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NEW DELHI: American aviation giant Boeing today said it plans to assemble either its Chinook heavy-lift helicopters or Apache attack choppers in India even as it gears to offer the possibility of manufacturing a fighter jet aircraft in the country.

"We are much closer to have assembly (of) one of those airplanes (choppers) here. That will play out and that's our strategy. This market is too important, capability is too high and commitment is significant and that kind of commitment is important for us," Boeing Chairman Jim McNerney McNerney said.
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India had last month signed a contract for 15 Chinook and 22 Apache helicopters. "Large sections of the Chinook fuselage are already manufactured in India and discussions are ongoing with our Indian partners to make Apache parts," Boeing India President Pratyush Kumar had then said.

At a seminar organised here by Boeing, McNerney hoped that India will over the next couple of years call for bids for a fighter aircraft.

"Our approach is going to be to take a current, state-of-the-art fighter and bid. The quantities are uncertain...Our bid will include a proposal to make the plane here," he said.

"The value to India is a very modern production system integrated to make a very sophisticated machine. That kind of industrial base capability is as important as the fighter itself. These modern manufacturing techniques can go into many different industries," he said.
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Several foreign aircraft manufacturers have offered to build their fighter planes in India after the government scrapped the global tender for 126 medium multi-role combat aircraft (MMRCA).

While India is in talks with France for a formal agreement for off-the-shelf purchase of 36 Rafale jets (two squadrons), Indian Air Force wants at least six more MMRCA-type squadrons.

The Boeing chairman also said that on the defence side, the Indian and US governments have to decide the issue of technology sharing.

"Leaving that aside, and generally speaking, the more cutting edge the technology, then less the sharing will be," he said even as he voiced support for 'Make In India'.

McNerney, however, said, "Make in India is not just someone handing you a blueprint and you make it.

"It can't be that way but I think the vision of the Prime Minister is more than that. So, I would break, at least the way I see it, Make in India down to design and make in India for India and global (market)."

He said that given the global nature of Boeing products and technology, the American firm can play a key role in Make in India initiative.

"If the politics here allows this initiative, to continue with the same momentum that it has today, for the next five years, the goal of moving the manufacturing contribution to the economy from 14 per cent to 25 per cent is achievable. The capability is here," he said.

Defence Minister Manohar Parrikar had said that the contract for the choppers will have a 30 per cent offset clause and will bring in business worth about USD one billion for the Indian defence industry. He had said at least 50 per cent of these would be direct export.

Apache is a multi-role attack helicopter. AH-64E Apache, the most modern variant also flown by the US Army, features enhanced performance, joint digital operability, improved survivability and cognitive decision aiding.
 
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looks like since rafale is relucatant prospects of F/A-18 E/F are growing by the day

grab this opportunity with both hands

they wanted to show tht even for such a small order they are willing for full cooperation with india , set a example for rafale as they missed a big order ,so for futrue boeing wants to grab bigger share of pie.
 
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they wanted to show tht even for such a small order they are willing for full cooperation with india , set a example for rafale as they missed a big order ,so for futrue boeing wants to grab bigger share of pie.
looks like USA has made up its mind to owt flank frenchies to get the better of indian defnce market :coffee:
 
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looks like since rafale is relucatant prospects of F/A-18 E/F are growing by the day

grab this opportunity with both hands

well bro even if rafale deal is signed for 36 nos, IAF needs some 5 sq more. apart from boeing there will be many surprises from Russian side too in annual summit in Moscow in dec,
 
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I had said it from the start
F/A18 was the more value for money choice, since it was second only to Rafale when it comes to performing strike missions,

And it was 40% cheaper than Rafale
For the price of 36 Rafales, we can get 64 F/A18

The only issue is that while the Rafale will be allowed to drop nukes,
US will never allow F/A18 in this role
 
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they wanted to show tht even for such a small order they are willing for full cooperation with india , set a example for rafale as they missed a big order ,so for futrue boeing wants to grab bigger share of pie.

plus assembly in india will bring down cost a bit too.... i guess...
 
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looks like USA has made up its mind to owt flank frenchies to get the better of indian defnce market :coffee:
yup even they know that india will be interested in long list of equipment they have, also personally i want apache to be assembled here as they know there will be atleast 70 more to be ordered not sure about chinook
 
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As far as mmrca is conerned French can give you quality.
US/Russia can you give quantity plus quality at the same amount.

I think india is not a super rich state to cough up billions just for quality, i think we can compromise a bit on quality and go for quantiy from US/RUSSIA.
 
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NEW DELHI: American aviation giant Boeing today said it plans to assemble either its Chinook heavy-lift helicopters or Apache attack choppers in India even as it gears to offer the possibility of manufacturing a fighter jet aircraft in the country.

"We are much closer to have assembly (of) one of those airplanes (choppers) here. That will play out and that's our strategy. This market is too important, capability is too high and commitment is significant and that kind of commitment is important for us," Boeing Chairman Jim McNerney McNerney said.
apache2.jpg



India had last month signed a contract for 15 Chinook and 22 Apache helicopters. "Large sections of the Chinook fuselage are already manufactured in India and discussions are ongoing with our Indian partners to make Apache parts," Boeing India President Pratyush Kumar had then said.

At a seminar organised here by Boeing, McNerney hoped that India will over the next couple of years call for bids for a fighter aircraft.

"Our approach is going to be to take a current, state-of-the-art fighter and bid. The quantities are uncertain...Our bid will include a proposal to make the plane here," he said.

"The value to India is a very modern production system integrated to make a very sophisticated machine. That kind of industrial base capability is as important as the fighter itself. These modern manufacturing techniques can go into many different industries," he said.
chinookc.jpg


Several foreign aircraft manufacturers have offered to build their fighter planes in India after the government scrapped the global tender for 126 medium multi-role combat aircraft (MMRCA).

While India is in talks with France for a formal agreement for off-the-shelf purchase of 36 Rafale jets (two squadrons), Indian Air Force wants at least six more MMRCA-type squadrons.

The Boeing chairman also said that on the defence side, the Indian and US governments have to decide the issue of technology sharing.

"Leaving that aside, and generally speaking, the more cutting edge the technology, then less the sharing will be," he said even as he voiced support for 'Make In India'.

McNerney, however, said, "Make in India is not just someone handing you a blueprint and you make it.

"It can't be that way but I think the vision of the Prime Minister is more than that. So, I would break, at least the way I see it, Make in India down to design and make in India for India and global (market)."

He said that given the global nature of Boeing products and technology, the American firm can play a key role in Make in India initiative.

"If the politics here allows this initiative, to continue with the same momentum that it has today, for the next five years, the goal of moving the manufacturing contribution to the economy from 14 per cent to 25 per cent is achievable. The capability is here," he said.

Defence Minister Manohar Parrikar had said that the contract for the choppers will have a 30 per cent offset clause and will bring in business worth about USD one billion for the Indian defence industry. He had said at least 50 per cent of these would be direct export.

Apache is a multi-role attack helicopter. AH-64E Apache, the most modern variant also flown by the US Army, features enhanced performance, joint digital operability, improved survivability and cognitive decision aiding.

Don't understand the Chinook Deal, should have Russian one, any way for the make in india I think it would be Chinook and should be. Have seen the program in Discovery about the Apache assembly, I was shocked, the whole factory consists of 10 people. There was one lady in the store, which directly enter the parts number required by the assembly line person, and the computer aided robot gets all of them, and fills the Bins. However the rotator fans came in the Kit, which was the tough job to fit, by the 2 person. Thats amazing guys.

plus assembly in india will bring down cost a bit too.... i guess...
Janab kaise Read my above post. LOLZ

looks like since rafale is relucatant prospects of F/A-18 E/F are growing by the day

grab this opportunity with both hands
F-18 US will start retiring it from 2030-35, then India could buy it surplus.
 
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The difference between the Americans and the much of the world is that they don't wait, hope and pine for the world to fall onto their lap. They're always seizing the initiative, being creative, formulating ideas that makes a world of difference when you sit down to discuss a deal with a potential customer/partner.
 
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I had said it from the start
F/A18 was the more value for money choice, since it was second only to Rafale when it comes to performing strike missions,
You forgot Su 34 fullback, which is the best one to compare with Rafale on those strike mission.

And it was 40% cheaper than Rafale
For the price of 36 Rafales, we can get 64 F/A18
Cheaper in the flyaway cost, costlier in acquasition cost. Whole set of new weapons AIM 120C7, AIM 9x, training, logistic support, Engine MRO facilities.

The only issue is that while the Rafale will be allowed to drop nukes,
US will never allow F/A18 in this role
Sure about that, who told you or post some link to support your point.

What does doping a nuke is connected with the plane, when the Air launch cruise missile is used to do that or who is stopping to load the nuke. Actually what is needed is the Shielding of the Electronic equipments from the shock waves of the explosion.
 
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Assembly of Chinook will have better benefits than apache. We get more now how and training workforce for heavy lift helicopters
 
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