meet major general nigar khan

[krash]

Ah what? so just because someone writes something without a single reference or narration has to be believed? Ayesha RA was there as moral support and not as a battle commander who gives orders, In Islam, women were granted specific roles in society, hence there are certain thing which they can not do, like become a Caliph or Lead the Prayer, if someone did not happen in the times of Prophet and his 4 Rightly guided caliphs, later on, whoever tries to distort religion will be answerable to Allah.

There is a wisdom behind such decision made by Allah, Imagine the battle of Camel was fought between Muslims and on the other side there was some non-Muslim Army, And Hazrat Ayesha RA was captured, Nau zubillah, Allah has said in Quran strictly that Prophet's wives are the mother of all believers and they are not supposed to be seen by non-Mehram, imagine if a Non-Muslim army capture one of the ummha tul Mumineen and disrespect them in front of the whole world, Similar incident happens when the Rebels and scums murdered Uthman RA and they refused to bury his body, then one of the Prophet's widow came to Masjid Al Nabwai and threaten the Muslims that if they did not let us bury Uthman RA than she will take off her veil/Hijab and run on the streets of Madina burying Uthman RA herself, and some Sahahab believed that if she actually did that Than Allah would've unleashed his wrath upon the city like never before.

War is always a 50/50 game, any Army can lose to the other and back in the days and even in modern times we saw what Armies do with War Prisoners, Rape and Body mutilation is not a secret, Every Army who has ever fought a war in modern times have done horrible crimes against the women, and children, that is one of the reasons Allah has to divide the roles of Both men and women, those roles that are prescribed to Men, it's best that they do their part, and those roles and duties which are prescribed by Allah to Women's its best that they do theirs, when women and men start competing in the name of equality, hey If men can be Special forces we (Women) can be, that is now how things work in Islam, yes modern Western Countries that is how Feminists and Progressives see it but things that are Part of Islamic history, Hadith, Quran can not and will not be changed.

As for the Topic, Yes it is good that one woman based on her hard work and determination achieved this position, but I doubt that GHQ will send her to the front lines in any battle against the Indians.

What you read is the abstract......Had you had enough sense to read even just the abstract twice you would have realized that the book contains all the references, narrations, and historical accounts you would need on the incident. It also has accounts of other Muslim women whose lives stand against your fabricated claims. Instead of quoting a two year old post only to concoct religious decrees from your couch against one of the most well documented incidents in Islamic history, read what you have been provided and educate yourself.

Until you do, there is no reason for me to waste my time. You are here to willfully corrupt your own religion to suit your own insecurities without knowing anything about it. I have learnt since long to identify lost causes. I have provided you all you need to correct your path, otherwise لَكُمْ دِينُكُمْ وَلِيَ دِين

whoever tries to distort religion will be answerable to Allah.

Isn't that the ironic truth.

 

[krash]

"religious talk is prohibited", it seems only when done correctly otherwise there is no prohibition (when done by half-read retard).

once my stalker banned me for telling bengalis -- who were insisting that dog keeping is haram in Islam-- that it is not by relating the story of the ahl e kahf/seven sleepers as well as rules for hunting with dogs or retrieval of prey --shot by hunter-- by dogs.

one weird from this!

The rule stands. However, I personally make an exception to the rule when someone misuses religion to spread their own agenda, furthering the rot in the country. Because then the matter leaves the realm of personal beliefs and turns into a societal issue. Someone needs to defeat their narrative before more fall victim to it.

 

[doorstar]

If you are talking about the Battle of Camel with Ali RA then, Amma Ayesha RA wasn't leading it, nor she was there to fight, she embarked on this journey as moral support to the cause of pushing Ali RA to take action against the killers of Uthman RA, if not for that battle of Camel which other battles Ayesha RA lead? mare presence of Women doesn't mean they are in lead, a similar example can be given that Women were allowed in Masjid in times of Prophet, but they weren't allowed to be Imam's or lead the Prayers.



Again, Advice is not equal to leading an Army.



Yes, he Appointed women as a Market inspector, but none of the Shura members from the Times of Prophet till Ali RA were Women.



Again you are conflicting taking Advice from women (who are no doubt great) with leading Armies. We take advice from our mothers, but in a conflict, we don't take our sisters or mothers to lead the fights.

look up Khawla bint al-Azwar, oh and please stop embarrassing Pakistan by not using its flag or just keep silent

 

[Goritoes]

look up Khawla bint al-Azwar, oh and please stop embarrassing Pakistan by not using its flag or just keep silent

Ignorance is abundant on this forum and you proof of that.

 

[El Sidd]

#Respekt
#Viel Erfolg

We need more of this.

 

[krash]

Ignorance is abundant on this forum and you proof of that.

Take it your rhetoric is enough to prove your undisputed wisdom and knowledge, or does it show the lack of integrity to admit when proven wrong?

 

[Goritoes]

What you read is the abstract......Had you had enough sense to read even just the abstract twice you would have realized that the book contains all the references, narrations, and historical accounts you would need on the incident. It also has accounts of other Muslim women whose lives stand against your fabricated claims. Instead of quoting a two year old post only to concoct religious decrees from your couch against one of the most well documented incidents in Islamic history, read what you have been provided and educate yourself.

Until you do, there is no reason for me to waste my time. You are here to willfully corrupt your own religion to suit your own insecurities without knowing anything about it. I have learnt since long to identify lost causes. I have provided you all you need to correct your path, otherwise لَكُمْ دِينُكُمْ وَلِيَ دِين



Isn't that the ironic truth.

As i said to the other member Ignorance is in the very high supply on this forum and perhaps the only Qualification to become a Mod, I told you there is no Law that directly prohibits but Women by the roles Assigned by Allah himself does not let them have a certain position, there is a reason why there were no Female Prophets, No Female Imams(Shia), No Female Caliphs and no Female Governors within the times of Prophet and his companions.

Plus what you are doing in whataboutism here, no one is passing judgments but there are things you don't need judgments to understand but history speaks for itself.

Take it your rhetoric is enough to prove your undisputed wisdom and knowledge, or does it show the lack of integrity to admit when proven wrong?

Proven wrong by who? under what Validity? and what evidence? LOL you are laughable, to say the least.

 

[krash]

As i said to the other member Ignorance is in the very high supply on this forum and perhaps the only Qualification to become a Mod, I told you there is no Law that directly prohibits but Women by the roles Assigned by Allah himself does not let them have a certain position, there is a reason why there were no Female Prophets, No Female Imams(Shia), No Female Caliphs and no Female Governors within the times of Prophet and his companions.

Plus what you are doing in whataboutism here, no one is passing judgments but there are things you don't need judgments to understand but history speaks for itself.

Yes....clearly everyone is ignorant, apart from the one guy who does not present anything except his own incoherent claims, unrelated statements, and illiterate rhetoric by terming them decrees "by Allah Himself" in matters which have more than a thousand years of scholarly debate and discussion between men and women who actually did know a thing or two about the religion and its history. Claims, rhetoric, and statements which are "facts" concocted at a moments notice by the same insecure, uneducated, and unashamed man who keeps conflating 'proof by contradiction' with "whataboutism". Clearly he is the authority on the religion, "whataboutism", and argumentation. Definitely not the deliberate corruptor out to distort religion to his view.

Proven wrong by who? under what Validity? and what evidence? LOL you are laughable, to say the least.

Validity by virtue of having enough integrity to recognize the evidence provided to you three times. Or at least the competence to read it or the hundreds of years long documentation against your claims by scholars you follow. Like I said, I learnt to recognize lost causes long ago.

 

[Itachi]

Nice name.

 

[doorstar]

Nice name.

how do fake Pakistani. it is not what your gutter mind thinks it is, it is نگار a Farsi word meaning:

1. a painting
2. a picture
3. beloved
4. a given first name for females

pronounced: ni gaar (negâr)

 

[El Sidd]

Nice name.

What's in the name? Call her Eve or Hawwa or any encryption you prefer or like.

 

[Goritoes]

Yes....clearly everyone is ignorant, apart from the one guy who does not present anything except his own incoherent claims, unrelated statements, and illiterate rhetoric by terming them decrees "by Allah Himself" in matters which have more than a thousand years of scholarly debate and discussion between men and women who actually did know a thing or two about the religion and its history. Claims, rhetoric, and statements which are "facts" concocted at a moments notice by the same insecure, uneducated, and unashamed man who keeps conflating 'proof by contradiction' with "whataboutism". Clearly he is the authority on the religion, "whataboutism", and argumentation. Definitely not the deliberate corruptor out to distort religion to his view.




Validity by virtue of having enough integrity to recognize the evidence provided to you three times. Or at least the competence to read it or the hundreds of years long documentation against your claims by scholars you follow. Like I said, I learnt to recognize lost causes long ago.

Tell me any name of Women Prophet, Women Imam, and Women Caliph Mr.Know All.

 

[krash]

Tell me any name of Women Prophet, Women Imam, and Women Caliph Mr.Know All.

As soon as you tell me what women prophets, women imams, and women caliphs have to do with the discussion at hand.

 

[Goritoes]

As soon as you tell me what women prophets, women imams, and women caliphs have to do with the discussion at hand.

My entire Argument from the beginning of my bholayy bhalay brother was based on that particular argument.

 

[Metal 0-1]

Her name kinda sounds like N word. Just saying.