Maharashtra Farmer Burns Own Onion Crop After Not Getting Right Prices

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[CallSignMaverick]

Thats why farm laws were being introduced but entitled farmers (middlemen) of north India used violence to push it back.

 

[Samlee]

You Could Export It To Pakistan But No

 

[villageidiot]

You Could Export It To Pakistan But No

Is it their fault Pakistan has banned import or that Pakistan is an agricultural country wasting all it's water on old-a*s crop irrigation methods and still has to import everything, wheat, lentils and onions to feed it's population?

 

[El Sidd]

You Could Export It To Pakistan But No

India's mass hysteria towards Pakistan is a far bigger business than a harvest. Pakistan is also not keen to trade with India given the human condition of India.

Is it their fault Pakistan has banned import or that Pakistan is an agricultural country wasting all it's water on old-a*s crop irrigation methods and still has to import everything, wheat, lentils and onions to feed it's population?

Pakistan has one of the most sophisticated irrigation system through it's network of canals. The recent floods have created a calamitous decline in harvest.

 

[Skimming]

Pakistan has one of the most sophisticated irrigation system through it's network of canals. The recent floods have created a calamitous decline in harvest.

One of the many reasons why Pakistanis are ardent fan of British Raj.

Ask @Indus Pakistan, the authority on Pakistan history and culture.

 

[El Sidd]

One of the many reasons why Pakistanis are ardent fan of British Raj.

Ask @Indus Pakistan, the authority on Pakistan history and culture.

Pakistan employed Dutch experts on the cause. The country has responded to the environment crisis by projects to green her deserts and plantation drives which are not threatened by Indian water wars.

 

[Thevilone]

Onion price fluctuations have been a major headache for decades. Prices jump from 5 to 150 rupees depending on the crop production. Onion does not have a long shelf-life like other staples such as wheat, rice or potato. Cold-storage options are limited and expensive. The sad joke amongst Indian farmers is that a bad crop means farmers might earn a little, a decent crop means farmers will earn a lot but a bumper harvest means the farmers will go bankrupt.

The only solution is building infrastructure for warehousing and cold-storage. India has taken massive steps in this direction, such as giving rebates and tax-benefits for establishing new warehouses and cold storage. It will take years or decades for the plan to pay-off but I am sure India will be able to store produce for long duration. This will help farmers hold their crops when supply is high and make profits when supply is low thus stabilizing the price of food items across the board. Indian companies are also building cold-storage plants in neighboring countries such as Nepal, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka, Myanmar. (Bhutan doesn't require due to it's climate). Solar-power based cold storage has been a game changer in Agro industries. When we talk about India becoming a regional superpower it's not about missiles or fighter jets; it's these small steps to improve the living conditions of all our neighbors. We grow and our neighbours grow with us. https://www.thehindubusinessline.co...ge-facility-in-bangladesh/article22681651.ece

India's mass hysteria towards Pakistan is a far bigger business than a harvest. Pakistan is also not keen to trade with India given the human condition of India.




Pakistan has one of the most sophisticated irrigation system through it's network of canals. The recent floods have created a calamitous decline in harvest.

Pakistan's biggest curse has been the unscientifically designed irrigation system of British era which Pakistan has failed to improve or modernize. This irrigation system was built solely for the purpose of short-term exploitation not long-term sustainable growth.

Is it their fault Pakistan has banned import or that Pakistan is an agricultural country wasting all it's water on old-a*s crop irrigation methods and still has to import everything, wheat, lentils and onions to feed it's population?

Have to agree with villageidiot here. Pakistan has been importing even staple food items like wheat and pulses for many years, can't blame everything on recent floods. Pakistan's 22 crores population is unsustainable and it's rising alarmingly fast. In 10-20 years Pakistan might be looking at mass famine. BD had higher population in '71 and less GDP per capita, now BD has less people and far more money. A BD primary school teacher earns from than a Pakistani college lecturer and the difference is increasing constantly.

 

[El Sidd]

Pakistan's biggest curse has been the unscientifically designed irrigation system of British era which Pakistan has failed to improve or modernize. This irrigation system was built solely for the purpose of short-term exploitation not long-term sustainable growth.

I am under no obligation to entertain propaganda. Pakistan will continue to expand this till Balochistan is as green as Punjab.

 

[Skimming]

Pakistan employed Dutch experts on the cause. The country has responded to the environment crisis by projects to green her deserts and plantation drives which are not threatened by Indian water wars.

This:

@Bharat Muslim Geography. Yes, it's simple geography. The Indus Valley climate is extention of the Middle Eastern dry, arid to semi arid environment which extends into Indian Rajasthan. I am sure you have heard of Thar Desert. Through this semi arid region runs the Indus and it's tributaries. Therefore historically it could only sustain small population adjacent to the rivers. Few miles away was bone dry desert very similar to Nile. This image of Jhelum river near Thal is illustrative. Barely mile away from the river is bone dry desert.

Therefore historically Indus region supported very low population. Only in the extreme north was there sufficient rainfall to support agriculture. Therefore through history Indus region was semi-arid desert rimmed by high mountains. Harappa and Mohenjo Daro had taken root very close to the rivers. Further away from the river was sand and desert.

Only with the coming of British was the rivers used to create massive artificial irrigation canals which turned the semi desert into green fields. Even today if the irrigation system in Indus was turned off within six months most of the land would revert to desert.

Jhang-Bhakkar Road in Thal Desert in Punjab.

The effect of British irrigation engineering can be seen on the map below. Vast areas on both sides of Indus have gone green through canal irrigation. However on the extremes you still have deserts on both flanks of Indus.

This of course is very differant in case of Ganga. There you have rainfall and in historical times Ganga Valley was jungle. So it boils down to this. Ganga had sufficient rainfall to support huge population. Indus was semi desert and only recently has irrigation enambled large scale farming.


This is best seen in the rainfall map [below] of South Asia.

As you can see from precipitation map above -

Ganga India > Wet
Indus Pakistan > Dry

Both are profoundly differant as can be seen in climate maps. This also explains the historical population differances between both lands. Ganga and Indus are like chalk and cheese. Entirely differant. Ganga flows along wetlands east toward Bangla. Indus flows along drylands south to Arabian Sea.

I hope this addresses the points you raised.

 

[El Sidd]

This:

Yes something like this.

 

[iamnobody]

Farmers are local marathis.

But the traders/wholesalers are Jain, Gujarati and Marwadis.

 

[Thevilone]

Farmers are local marathis.

But the traders/wholesalers are Jain, Gujarati and Marwadis.

Jain/Marwari/Gujarati trader ka diya hua 2 Rs. per kg is equivalent to Marathi trader ka diya hua 2 Rs. per kg. Prices are determined by supply and demand. Next year these same traders might be paying Rs. 100 per kg, they don't pay after asking farmer's ethnicity.

I am under no obligation to entertain propaganda. Pakistan will continue to expand this till Balochistan is as green as Punjab.

Pakistan has one of the lowest forest cover percentages in the world @2.1%. India's is more than 10 times higher at 23.1%. One of the main reasons is land usage policy. In India there are very clear laws regarding agricultural, forest, residential and commercial land. India's forest department is considered very efficient and has played a positive role in preventing deforestation. Forest cover in India has reduced, but the rate of deforestation is slowed down by Forest dept.

Pakistan on the other hand is building housing scoeities on agricultural lands, wetlands and orchards. The destruction of wetlands was one of the key factors in 2022 floods.Wetlands act as a buffer absorbing excess water. Converting agricultural land into residential areas has resulted in food shortage which in turn forces farmers to convert existing forest and wetlands into farmland. This in turn leads to even more severe floods. I believe Pakistan may be looking at regular flooding every 3-5 years from now on.

The embankments of the canal system will ensure floodwaters cannot recede and cause massive devastation. There are multiple solution but they require massive funding, funding which Pakistan does not have at all.

Is it their fault Pakistan has banned import or that Pakistan is an agricultural country wasting all it's water on old-a*s crop irrigation methods and still has to import everything, wheat, lentils and onions to feed it's population?

Pakistan exports SUGAR and RICE. I was absolutely shocked to see a country with severe water shortage is cultivating sugarcane and paddy, two of the most water intensive crops on earth. The zamindars with 1000s of acres of land take govt. subsidies, farm crops which are unsustainable, make huge profits(gain with more govt. subsidy) and then park this money outside of Pakistan. Pakistan is destined to be bankrupt for generations.

 

[Jeeten Parikh]

India's mass hysteria towards Pakistan is a far bigger business than a harvest. Pakistan is also not keen to trade with India given the human condition of India.




Pakistan has one of the most sophisticated irrigation system through it's network of canals. The recent floods have created a calamitous decline in harvest.

pakistan won't pay. so let them get their onions from iron brothers.

 

[iamnobody]

Jain/Marwari/Gujarati trader ka diya hua 2 Rs. per kg is equivalent to Marathi trader ka diya hua 2 Rs. per kg. Prices are determined by supply and demand. Next year these same traders might be paying Rs. 100 per kg, they don't pay after asking farmer's ethnicity

Things aren't so simple.

These Jain/Gujarati/Marwadi traders cartel determine price. Not demand and supply.

If farmers are ready to sell for RS 2 per kg or lower, then why are onions are sold at 25 Rupees per KG to consumers in Mumbai.