Majority of Europeans say China will overtake 'broken' US within decade

[tower9]

You guys are really tough but those cabalists man they don't play fair. Since you mention Shanghai. Who built that Bund? How long did it take the dealers and cabalists to pull China down last time?

Sure, if China never had a revolution, the cabalists would surely be in charge. Right now, China is the main target precisely because their political system won't bow down to the globalists and is instead surging ahead.

But again, who knows. We all know power corrupts. The West used to not be degenerate but good times create weak men and the West has been ruled by degenerates for over two or three generations. When China becomes the global financial center, there is no doubt that the global banker class will seek to absorb China somehow either through partnerships, intermarriage, etc. Eventually there will be many globalists with Chinese faces but they will bow down to the cabalist ideology. That may be the case 50-60 years from now, then China will fall into degeneracy and decline.

 

[Saudang]

We will see. But I don't think the banking cabal will have the same iron grip on the Chinese political system as they have had on Washington. I think they will surely try and may have some influence, but they won't be the ones in charge.

But again, it's early in the game. When Shanghai becomes the world's financial center and China's elites fall into degeneracy after the 3rd or 4th generation becomes used to ruling the world, we might see China just succumbing to and becoming a part of the global banking class.

Global warming or a comet will get us before that.. you are trying to predict for next millennium

 

[TruthSeeker]

As an American born in 1945 at the very beginning of American power, it is hard for me to see what good comes from world hegemony. I am happy to see the Chinese striving to be masters of the world. You can have it!

 

[KurtisBrian]

People in Europe just want to play on the beach and live off of the USA. If people in Europe can't live off of the USA they will happily find another patsy to live off of.

As an American born in 1945 at the very beginning of American power, it is hard for me to see what good comes from world hegemony. I am happy to see the Chinese striving to be masters of the world. You can have it!

beginning of American power? the USA has been the dominant world power at least since they defeated the Spanish and maybe since their civil war or even when they defeated the British.

 

[GumNaam]

trump has severely shaken the so called "free world's" confidence in the american leadership. the harsh reality is that there is nothing biden can do to prove that a jackass like trump won't come into power again while China, with its one party system guarantees the continuation of policies thus providing the stability needed for sustained global economic growth.

rip democracy!

 

[tower9]

trump has severely shaken the so called "free world's" confidence in the american leadership. the harsh reality is that there is nothing biden can do to prove that a jackass like trump won't come into power again while China, with its one party system guarantees the continuation of policies thus providing the stability needed for sustained global economic growth.

rip democracy!

Biden is going to be busy trying to prevent domestic terrorism from escalating. Washington literally looks like Baghdad's Green Zone right now. It's crazy.

 

[GumNaam]

Biden is going to be busy trying to prevent domestic terrorism from escalating. Washington literally looks like Baghdad's Green Zone right now. It's crazy.

I know right? oh how the chickens have returned home to roost...

 

[beijingwalker]

trump has severely shaken the so called "free world's" confidence in the american leadership. the harsh reality is that there is nothing biden can do to prove that a jackass like trump won't come into power again while China, with its one party system guarantees the continuation of policies thus providing the stability needed for sustained global economic growth.

rip democracy!

Someone worse than Trump is bound to happen in US, Hitler also asended to power through democratic election.

 

[FuturePAF]

Soviets came toe to toe with the US, even exceeded US in science and technology for a while and had half the world on their side including china but eventually lost. it will take many more decades to see how the world politics shift and who comes on top.

To be a world power enough to put your own world order in the map. you have to be a hyperpower for a while. U.S was lucky that it was the only one after WW2 and then when soviets fell. otherwise it will most likely lead to an unending coldwar

China will probably overtake the US (by 2030), but due to demographics, in about a generation (2060), the US will probably gain back the top spot.

If the Chinese can fix their demographic problem now, and get population growth back to above replacement levels, such that the average age of the population stays relatively young, they have a chance to renew themselves, and retain their top spot. If they can’t do it through rebuilding their population numbers, but by building up partners to in affect create a common market, then they could have a fighting chance to stay on top, although this will require massive foreign aid to prop up friendly countries and keep them on “Team China”, similar to the Marshall plan. Perhaps they will build up infrastructure and supply chains abroad in exchange for these kinds of commitments.

Currently, China is at approximately 75% of US GDP. With growth 2-3 higher then the US growth (pre-pandemic). If the US does deficit spending and goes heavy into smart infrastructure building, it has a chance to push back China from overtaking it for some time, due to increased productivity and the velocity of money circulating in the US economy. It will be up to Chinese industries being innovative and catching up.

 

[Beast]

Soviets came toe to toe with the US, even exceeded US in science and technology for a while and had half the world on their side including china but eventually lost. it will take many more decades to see how the world politics shift and who comes on top.

To be a world power enough to put your own world order in the map. you have to be a hyperpower for a while. U.S was lucky that it was the only one after WW2 and then when soviets fell. otherwise it will most likely lead to an unending coldwar

Soviet never has the kind of financial influence like China around the globe. It's is not high end science or military that brought down Soviet. But lack of money and economy progress.

 

[tower9]

China will probably overtake the US (by 2030), but due to demographics, in about a generation (2060), the US will probably gain back the top spot.

If the Chinese can fix their demographic problem now, and get population growth back to above replacement levels, such that the average age of the population stays relatively young, they have a chance to renew themselves, and retain their top spot. If they can’t do it through rebuilding their population numbers, but by building up partners to in affect create a common market, then they could have a fighting chance to stay on top, although this will require massive foreign aid to prop up friendly countries and keep them on “Team China”, similar to the Marshall plan. Perhaps they will build up infrastructure and supply chains abroad in exchange for these kinds of commitments.

Currently, China is at approximately 75% of US GDP. With growth 2-3 higher then the US growth (pre-pandemic). If the US does deficit spending and goes heavy into smart infrastructure building, it has a chance to push back China from overtaking it for some time, due to increased productivity and the velocity of money circulating in the US economy. It will be up to Chinese industries being innovative and catching up.

China needs to urgently aid in the development and industrialization of Russia, Pakistan, Iran and Central Asia as its core alliance.

 

[FuturePAF]

China needs to urgently aid in the development and industrialization of Russia, Pakistan, Iran and Central Asia as its core alliance.

They seem to be doing so, but trying to minimize their costs. I suspect they will gift the infrastructure to countries like Pakistan, in exchange for political agreements and long term contracts in major supply chains.

China need to find a way to maximize the spend of economic growth of friendly nations so they can be a market for their products and services. The Asians countries near its borders are best suited for such an effort.

 

[Mk-313]

China will probably overtake the US (by 2030), but due to demographics, in about a generation (2060), the US will probably gain back the top spot.

If the Chinese can fix their demographic problem now, and get population growth back to above replacement levels, such that the average age of the population stays relatively young, they have a chance to renew themselves, and retain their top spot. If they can’t do it through rebuilding their population numbers, but by building up partners to in affect create a common market, then they could have a fighting chance to stay on top, although this will require massive foreign aid to prop up friendly countries and keep them on “Team China”, similar to the Marshall plan. Perhaps they will build up infrastructure and supply chains abroad in exchange for these kinds of commitments.

Currently, China is at approximately 75% of US GDP. With growth 2-3 higher then the US growth (pre-pandemic). If the US does deficit spending and goes heavy into smart infrastructure building, it has a chance to push back China from overtaking it for some time, due to increased productivity and the velocity of money circulating in the US economy. It will be up to Chinese industries being innovative and catching up.

i dont think so. when 2007 recession hit the U.S. the prediction was china will overtake US economy by 2020. but did not happen.

for an economic superpower to be it must have a developed AND the biggest economy. currently china is a developing economy based on GDP/capita and the 2nd largest

Currently china is at 50-58% off GDP going by 2019 numbers. but what chinas has to avoid is to be in the middle income trap. Japan, South korea, when they all had GDP growth like china has right now they all fell into the middle income trap. and if china avoids it then it will definitely become a developed economy.

FYI: middle income trap happens when a developing economy is growing rapidly. however the economy is still reliant on exports. so as it grows the standard of living gets better as well and labor gets expensive and there is a point. where your economy is still reliant mostly on exports but the labor has become expensive enough that the importers no longer find it competitive. so the exports are shifted to the next developing country and the country stays in that middle income trap.

If they can avoid that china willh have developed enough that it can rely on domestic economy and oculdnt carless whether exports are shifted or not.

 

[Itachi]

China will never be a global hegemon like the US. Because for it to become one....it first has to take a tiny island next to itself called Taiwan...

Wake me up when it does that. If at all...

Then, it'll have to risk sending soldiers around the world to suppress anyone acting against Chinese interests. Then we'll see if the Chinese are who they say there are. Obviously, take Taiwan first and show everyone if you actually have what it takes to surpass the US.

 

[Mk-313]

Soviet never has the kind of financial influence like China around the globe. It's is not high end science or military that brought down Soviet. But lack of money and economy progress.

it did, at the time soviet was the second larges economy after U.S. exactly where china is today