Merging Afghanistan With Pakistan

[Rahi812]

Can PAK and AF be a single united federation? Both are sunni majority and it would result in a powerful muslim state. Also it would help in the economic and social stability of AF. The only impediment i see is the tribal culture, feudalism and nationalism. Alas common sense goes out the window when it comes to tribalism and nationalism.



I always wondered what would have happened if united PAK had good leaders post-47. May be a huge union of AF-PAK-BD-Maldives-Arakan would be a reality today. That kind of union would have been perfectly inline with TNT considering the fact that all the states were also former british colonies.

It is a long way to go for such a merger. Pakistan right now has to deal with lots of its internal threats and issues. Poverty is on the rise in Pakistan and this is a big issue. Merger's, union and alliance come when countries are economically strong.

Emerging regional scenario’s implications for Pakistan | Pakistan Today

 

[Charon 2]

Pakistan should demand uyghu areas from her friend china

If there is a country who has the right to annex Uyghur areas than it's definitely Uzbekistan

 

[Luffy 500]

Exactly!

Afghanistan is a mess of tribal and ethnic rivalries, and Pakistan is heading in that direction.

Any union of Afghanistan and Pakistan would be like a nuclear reaction (no pun intended). The union would immediately split up along ethnic lines into independent Pukhtunistan, Punjab, Sindh, Baluchistan etc. The remaining parts would merge into CARs like Tajikistan, etc.

That's what i meant. And the root cause of all this is tribalism and nationalism. Nationalism is just a modern form of tribalism and one of the majors reason for the subjugation muslim states r going through.

It is a long way to go for such a merger. Pakistan right now has to deal with lots of its internal threats and issues. Poverty is on the rise in Pakistan and this is a big issue. Merger's, union and alliance come when countries are economically strong.

Emerging regional scenario’s implications for Pakistan | Pakistan Today

What's more important IMO is good leadership.

 

[Kompromat]

Something inevitable.

@Hyperion

Pakistan should demand uyghu areas from her friend china

Under what pretext? - Afghanistan and Pakistan have spent centuries under singular political entities, while we have never been in sync with Uyghurs. Having said that, the Uyghur Muslims if that is the point you are trying to articulate than they are MUCH better off being with the next superpower than independent or with Pakistan.

 

[Abu Zolfiqar]

So, what do you suggest, as per my own observation, Afghans seems very hostile to Pakistan and see their Afghan identity much more authentic than that of Pakistan.

not all of them are hostile......just misguided ones who've been fed incorrect information or those who are more emotional than rational.

afterall - emotions and irrational behaviour have been their main folly....countries like Iran and Pakistan have been the most generous to these people and yet we are both often at the receiving end of the diatribes of a few of these very same aforementioned misguided people

Most Afghans just want a better future - many of these Afghans found a better future in Pakistan and are actually doing quite well in life. Without Pakistan's support, they'd be much worse off.

as for identity - our identity is perfectly intact and Afghans (like the indian) are probably the last people to teach us about what is nationhood. Your speculation is invalid, you should review it.

are you going to divide pashtuns who have family ties? just like kashmir?

we dont require indian concerns on this....I say this as a Pashtun

more relevantly - the border is fairly porous. Thousands criss cross every day.

Durand line has nothing at all to do with Kashmir conflict/issue

Pashtuns revolted against durand line only once, in 1879 ,in which British had to mobilize 110,000 troops to suppress the rebellion in NWFP and tribal areas. After that, common tribesmen got used to the division and after 117 years, they wont object over sealing of border. Pak-afghan border was also sealed in 1961 and it had devestating effect on economy of Afghanistan. As compensation, Afghanistan got closer to russia for trade and basic items. This proved disastrous for Afghanistan in 1977. So a single case of sealing of durand by pakistan led to the ultimate destruction of afghanistan and 4 decades long war.

it was sealed because of Afghan military mis-adventures which cost them so dearly and caused them (their government) serious embarassment

what sealed the deal was the fact that it was Pashtuns (of Bajaur) who protected Pakistan against the illegal incursion - which was later repelled through the use of force

 

[Samandri]

not all of them are hostile......just misguided ones who've been fed incorrect information or those who are more emotional than rational.

afterall - emotions and irrational behaviour have been their main folly....countries like Iran and Pakistan have been the most generous to these people and yet we are both often at the receiving end of the diatribes of a few of these very same aforementioned misguided people

Most Afghans just want a better future - many of these Afghans found a better future in Pakistan and are actually doing quite well in life. Without Pakistan's support, they'd be much worse off.

as for identity - our identity is perfectly intact and Afghans (like the indian) are probably the last people to teach us about what is nationhood. Your speculation is invalid, you should review it.



we dont require indian concerns on this....I say this as a Pashtun

more relevantly - the border is fairly porous. Thousands criss cross every day.

Durand line has nothing at all to do with Kashmir conflict/issue



it was sealed because of Afghan military mis-adventures which cost them so dearly and caused them (their government) serious embarassment

what sealed the deal was the fact that it was Pashtuns (of Bajaur) who protected Pakistan against the illegal incursion - which was later repelled through the use of force

Dont lecture me on history, grandson of turangzai, badshah gul as well as khan of jandul had invited Afghanistan. Operation also took place against locals in Dir-bajaur. Remember that it was in the 1960 that pro-governament bajauri lashkar who opposed Afghan tribesmen and soldiers aided by separatist bajauris. Army quicky took over and used F-86 sabre against invaders. Next year , in 1961, Afghans made another attempt. This time army was ready and not only bombarded bajaur with air force but also afghan villages. After that border was sealed and daud khan was forced to give resignment for misadventure.

 

[Menace2Society]

You do merger with Afghanistan and you will be spending your entire budget fighting civil wars every year.

The fabric of Pakistani society has already been disturbed by Afghan refugees. These people are not loyal and extreme to the point of a mental disorder, ethnic centric. I find it vile how they think about the topic of race.

We have nothing in common with Afghans anymore. Move on.

 

[SQ8]

@Irfan Baloch @Hyperion @Icarus @MilSpec

 

[Armstrong]

@Irfan Baloch @Hyperion @Icarus @MilSpec

Bhai ko nahin tu nei mention kiyaaa....lagtaa hai that I'm not part of the gang anymore !

 

[SQ8]

Bhai ko nahin tu nei mention kiyaaa....lagtaa hai that I'm not part of the gang anymore !

You're like the token butt dude who gets shot early in the movie.

 

[CRISP]

It would be better if we merge India and Afghanistan together, into Pakistan with Islamabad as its capital...!

 

[Genghis khan1]

 

[Zibago]

Loye Pakistan would love to troll Afghanis next time they use loy Afghanistan shit on our pages

 

[Kambojaric]

I think we have a higher chance of successfully merging with Paraguay than with Afghanistan ! Generations over there have been brainwashed to hate us.

 

[Genghis khan1]

Loye Pakistan would love to troll Afghanis next time they use loy Afghanistan shit on our pages

Yap, Save it, and paste it next time you see any Afgani babbling around.