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Arun Joshi, Hindustan Times
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Chokibal (Kupwara), February 25, 2008
First Published: 01:26 IST(25/2/2008)
Last Updated: 01:38 IST(25/2/2008)
Militants breach wall of snow on LoC


The Indian Army's worst fears have come true. Militants are now desperate enough to defy the high walls of snow to cross over to this side of the Line of Control (LoC).

The first such attempt was made this year — in Keran sector — on February 22. Two infiltrators were shot dead by the security forces.

If the first entry bid by militants in such high level of snow is any indication, 2008 might experience heavier infiltration.For miles there is nothing but snow in this area, 111 km from the summer capital Srinagar. The mountains look like an undulating ocean of snow - enchantingly beautiful for onlookers, but a big challenge for soldiers guarding the borders. The temperatures often dip to minus 10 or less.

Kashmir has experienced the heaviest snowfall in decades this year. Nanda post in Gulmarg sector received over 24-feet snow while Cheema post in the same sector got almost 17 feet. One would think it's humanly impossible to cross in such conditions. And yet, militants chose to make their first attempt at such a time.

This attempt was detected and neutralised, but this could well be the beginning, admitted an army officer.

It is for this reason that the soldiers have to be on guard 24X7.The security forces are expecting heightened activity this year at the LoC. Especially in view of the February 22 attempt, made despite the hostile terrain and round-the-clock vigil of Indian soldiers, who are under orders to shoot in case of any suspicious movement.

Col. Mathur, of the 15 Corps, attributed it to the "sheer desperation of militants."

Desperation for what? "These are foreign militants in pursuit of their agenda of global jihad," said the officer, who has
been monitoring cross-border activity.

“The most disturbing fact is that terror camps are still intact. Militants have been shifted to the launching pads. There are at least 26 of them in the sectors facing the Valley," the army officer said.

Not just the army, former militants are also getting similar inputs from across.

The infiltrators have to succeed once, but soldiers have to be successful 100 per cent.A former militant leader, now an over ground activist, told Hindustan Times: "When I was in Pakistan last year, I asked ISI officers why they keep sending militants to Kashmir despite the ceasefire and the Indo-Pak dialogue. Their answer was: We cannot dismantle our infrastructure which took us 50 years to put together." The militancy plan in Kashmir did not come about in 1987 or 1988. "It started long ago," the militant leader was told.


That explains why the infiltration is still on. And why our soldiers need to be on guard 24x7.

"The infiltrators have to succeed once, but soldiers have to be successful every time. There is no room for error," the Army officer said.

The snow will melt by May-June. The thick snow would have, by then, inflicted heavy damage to the fence. It'll take two to three months to repair it. By then it'll be October, when snow again starts in the upper reaches of the Valley.

The interregnum period will be ideal for infiltration, since many areas will virtually have no fencing on the LoC. That's the time the security forces face their biggest challenge.
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^^^Gives us clues about the functioning of ISI.

They are unwilling to dismantle the infrastructure in spite of the ongoing peace process.

Another explanation might be, that Mushy et al simply asked the ISI to go slow for the time being...
 
Let us be pragmatic.

It takes time, money, organisation, skills and many other aspects to build thriving insurgency.

It also means employment, a 'finger' on the political and security environment of an adversary that can be waxed and waned at will, as also, keeping belligerent bad hats and criminals out of one's country. In this connection, it maybe added that it also gainfully employs the Mujahideens of Afghanistan and out of Pakistan and FATA.

It also allows 'fiddling' of funds by elements that require extra money and slush funds are 'unaccountable'.

To believe that organisation so built painstakingly with so many worthwhile spin offs will be folded up just because of some dialogue has just started and is yet to show positive results, would hardly be a correct surmise.
 
The infiltrators have to succeed once, but soldiers have to be successful 100 per cent.A former militant leader, now an over ground activist, told Hindustan Times: "When I was in Pakistan last year, I asked ISI officers why they keep sending militants to Kashmir despite the ceasefire and the Indo-Pak dialogue. Their answer was: We cannot dismantle our infrastructure which took us 50 years to put together." The militancy plan in Kashmir did not come about in 1987 or 1988. "It started long ago," the militant leader was told.

Lol this line seems to be typically from an indian movie where villains(pakistanies) are known for telling all of their plans out on the phone or somewhere where an indian hero can hear them loud and clear.:disagree:
 
Lol this line seems to be typically from an indian movie where villains(pakistanies) are known for telling all of their plans out on the phone or somewhere where an indian hero can hear them loud and clear.:disagree:

Wow mate so you watch them actually:cheers:


Hmm at least what is happening in the tribal region between Pakistan Army and .militants should be an eyeopener for all that terrorist infrastructure exist in Pakistan or at least we can note the recent terrorist attacks in the cities..

Since Pakistan is not blaming India for this, then where in the heaven do these people come from....
 
Wow mate so you watch them actually:cheers:


Hmm at least what is happening in the tribal region between Pakistan Army and .militants should be an eyeopener for all that terrorist infrastructure exist in Pakistan or at least we can note the recent terrorist attacks in the cities..

Since Pakistan is not blaming India for this, then where in the heaven do these people come from....

First of all to know what kind of BS is really shown in the indian movies, one doesnt really have to watch the movie.
Secondly about your point of whats happening in the tribal areas, lets not forget thats its not happening because of some sort of terror networks in pakistan but because of what is happening on the other side of the border. Tailban are a part of afghanistan and no peace can be made without involving them in the peace procress and that is not happening at the moment so it has reprecussions.
About india, dont get too cocky, pakistan has repeatedly expressed concerns over groing indian so called consulates in afghanistan and their continue involvement with antistate elements such as the BLA.
 
Pakistan reminds Kabul of Kashmir’s disputed status

Pakistan reminds Kabul of Kashmir’s disputed status


Sunday, April 13, 2008
By Qudssia Akhlaque

ISLAMABAD: Afghan Defence Minister Abdul Rahim Wardak’s visit to the Indian Held Kashmir on Friday along with a six-member delegation raised eyebrows in the diplomatic circles here and Islamabad moved swiftly to remind Kabul of the disputed status of the territory.

"We have conveyed to the Afghan side that they need to appreciate the international status of Kashmir as a disputed territory," Foreign Office spokesperson Mohammad Sadiq told The

News when asked about Pakistan's position on the visit.

He, however, did not go into the specifics of when, where and at what level this concern was conveyed to the Afghan government.

In a signal that Pakistan may not actually be too pushed about it, he remained non-committal on the question of whether Islamabad also planned to raise the issue with India. Wardak, who is on a week-long visit to India, is the first Afghan minister to be taken to the internationally-recognised disputed territory in 30 years, a clear signal of deepening of Indo-Afghan strategic ties. The stated purpose of his visit, which is said to carry much symbolism, is to draw lessons from India's 'success story' of countering insurgency and fighting the "mutual threat" of terrorism.

In another sign of growing military cooperation with India, the Afghan defence minister indicated that military officials from his country could soon visit the disputed territory to learn from the Indian experience in fighting militancy.

IRNA, the official news agency of Iran, reported that on arrival in Srinagar on Friday, the Afghan defence minister was taken to Badamibagh where he was given presentation on Indian Army's anti-militancy operations and briefed by top military commanders.

"The very fact that the Afghan defence minister is being taken to Kashmir indicates the significance of the visit and the underlying message that will go across to Pakistan," noted IRNA on the eve of the visit.


I wonder what the message from the Afghan govt. to Pakistan is, by this visit ?

Regards
 
One thing is for sure this current afghan regime is too much of india centric to be considered friendly at all or atleast a government with which pakistan can hope to normalize relationship. Now the question arrises what are we going to do about it and we realy donot have much of the option left as long as the US and NATO is present there however what we can do is that block this pashtun **** going on from across the border and sent back all afghanies back to their home sweet home. Too bad the new government doesnt seem to acknowledge this fact that sooner the afghans go back the better it would be for pakistan and the afghani government will get a clear message that we too mean business specially when they will have to take care of hundred of thousands of afghans which for solong pakistan is doing. These no good bastards.
 
Pakistan reminds Kabul of Kashmir’s disputed status

Pakistan reminds Kabul of Kashmir’s disputed status


Sunday, April 13, 2008
By Qudssia Akhlaque

ISLAMABAD: Afghan Defence Minister Abdul Rahim Wardak’s visit to the Indian Held Kashmir on Friday along with a six-member delegation raised eyebrows in the diplomatic circles here and Islamabad moved swiftly to remind Kabul of the disputed status of the territory.

"We have conveyed to the Afghan side that they need to appreciate the international status of Kashmir as a disputed territory," Foreign Office spokesperson Mohammad Sadiq told The

News when asked about Pakistan's position on the visit.

He, however, did not go into the specifics of when, where and at what level this concern was conveyed to the Afghan government.

In a signal that Pakistan may not actually be too pushed about it, he remained non-committal on the question of whether Islamabad also planned to raise the issue with India. Wardak, who is on a week-long visit to India, is the first Afghan minister to be taken to the internationally-recognised disputed territory in 30 years, a clear signal of deepening of Indo-Afghan strategic ties. The stated purpose of his visit, which is said to carry much symbolism, is to draw lessons from India's 'success story' of countering insurgency and fighting the "mutual threat" of terrorism.

In another sign of growing military cooperation with India, the Afghan defence minister indicated that military officials from his country could soon visit the disputed territory to learn from the Indian experience in fighting militancy.

IRNA, the official news agency of Iran, reported that on arrival in Srinagar on Friday, the Afghan defence minister was taken to Badamibagh where he was given presentation on Indian Army's anti-militancy operations and briefed by top military commanders.

"The very fact that the Afghan defence minister is being taken to Kashmir indicates the significance of the visit and the underlying message that will go across to Pakistan," noted IRNA on the eve of the visit.


I wonder what the message from the Afghan govt. to Pakistan is, by this visit ?

Regards

That Durand Line is a dispute too!
 
That Durand Line is a dispute too!

Yes and that is why its still discussed and Pakistan has not put a permanent boundary around it...I do not see any double standards on the part of GoP at least.
 

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