ...

[hasnainfirst]

Over the last few years importance of a strong navy has increased due to circumstances such as increase of territorial water area, New economic sea ports set up , creation of a economic zone in the Arabian sea . So to defend these economic interests of Pakistan the Navy's budget was further increased and multiple projects have begun and completed to increase Pakistan's naval power.



Modernization :

Over the span of last 5 years Pakistan navy has underwent extensive modernization increasing it's current existing fleets operational capabilities ,further strengthening the Naval air arm and developing state of the art weapon systems such as the Babur cruise missile. All this modernization is done while keeping in mind the new assets arrival.



A few examples of projects are



* Installing better EW/SAR systems on naval helicopters along with arming them with state of the art anti ship missiles

* Installing newer EW/SAR systems on Naval fixed wing aircraft such as the P-3C Orions and installing such equipment along with torpedo's on previously only transport aircraft such as the ATRs

* Upgrading the Submarines , in the last five years Pakistan Submarine fleet also underwent upgrades , such as replacing fairly old 1990s tech with newer systems and again this year the Khalid Class are under going further upgrades in Turkey.

* Over all , all of Pakistan's Navy surface vessels underwent upgrades such as Al-Tariq class Frigates, or Jalalat class Facs underwent installment of new defence systems while getting armed with newer more advanced cruse missiles.

* Improvement of training courses , the navy from around 2010 increased the standards of personnel it recruited with more selective approach during testing. After that the over all training quality of the chosen personnel was improved by adding in new courses and simulated sources using state of the art training facilities. The ground fighting forces ( Marines , Naval security force and naval military police were also modernized by upgrades in equipment. Their operational effectiveness is further are reinforced by the experience gained by combating heavily armed militants.

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Increasing Pakistan Navy fleet size



Using the new increase budget and connections with close allies the Pakistan navy after a long time is having a large scale inductions of new ships to increase the total Naval fleet size. Following are the new Ships, Subs and Aircraft that have been confirmed by naval sources till now



2 x Swift class corvettes ( USA )

4 x ADA class corvettes ( Turkey )

4 x Type 054A Frigate's ( China )

8 x S20 class Submarines ( China )

6 x Type 22 FAC ( China )

6 Azmat class FAC ( Pakistan )

1 × FAC(M) Fast attack craft ( Pakistan )

1 x CSTC 1500 Ton coastal patrol ship

2 × Damen OPV 1800

2 × Damen Stan Patrol boats

°Other utility Ships and boats like smaller coastal patrol ships dredgers , barges etc are also undergo production for the navy °



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JF-17 block 3



°Additionally the JF-17 Block 3 is also being developed which will enter service with both the Navy air arm and Air force replacing the Mirage fighter jets °

 

[SSGcommandoPAK]

Over the last few years importance of a strong navy has increased due to circumstances such as increase of territorial water area, New economic sea ports set up , creation of a economic zone in the Arabian sea . So to defend these economic interests of Pakistan the Navy's budget was further increased and multiple projects have begun and completed to increase Pakistan's naval power.



Modernization :

Over the span of last 5 years Pakistan navy has underwent extensive modernization increasing it's current existing fleets operational capabilities ,further strengthening the Naval air arm and developing state of the art weapon systems such as the Babur cruise missile. All this modernization is done while keeping in mind the new assets arrival.



A few examples of projects are



* Installing better EW/SAR systems on naval helicopters along with arming them with state of the art anti ship missiles

* Installing newer EW/SAR systems on Naval fixed wing aircraft such as the P-3C Orions and installing such equipment along with torpedo's on previously only transport aircraft such as the ATRs

* Upgrading the Submarines , in the last five years Pakistan Submarine fleet also underwent upgrades , such as replacing fairly old 1990s tech with newer systems and again this year the Khalid Class are under going further upgrades in Turkey.

* Over all , all of Pakistan's Navy surface vessels underwent upgrades such as Al-Tariq class Frigates, or Jalalat class Facs underwent installment of new defence systems while getting armed with newer more advanced cruse missiles.

* Improvement of training courses , the navy from around 2010 increased the standards of personnel it recruited with more selective approach during testing. After that the over all training quality of the chosen personnel was improved by adding in new courses and simulated sources using state of the art training facilities. The ground fighting forces ( Marines , Naval security force and naval military police were also modernized by upgrades in equipment. Their operational effectiveness is further are reinforced by the experience gained by combating heavily armed militants.

°==================================°



Increasing Pakistan Navy fleet size



Using the new increase budget and connections with close allies the Pakistan navy after a long time is having a large scale inductions of new ships to increase the total Naval fleet size. Following are the new Ships, Subs and Aircraft that have been confirmed by naval sources till now



2 x Swift class corvettes ( USA )

4 x ADA class corvettes ( Turkey )

4 x Type 054A Frigate's ( China )

8 x S20 class Submarines ( China )

6 x Type 22 FAC ( China )

6 Azmat class FAC ( Pakistan )

1 × FAC(M) Fast attack craft ( Pakistan )

1 x CSTC 1500 Ton coastal patrol ship

2 × Damen OPV 1800

2 × Damen Stan Patrol boats

°Other utility Ships and boats like smaller coastal patrol ships dredgers , barges etc are also undergo production for the navy °



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JF-17 block 3



°Additionally the JF-17 Block 3 is also being developed which will enter service with both the Navy air arm and Air force replacing the Mirage fighter jets °

Good thread but I don't think PN will acquire BLK IIIs,rather there will be dedicated PAF squadrons to provide PN cover during engagements.

 

[Muhammad Omar]

Come on dude we don't need Aircraft carrier instead

More Frigates
More corvettes
Few Destroyers
Planes like P-8
EW/SAR helicopters new ones should be preferred then Aircraft Carrier


You need a Fleet of ships and couple of Submarines to protect the asset and what type of jets will land on that aircraft carrier JF-17??

 

[TOPGUN]

Good thread few corrections, 1- No swift ships from US already been talked about , 2- Where did you get info that we are getting 6 Type 22 FAC ? 3- You forget to mention and the new PN Fleet Tanker 4- There is no news nor source that stats that PN will get Block III Thunders the PAF has to get them first before the PN navel air arm, other then all looks like its in the works thanks.

 

[Haroon Baloch]

Whats up with so much diversity in the PN Fleet? This much diversity will result in poor serviceability rate due to spare parts. i don't want our navy to be end up like IAF with poor serviceability rate. I hope our Navy has done their homework. When we're done receiving the 8 Subs that we ordered from China, we should divert our attention in acquiring a Nuclear submarine.

 

[hasnainfirst]

Whats up with so much diversity in the PN Fleet? This much diversity will result in poor serviceability rate due to spare parts. We don't our navy to be end up like IAF with poor serviceability rate. I hope our Navy has done their homework. When we're done receiving the 8 Subs that we ordered from China, we should divert our attention in acquiring a Nuclear submarine.

Well , Navy knows what is good for them and whats not ...

 

[guest9999]

Ships like OPV, Swift, F-22P are floating pieces of scrap metal for barrage of BrahMos and the rest of IN firepower. I see no justification in wasting precious money in acquiring these ships. At a time when the enemy is building aircraft carriers, SSBN, destroyers, frigates, many corvettes, and investing heavily in sub-hunting fleet like P-8, PN has the bright idea to become an anti-drug & anti-piracy force?

Well , Navy knows what is good for them and whats not ...

I don't think so. Higher ups running military are not above error. History shows otherwise.

I think people need to start asking questions. otherwise, Pakistan will keep repeating costly mistakes like East Pakistan, Kargil, OBL Raid, etc.

 

[hasnainfirst]

Ships like OPV, Swift, F-22P are floating pieces of scrap metal for barrage of BrahMos and the rest of IN firepower. I see no justification in wasting precious money in acquiring these ships. At a time when the enemy is building aircraft carriers, SSBN, destroyers, frigates, many corvettes, and investing heavily in sub-hunting fleet like P-8, PN has the bright idea to become an anti-drug & anti-piracy force?

Well india isn't that mighty and their Aircraft carrier is just an old piece of scrap and the new one being build has been declared Useless by US Officials(don't know exactly when but i recall that i read an article about it) , half of their SUBS are falling apart(27 feb intrusion by indian sub and its detection) ...

Ships like OPV, Swift, F-22P are floating pieces of scrap metal for barrage of BrahMos and the rest of IN firepower. I see no justification in wasting precious money in acquiring these ships. At a time when the enemy is building aircraft carriers, SSBN, destroyers, frigates, many corvettes, and investing heavily in sub-hunting fleet like P-8, PN has the bright idea to become an anti-drug & anti-piracy force?


I don't think so. Higher ups running military are not above error. History shows otherwise.

I think people need to start asking questions. otherwise, Pakistan will keep repeating costly mistakes like East Pakistan, Kargil, OBL Raid, etc.

Well in some areas there is corruption in the navy to some extent , i mean how the hell is navy building 1st class bungalows retired officers and they are selling to civilians too ...

 

[Signalian]

No mention of Marines

 

[hasnainfirst]

No mention of Marines

Thread is not about the marines , its a different topic ...

 

[Imran Khan]

Good thread but I don't think PN will acquire BLK IIIs,rather there will be dedicated PAF squadrons to provide PN cover during engagements.

its bad idea common man we are making thunders not purchasing . we should have 50 fighters for PN role fully under PN .

 

[SSGcommandoPAK]

its bad idea common man we are making thunders not purchasing . we should have 50 fighters for PN role fully under PN .

Maybe after 5 years at the moment they don't have any plans and will keep on relying on PAF to provide air cover to naval assets.At the moment 2 PAF JF-17 squadrons are serving as PN naval air arm if I am not wrong.Indian Navy Mig29K are very lethal machines we are really underestimating their capabilities.

 

[Imran Khan]

Maybe after 5 years at the moment they don't have any plans and will keep on relying on PAF to provide air cover to naval assets.At the moment 2 PAF JF-17 squadrons are serving as PN naval air arm if I am not wrong.Indian Navy Mig29K are very lethal machines we are really underestimating their capabilities.

bro that is why i said 50 thunders under direct PN no need left right to ask for help . navy should have own air defense system now . why its need 5 years cant we make thunders ?

 

[SSGcommandoPAK]

bro that is why i said 50 thunders under direct PN no need left right to ask for help . navy should have own air defense system now . why its need 5 years cant we make thunders ?

Your point is totally valid but PN has exhausted all of its funds in recent procurement's,plus it will need a totally new setup and academy to train pilots and host the jets for naval air arm,that's why the delay will take place.

 

[Imran Khan]

Your point is totally valid but PN has exhausted all of its funds in recent procurement's,plus it will need a totally new setup and academy to train pilots and host the jets for naval air arm,that's why the delay will take place.

they already have aviation wing boss they need few small steps to be ready for first sqn .