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@Windjammer

The Pak Army COAS has visted LOC many times to keep the morale up
Because PA is under tremendous pressure from Indian Army

Note the number of times they have visited the LoC after September 29
( After SURGICAL STRIKES )

October 9, 2016 Gen Raheel Sharif visits the Haji Pir sector.

December 2, 2016 Gen Qamar Javed Bajwa makes his first visit to the LoC in Uri sector after visiting HQ X Corps in Rawalpindi.

February 21, 2017 Gen Bajwa visits troops on the LoC at Mattewala, Munaawar sector.

March 24, 2017 Gen Bajwa visits the LoC in Kel sector and forward posts at Sharda in Neelam Valley.

April 30, 2017 Gen Bajwa visits the LoC in Haji Pir sector

May 13, 2017 Gen Bajwa visits troops deployed along the LoC Line in Nakyal Sector.

June 10, 2017: Gen Bajwa visits Pakistani positions along the LoC in the Muzaffarabad Sector.

June 26, 2017: Gen Bajwa visits Pakistani positions along the LoC.

.just look at some of the Naxals hit on your security forces, dozens are killed in a single operation, now do naxals have artillery or missiles.....get your facts right before grasping straws.

Naxals fight with CRPF and in some areas Few Companies of BSF

We dont Use Artillery against Naxals and also NO AIR power

You have used Both Airpower and Artileery in FATA and Waziristan
 
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Their government knows how to control the sentiments of dumb public .
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Example : invisible sirjikal-strike . ( still no proofs)
 
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rest in peace to the truth. Indian relations with Pakistan is run by the Bollywood Kapoora mindset
watch it when these media outlets will report a story with footage to prove their claims whether or not that incident has even happened yet or called off.
Americans do the same and "leak" stories to their media. its all Psi-warfare its just that Indians are much crude and fail badly and look like Kapuras
 
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We dont Use Artillery against Naxals and also NO AIR power

You have used Both Airpower and Artileery in FATA and Waziristan
Naxals are armed with Double barrel rifles and often stolen weapons while TTP is armed with every bloody small arm an Army is going to use.
 
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@Windjammer

The Pak Army COAS has visted LOC many times to keep the morale up
Because PA is under tremendous pressure from Indian Army

Note the number of times they have visited the LoC after September 29
( After SURGICAL STRIKES )

October 9, 2016 Gen Raheel Sharif visits the Haji Pir sector.

December 2, 2016 Gen Qamar Javed Bajwa makes his first visit to the LoC in Uri sector after visiting HQ X Corps in Rawalpindi.

February 21, 2017 Gen Bajwa visits troops on the LoC at Mattewala, Munaawar sector.

March 24, 2017 Gen Bajwa visits the LoC in Kel sector and forward posts at Sharda in Neelam Valley.

April 30, 2017 Gen Bajwa visits the LoC in Haji Pir sector

May 13, 2017 Gen Bajwa visits troops deployed along the LoC Line in Nakyal Sector.

June 10, 2017: Gen Bajwa visits Pakistani positions along the LoC in the Muzaffarabad Sector.

June 26, 2017: Gen Bajwa visits Pakistani positions along the LoC.



Naxals fight with CRPF and in some areas Few Companies of BSF

We dont Use Artillery against Naxals and also NO AIR power

You have used Both Airpower and Artileery in FATA and Waziristan
Seems the little break hasn't done your pea size brain much good.
Going by your logic, the Chinese must be turning the screw tight on the Indian army since Bipin is touring the area and hell it must have been worse in Siachen as Modi himself went there.... not to mention the visits to IOK.
Your absent mind can't comprehend the fact that it's your army which claims and blames Pakistani BAT of carrying out operations inside Indian territory.... if your army was worth their Haldi Daal, they wouldn't need to put up fake videos of bunkers being blown up.
As for second part, again you have comprehension issues, the question is not whether you use air power or artillery, the fact is you lose more men fighting in the open ground then when fighting sitting in bunkers.
Jaffna is another example for you to keep in mind.
 
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Seems the little break hasn't done your pea size brain much good.
Going by your logic, the Chinese must be turning the screw tight on the Indian army since Bipin is touring the area and hell it must have been worse in Siachen as Modi himself went there.... not to mention the visits to IOK.
Your absent mind can't comprehend the fact that it's your army which claims and blames Pakistani BAT of carrying out operations inside Indian territory.... if your army was worth their Haldi Daal, they wouldn't need to put up fake videos of bunkers being blown up.
As for second part, again you have comprehension issues, the question is not whether you use air power or artillery, the fact is you lose more men fighting in the open ground then when fighting sitting in bunkers.
Jaffna is another example for you to keep in mind.

When ever Indian Army accuses Pakistan Army of an attack in Indian territory

Pakistan Army immediately DENIES it

Because they know what are the consequences going to follow

As I said earlier ; it is a war and we also have casualties

But the Question is
HOW much losses and how much damage has Pakistan suffered

Now the Funny thing inspite of so much losses
you are still NOT opening 155 MM guns

What does this show

1 That Escalation DOMINANCE is in Indian Army Hands

You must have heard of Escalation ladder and Escalation dominance

2 You have suffered enough damage with just 105 mm guns
120 MM mortars

Now what will happen if we open up 155 MM guns

We are Winning all the battles on the LOC
No matter how prolonged they are

And finally your SSG guys have also made several attempts to raid
in Indian Territory but they have only succeeded Twice ie Four Killed

Whereas Our Para Special forces killed Dozens of your guys in
Seven Locations on just one occasion

And even now small scale Para SF attacks are going on
in addition to Artillery and Infantry fire

Every time it is Pakistan Army that comes out on the loosing side

Indian Army has the Moral ASCENDANCY on the LOC
because we are Winning every time
 
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Media Lies Again With "Coverage' Of Indian Retaliation to Pakistan's Mutilation of Soldiers?

PRATIK SINHA

Wednesday, May 03,2017

NEW DELHI: On May 1, as reported by several Indian media outlets, Pakistan killed and mutilated two Indian security personnel along the Line of Control (LoC) in Poonch district of Jammu and Kashmir. A Pakistan border action team (BAT) crossed into Indian territory after being provided cover fire on Monday morning, killed two soldiers and beheaded their bodies in the Krishna Ghati sector of Poonch in Jammu & Kashmir. The personnel killed were identified as Naib Subedar Paramjit Singh of 22 Sikh and Head Constable Prem Sagar of the BSF 200 Battalion. [Source: Indian Express]

Soon after, multiple news channels started reporting that Indian Army destroyed 2 Pakistani posts and killed 7-10 Pakistani soldiers in retaliation. Aaj Tak’s report claimed that 2 posts namely Kirpan and Pimple had been destroyed in retaliation.



Aaj Tak was the first news channel to report on the issue of retaliation. Aaj Tak’s Facebook page first shared a report suggesting that 2 Pakistani army posts had been destroyed in retaliation. This post was shared on their Facebook page at 9:45 pm on May 1st. The same report was again shared at 11:21 pm on their Facebook page with the additional claim that 7 Pakistani soldiers have been killed.



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Screenshots of Aajtak’s report regarding retaliation by the Army were shared many times on social media. The screenshots show that Aaj Tak relayed their report at 9:10 pm (21:10) on their channel.



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Economic Times Journalist Manu Pubby who also reports on issues of defence, however, claimed that one of the two posts that Aaj Tak was claiming was demolished in retaliation is actually an Indian post and not a Pakistani post.



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India Today had initially named the Pakistani posts that they claimed were destroyed in their report. However, they quietly edited their report and removed the names of the posts. The initial archived version of the India Today report can be accessed here => http://archive.is/gZwbQ. In the archived version, Kirpan and Pimple posts are mentioned, but in the present version, they are not mentioned anymore. The screenshot below captures the change in India Today’s report, left one has been taken from the archived version, right is the present version.



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A report in Hindustan Times dated May 2nd now suggests that the retaliation never happened and that the TV channels went ballistic without confirmation. Following statement was given by a senior officer with the army’s northern command to Hindustan Times:

There was no retaliation whatsoever by us in the KG sector on Monday night. They (TV channels) go ballistic without asking us anything. We will retaliate and when we do, we will come out with an official statement.

However, it was not just the TV channels that went ballistic. Even a official spokesperson of the ruling Government started quoting this story of retaliation. In a panel discussion on Aaj Tak in which Paramajit Kaur, wife of Naib Subedar Paramjit Singh, was present, BJP Spokesperson Sambit Patra claimed that Indian Army has destroyed 2 Pakistani posts and killed 7 Pakistani soldiers. He stated this around 1:00 minute into the video below.



If the Hindustan Times report claiming that there was no retaliation by Army is indeed true, that would mean that the BJP spokesperson was lying to a martyr’s wife on live television. Sambit Patra repeated the claim in another show with Aajtak anchor Anjana Om Kashyap. At 40 seconds into the video below, Sambit Patra repeats the claim about 2 Pakistani bunkers being destroyed.



Besides Aaj Tak, the other channels that made elaborate reports on this issue of retaliation by Indian Army are Aajtak’s sister concern India Today, Zee News, ABP News and India TV.



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The video links to the four reports are as follows:

India Today –
Zee News – https://vimeo.com/215777991
India TV –
ABP News –

In print media, Dainik Jagran, who had recently published an illegal exit poll during UP elections, carried this story on their front page.



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Curiously, the recent reports by Aaj Tak and India Today which came out yesterday do not mention their own claim about the retaliation by Indian Army even once. This follow-up 9-minute report by Aaj Tak on this issue dated May 2nd talks about Army vowing to retaliate but does not once mention their own claims about Army already having retaliated. Did the army retaliation actually happen or did 5 national news channels and 1 major Hindi newspaper made it all up?

http://www.thecitizen.in/index.php/...taliation-to-Pakistans-Mutilation-of-Soldiers



An idiot will only rely on a anti-Govt blog. lol

Now ISPR is not enough as propaganda for this windy, he spent his life searching for these blogs. lol
 
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What a pathological liers. The swines terrorists kill Kashmiri civilians in fake encounters and fool their public.
 
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Following statement was given by a senior officer with the army’s northern command to Hindustan Times:

There was no retaliation whatsoever by us in the KG sector on Monday night. They (TV channels) go ballistic without asking us anything. We will retaliate and when we do, we will come out with an official statement.

Bhai you are wasting time ,may be you dont remember but when their army had issued statement back then that no retaliation has been made, then some indian posters had done a 180 degree cartwheel and said, "Such kind of reactions are never made public, if army has negated it , it means they are doing action but just that they want to keep it covert and hidden" , (something along these lines) LMAO.

( I am sure the know-it-all @hellfire who loves to write after every news "see i knew this and predicted this months ago , just collate my posts from october 1857 to december 1942 to december 2016 and see the connection" - can repeat the same lines in this thread too. LMAO )

Secondly, when their gov and army had fooled the public with TOTALLY UNBELIEVABLE surgical strikes tales then expect anything from their media ,any fake claims , fake assurances to their dead soldiers relatives or any kind of lies. Jab itna bara jhoot bola ja skata hai phir uskay baad yeh chotay motay jhoot are kiddies stuff.
And their public readily buys everything.

As of mention of pakistanis senators statement on hiding casualities. That guy Abid sher ali is a water ministry head, how on earth he is supposed to know about LOC, noone reports to him about it. He was just a tout used by PMLN leadership to mess with army, if anyone who could have made such statement he should have been Khawajah asif or Nisar chaudhary. This was a tussle between government and army due to dawn leaks tweet and may be panama too.
 
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An idiot will only rely on a anti-Govt blog. lol

Now ISPR is not enough as propaganda for this windy, he spent his life searching for these blogs. lol

And a moron like you doesn't have the brain to comprehend that apart from one government source all the other culprits are your national newspapers and media.
And it's not ISPR but the Bharti baboons who make all the racket from, cold start to surgical circus.
 
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You can cry "FAKE" fake while our amry blow your bunkers(with jawans) with AGTMs
 
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Bhai you are wasting time ,may be you dont remember but when their army had issued statement back then that no retaliation has been made, then some indian posters had done a 180 degree cartwheel and said, "Such kind of reactions are never made public, if army has negated it , it means they are doing action but just that they want to keep it covert and hidden" , (somethignalong these lines) LMAO.

( I am sure the know-it-all @hellfire who loves to write after every news "see i knew this and predicated this months ago , just collate my posts from october 1857 to december 1942 to december 2016 and see the connection" - can repeat the same lines in this thread too. LMAO )

Secondly, when their gov and army had fooled the public with TOTALLY UNBELIEVABLE surgical strikes tales then expect anything from their media ,any fake claims , fake assurances to their dead soldiers relatives or any kind of lies. Jab itna bara jhoot bola ja skata hai phir uskay baad yeh chotay motay jhoot are kiddies stuff.
And their public readily buys everything.

As of mention of pakistanis senators statement on hiding casualities. That guy Abid sher ali is a water ministry head, how on earth he is supposed to know about LOC, noone reports to him about it. He was just a tout used by PMLN leadership to mess with army, if anyone who could have made such statement he should have been Khawajah asif or Nisar chaudhary. This was a tussle between government and army due to dawn leaks tweet and may be panama too.
You sir, hit the nail on the head, it couldn't have been better described than how you put it.
@ TOPIC, one can't help admiring both the Indian media and armed forces as how they keep one billion Ostriches well tamed with their propaganda and lies.
 
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You sir, hit the nail on the head, it couldn't have been better described than how you put it.
@ TOPIC, one can't help admiring both the Indian media and armed forces as how they keep one billion Ostriches well tamed with their propaganda and lies.

You know why the Pak Army refuses to accept its losses and the Surgical strikes

Otherwise there will be Public Pressure to RETALIATE

Pak Army does not want this public pressure

After US raid for killing OBL ; there was lot of Criticism of the Army

That they consume resources but do not deliver
 
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This Denial by Pak Army suits India very much

We say that Pakistan is violating ceasefire

That is false ; we are attacking your Positions in a PRE EMPTIVE manner

We are totally dominating the LOC
 
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