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Making Sense of the Chinese People's Liberation Army's New Tracks at Doklam

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This week, NDTV and The Print both ran exclusive satellite imagery-based glances at Doklam, the Himalayan site of this summer’s standoff between Indian and Chinese troops that remains ongoing, albeit at a reduced intensity. According to NDTV, “New satellite images of the Doklam area to the east of Sikkim reveal that the Chinese have expanded multiple stretches of road in the disputed area, just a short distance from the site where Indian and Chinese soldiers faced off for 70 days earlier this year.” The Print‘s analysis supports that conclusion.

Having reviewed daily satellite imagery of the Doklam site through Planet, there’s no contesting against that conclusion. At some point after the start of this summer’s standoff in June, the Chinese People’s Liberation Army (PLA) improved and potentially added new pieces of track and road on the Dolam plateau, approximately one kilometer from the “turning point” that was the nexus of this summer’s standoff. These newly constructed roads, however, aren’t to be confused with the as-yet-unconstructed planned road extension that spurred the Indian Army to cross the watershed line into Doklam in June in the first place. Instead, these roads are alternative pathways connecting a long-standing Chinese road that has been in use at Doklam since at least 2005 and almost certainly much earlier.

The exact timing of the construction of the roads highlighted by NDTV and The Print is interesting, too. Though NDTV suggests the roads were constructed in October, Planet’s imagery of the Doklam site reveals evidence of their existence as early as late-August, just days before India and China announced the ‘disengagement’, by which their troops would both retreat their positions, but remain at Doklam. Imagery from August appears obscured by clouds, but there’s enough evidence to conclude that the PLA likely began construction on these paths at some point between late-July and mid-August, at the height of the standoff.

It’s unclear if the PLA’s decision to construct these pathways was informed by an expectation that the standoff would turn into a months-long affair, necessitating a robust wintertime presence in the Dolam bowl. Now, with the PLA and the Indian Army both dug in for the winter at Doklam, these pathways provide an important benefit as far as supply and logistics are concerned. The long-standing single pathway at Doklam requires constant maintenance in the winter months and, with reportedly hundreds of PLA troops still in the area, alternative pathways for logistics and replenishment may serve and important purpose. These paths could also enable longer-term ranging and patrol activities for the PLA in the area.

No one knows just how large the PLA’s presence at Doklam might be six months or a year from now, but these new tracks provide the foundation for a more permanent presence in the area. Before this summer’s standoff, the PLA would intermittently patrol the area and enter into the occasional scuffle with the Royal Bhutanese Army or an Indian Army patrol. Now, with hundreds of troops dug in for the winter, with equipment in tow, India must be prepared for a permanently transformed state of affairs to the east of its border post at Doka La, along the Sikkim-Bhutan border.

https://thediplomat.com/2017/12/mak...eoples-liberation-armys-new-tracks-at-doklam/

Even an Indian in the media admit that PLA are dug in in Doklam, within the dispute area, why are some Indians denying this fact?
 
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WTF, What is there to make sense. China is there and China is there to stay. Modi was jumping high on the back of Uncle Sam but Uncle Sam will not fight Doklam. All India can do is delete phone apps for the sake of national security.
 
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WTF, What is there to make sense. China is there and China is there to stay. Modi was jumping high on the back of Uncle Sam but Uncle Sam will not fight Doklam. All India can do is delete phone apps for the sake of national security.

Yes, but many Indians such as @MULUBJA are in serious denial. This time, even an Indian reporter shows that NDTV and the print has satellite evidence that the construction was only a mile away, well within the conflict area. These Indian fact deniers have to eat their words now. As we are all entirely entitled to our own opinions, but we are not entitled to our own facts.

@Chinese-Dragon @rott @Beast @ashok321 @lonelyman @sinait @Jlaw@Martian2 @Feng Leng@rcrmj
 
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Yes, but many Indians such as @MULUBJA are in serious denial. This time, even an Indian reporter shows that NDTV and the print has satellite evidence that the construction was only a mile away, well within the conflict area. These Indian fact deniers have to eat their words now. As we are all entirely entitled to our own opinions, but we are not entitled to our own facts.

@Chinese-Dragon @rott @Beast @ashok321 @lonelyman @sinait @Jlaw@Martian2 @Feng Leng@rcrmj

LOL this is not Rocket science to understand. Modi has elections coming and China is there at Doklam to show Modi middle fing but India is denying to make sure Modi makes through these elections. They know China is there but what can India do other than deny, India cannot afford a 2 front war. Forget Doklam, If China Invades Assam, India will still say China is in Assam to help the poverty. India cannot do any thing. There is saying "Only steal from those who you can out run" China can out run USA but India cannot out run China.
 
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MULUBJA? Lol, he has the same thinking as my 8 year old daughter.
Don't waste your time.

Yes, but an eight year old would understand basic facts that I presented. The evidence is that Chinese troops are stationed within a km of the conflict site, according to an Indian reporter citing NDTV. Is he going to say that Indian media now work for CCP?
 
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@randomradio, is the Indian reporter and NDTV lying or PDF Indian like you can’t handle the facts...,

Nobody is lying. The only thing is you Chinese are ignorant.

China is building small amounts of infra in order to hold a few thousand troops just as a show of strength because India already has 100,000 troops right beside the disputed area, with main battle tanks.

China is building infra on the Chinese side of the border, which both Bhutan and India accept to be China's territory. Chinese infra in the disputed area were long demolished back in July by the Indian Army.

Yes, but an eight year old would understand basic facts that I presented. The evidence is that Chinese troops are stationed within a km of the conflict site, according to an Indian reporter citing NDTV. Is he going to say that Indian media now work for CCP?

We are just 500 meters away. :lol:

Read the article so you realize that we are talking about a very small area.

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com...road-at-doklam-again/articleshow/60264898.cms
From the Doka La post, the Indian soldiers will continue to keep a hawk-eye on the Doklam bowl - which is Bhutanese territory but claimed by China - less than 500 meters away down the ridge slope.

"Our soldiers sit on the top, hold the ridge and can swiftly intervene, as they pro-actively did in mid-June, if the People's Liberation Army once again tries to unilaterally change the status quo by constructing a road near the Sikkim-Bhutan-Tibet tri-junction," said a source.
 
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Nobody is lying. The only thing is you Chinese are ignorant.

China is building small amounts of infra in order to hold a few thousand troops just as a show of strength because India already has 100,000 troops right beside the disputed area, with main battle tanks.

China is building infra on the Chinese side of the border, which both Bhutan and India accept to be China's territory. Chinese infra in the disputed area were long demolished back in July by the Indian Army.



We are just 500 meters away. :lol:

Read the article so you realize that we are talking about a very small area.

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com...road-at-doklam-again/articleshow/60264898.cms
From the Doka La post, the Indian soldiers will continue to keep a hawk-eye on the Doklam bowl - which is Bhutanese territory but claimed by China - less than 500 meters away down the ridge slope.

"Our soldiers sit on the top, hold the ridge and can swiftly intervene, as they pro-actively did in mid-June, if the People's Liberation Army once again tries to unilaterally change the status quo by constructing a road near the Sikkim-Bhutan-Tibet tri-junction," said a source.
pdf Chinese could not come in terms of humiliation of failure to take Doka La from India this year, even more so after it mentioned by their own ex-PLA colonel

“India has got exactly what it has wanted. It was a humiliating defeat for China to cave in to pressure from India despite all the tough talk,” Yue said.

http://www.scmp.com/news/china/dipl...-learned-tense-china-india-border-row-it-will

On top of that on the forum it was recently divulged to them , PLA failed 10 years ago in 2007 to take Batang La

https://www.pressreader.com/india/the-times-of-india-new-delhi-edition/20070803/282248071163205

Hence given PLA's record of these dual failures the only face saving for pdf Chinese is live in fantasies PLA occupied Doklam without controlling Batang La, Doka La and Gymochen and any PLA movement is considered victory.

How releiving it must be to be pdf Chinese and fantasize, PLA has occupied AP, Sikkim, Doklam, Taiwan, Senkaku Islands etc
 
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pdf Chinese could not come in terms of humiliation of failure to take Doka La from India this year, even more so after it mentioned by their own ex-PLA colonel

“India has got exactly what it has wanted. It was a humiliating defeat for China to cave in to pressure from India despite all the tough talk,” Yue said.

http://www.scmp.com/news/china/dipl...-learned-tense-china-india-border-row-it-will

On top of that on the forum it was recently divulged to them , PLA failed 10 years ago in 2007 to take Batang La

https://www.pressreader.com/india/the-times-of-india-new-delhi-edition/20070803/282248071163205

Hence given PLA's record of these dual failures the only face saving for pdf Chinese is live in fantasies PLA occupied Doklam without controlling Batang La, Doka La and Gymochen and any PLA movement is considered victory.

How releiving it must be to be pdf Chinese and fantasize, PLA has occupied AP, Sikkim, Doklam, Taiwan, Senkaku Islands etc

@Han Patriot , can you show this Indian in denial that Chinese troops are stationing in conflicting territory. This guy is making it sound like only the road is contentious, the rest of area are already part of China.
 
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@Han Patriot , can you show this Indian in denial that Chinese troops are stationing in conflicting territory. This guy is making it sound like only the road is contentious, the rest of area are already part of China.
Why cry to him, I fully admit China has troops stationed in conflicting territory, given China has troops in Batang La, Doka La and Gymochen and rest of the area i.e Sikkim, Bhutan are already part of China :lol:

Doklam-Map-2-1024x614.jpg
 
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@Han Patriot , can you show this Indian in denial that Chinese troops are stationing in conflicting territory. This guy is making it sound like only the road is contentious, the rest of area are already part of China.

Even if you guys will construct the road inside Indian territory, Indians will still say that Chinese lost because they didn't construct the road originally planned..

These morons don't realize that Chinese have now put themselves in there permanently and very near to the stand off site.. They have also constructed enough roads to provide continued supplied in case of any Indian misadventure.. And every other day, they are fortifying their positions..

IS THIS WHAT INDIA WANTED IN THE FIRST PLACE? I am sure NOOOOOO...
 
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Why cry to him, I fully admit China has troops stationed in conflicting territory, given China has troops in Batang La, Doka La and Gymochen and rest of the area i.e Sikkim, Bhutan are already part of China :lol:

Doklam-Map-2-1024x614.jpg
@Han Patriot has a map that clearly show the actual site zoomed in to show that China continues to build roads in the disputed Doklam plateau. Your map have been debunked multiple time.
 
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@Han Patriot has a map that clearly show the actual site zoomed in to show that China continues to build roads in the disputed Doklam plateau. Your map have been debunked multiple time.
You are right the map posted by me is all false batang la, doka la and gymochen do not exist at the locations shown in the map, they exist on planet Uranus as per ancient Chinese maps
 
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