Mazagon Dock looks at next sub project

[Aarush]

SOURCE : AJAY SHUKLA

Project 75 is one of India’s most closely guarded military projects, almost as inaccessible to outsiders as the nuclear ballistic missile submarine, INS Arihant, nearing completion in Visakhapatnam.
In a giant shed in the East Yard of Mazagon Dock Ltd, Mumbai (MDL), a 200-feet-long, cigar-shaped, metal cylinder is the first of six conventionally powered Scorpene submarines that the Indian Navy contracted to build with Franco-Spanish company, Armaris (since taken over by French shipbuilding major, DCNS).

The boat (as submariners call their vessels) is obviously close to completion – a small remaining gap at the rear will be filled by the section that holds the engine. Nearby, a second Scorpene is taking shape, metallic rings being welded together to form a hull. In the shed next door, a third vessel is racing towards completion.

Hundreds of MDL workmen swarm over the scaffolding that encases the three submarines, overseen by 25-30 French experts from DCNS. They are fitting the wiring, piping and combat systems that must function silently and efficiently in the most taxing underwater conditions.
Business Standard has repeatedly applied to visit this facility but has been turned down each time. The description above comes from a trusted source, with intimate access to the Scorpene project. The ministry of defence (MoD) discourages the media after years of negative publicity over a project running four years late.

Yet, MDL’s current chairman, Rear Admiral (Retired) Rahul Shrawat – who inherited the Scorpene delay when he assumed charge of MDL – is upbeat. He promises the first submarine by September 2016, and to deliver the next five Scorpenes at nine-month intervals rather than the one-year intervals contracted.

Speaking to Business Standard, Shrawat promised: “We will launch the first Scorpene by September 2015 and deliver it to the navy within a year, i.e. by September 2016. The subsequent boats will be delivered at nine-month intervals, with the sixth and final vessel joining the fleet by June 2020.

Shrawat admits this is an aggressive timeline without any buffers for unexpected delays. As Business Standard first reported (Scorpene tangled in govt web, December 19, 2009) Project 75 was delayed by a sloppy Rs 18,798 crore contract that made MDL responsible for buying Rs 2,700 crore worth of Scorpene internal equipment from DCNS. When MDL ordered, DCNS cited inflation to raise the price to Rs 4,700 crore. The ensuing negotiations, and the lengthy processes for fresh government sanctions for added costs, caused over two years of delay.

“Many significant items are yet to be delivered to us, even for the first submarine. This is a big criticality but we will meet the challenge,” says Shrawat confidently.

The Scorpene delay is part of a critical shortfall of operational submarines with the navy. The fleet has just 10 Sindhughosh-class (Russian Kilo-class) submarines, and four Shishumar-class (German HDW) submarines, of which just 9-10 were operational at any time. The availability fell to 7-8 after two recent submarine accidents – the sinking of INS Sindhurakshak in Mumbai after a cataclysmic explosion on board that killed 18 crewmembers last August; and a fire on board INS Sindhuratna in February that killed two officers and led to the resignation of the navy chief.

Even so, Project 75 has created confidence about MDL’s new ability to build submarines. The shipyard is readying to build a second line of six submarines under the new Project 75I, worth an estimated Rs 50,000 crore ($8.25 billion). Government sanction is being processed for Project 75I.

Rather than floating a global tender for Project 75I, Shrawat wants to take advantage of the experience and expertise gained during Project 75. Instead of having a fourth type of submarine in the navy’s fleet (in addition to the Kilo-class; HDW and Scorpene), MDL sees the benefit in a more modern Scorpene with air independent propulsion (AIP) and land-attack missiles that the Project 75 vessels lack. Only the last two Project 75 vessels are slated to have AIP.

“Most naval policymakers would not consider it prudent to have a fourth type of conventional submarine in the fleet. I’m sure the government will feel the same. So, why not build more Scorpenes; improved with AIP and land attack missiles,” says Shrawat.

The defence ministry, led by A K Antony for the last eight years, consistently shrank from such decisions in favour of a single vendor, preferring the path of open tendering even when it created operational drawbacks, like a multiplicity of platforms. The next government’s orientation will be keenly watched.

Another key factor in the Project 75I decision would be the willingness of foreign governments to supply submarines equipped with land attack missiles. The Missile Technology Control Regime (MACRO) proscribes the transfer of missiles with ranges of 300 km and more.

Meanwhile, Indian defence shipyards are jostling fiercely for a share of Project 75I. The navy wants two submarines built abroad and inducted quickly into service, with the remaining four being built by MDL and the newly acquired defence shipyard, Hindustan Shipyard Ltd (HSL). But L&T cites its key role in building the nuclear submarine, INS Arihant, to argue that it should build at least one Project 75I submarine.

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[jarves]

I think they should first look towards Scorpion and also if this is impossible then go for direct buy from France try a second option of selling off all of the SSK and getting 15 Akulas directly from Russia.

@araz

 

[Abingdonboy]

Meanwhile, Indian defence shipyards are jostling fiercely for a share of Project 75I. The navy wants two submarines built abroad and inducted quickly into service, with the remaining four being built by MDL and the newly acquired defence shipyard, Hindustan Shipyard Ltd (HSL). But L&T cites its key role in building the nuclear submarine, INS Arihant, to argue that it should build at least one Project 75I submarine.

So potentially there could be 4 shipyards making subs for the IN at one time? This would be EXCELLENT, the pace of delivery would be simply unbelievable it really is a mouth-watering prospect. I've heard the P-75I could be for as many as 9-12 boats so this could dramatically turn the IN's sub fleet around in the span of 5-6 years!


Come on Modi (if you get in power) take this decision!

 

[AUSTERLITZ]

I too hope this new tender goes to a better scorpene.

 

[Abingdonboy]

I too hope this new tender goes to a better scorpene.

No doubt it shall, an elongated version with land attack capability (ability to launch Bhramos also) not to mention AIP (which the last 2 of the P-75 will have too).

 

[Screambowl]

booked for the next 10 years.

 

[Yeti]

The first 2-3 subs should be made by the supplier country and the rest should be made in India in my view

 

[sancho]

So potentially there could be 4 shipyards making subs for the IN at one time?

Not possible, because each shipyard would get a far too small portion of the total deal (even if 12 subs), to make all the required changes in the infrastructure, the training of the personell worth it. Not to mention the costs for DCNS to divert ToT and training to so many different shipyards.
So that is only an advantage, when you build different kind of subs and divert 2 of the shipyards to each project, but even then it hardly makes sense to do it for the Scorpenes, since it's far easier and most likely even cheaper, to let DCNS take over parts of the project. Let them build the module with the MESMA AIP for the last 2 x P75s and the first 2 x P75Is, while the last 4 subs will be completely build in India under ToT.
The whole point of the delays, were the pace of integrating the ToT into Mazogons production line, so that will most likely be the same case if we add a new unexperienced shipyard too, unless the new relations to Pipavav would be a help here.

I too hope this new tender goes to a better scorpene.

The Scorpene that is offered here is better, because it includes AIP and land attack capability, tube launched though. So that is already the case, but not because they made their sub much more capable, but because we chose to require AIP no from the start and not took such a bad decision to leave it out of the first 4 subs. The crucial point however will be, if we keep making the Scorpenes dependent on DRDO's AIP developments? With their record of messing such projects up and delaying crucial projects, we will see IN in more trouble.