Mahaaz Kashmir LOC Pakistan |24 September 2016 - Dunya News

[Zarvan]

 

[WaLeEdK2]

Is he going to do a show when the Russians are in Cherat?

 

[Zarvan]

Is he going to do a show when the Russians are in Cherat?

I don't think Army allows shows during exercises with other countries

 

[django]

@Zibago @Moonlight @The Sandman @PaklovesTurkiye @Jonah Arthur @Sarge

 

[thrilainmanila]

the only showed the basic small arms, they'll never show anything heavier.
the TOWs and HJ-8s would be better bunker busters, they probably have them but there not showing them.

 

[PAK_MyRoots]

never saw this show before, i guess this one I would.

 

[Zarvan]

By the way can any one tell about vests these soldiers wearing. They looked really good. I am hoping that soldiers will been seen with new ASSAULT Rifles really soon hopefully SCAR and new AK-15 and also RPG 7 gets replaced by either new RPG 32 or new Carl Gaustav or both.

 

[Inception-06]

@Sarge Good Morning Brother !

( I Like like the introduction W. Khan with the AK-Rifle: message-->provocation for the Indians, battel for freedom in Kashmir-resistance ).

 

[Inception-06]

the only showed the basic small arms, they'll never show anything heavier.
the TOWs and HJ-8s would be better bunker busters, they probably have them but there not showing them.

the only showed the basic small arms, they'll never show anything heavier.
the TOWs and HJ-8s would be better bunker busters, they probably have them but there not showing them.

You are right Bakthar Shikans are standard in Bunkers, I am happy that they have deployed AA Guns also in Bunkers for ground role !

 

[Moonlight]

@Zibago @Moonlight @The Sandman @PaklovesTurkiye @Jonah Arthur @Sarge

As always great show.
Well the best part of the show was, when Jawans said, "hum civilians pe attack Nahi karte" and then there are ********.
It was heart breaking to see that young lady in this condition. She's too young yet to be disabled.
Pakistan including Kashmir Zindabad and armed forces Paindabad.

 

[Signalian]

@Sarge Good Morning Brother !

( I Like like the introduction W. Khan with the AK-Rifle: message-->provocation for the Indians, battel for freedom in Kashmir-resistance ).

Good morning sir,

My post should now make sense to u here. post 236.
https://defence.pk/threads/pakistan...-through-war-hina-rabbani-khar.436710/page-16

See the distance between both posts in the video between 5:00 to 7:00 minutes. A Pakistani infantry attack will take more than an hour to reach the Indian post. there are mines and obviously Indians can see every movement when LOC is crossed. Thats why i mentioned use of transport helicopters.

Secondly, 106mm RR Gun is a big weapon. the SPG-9 is a smaller 73mm RR gun. It needs a tripod to mount and fire.

Now the heavy weapons like mortar, RPG-7 etc will also needs rounds to be carried it. You can see the terrain, tanks cannot be used.
4 X 4 can be used on dirt tracks or roads, not cross country on mountains under fire. This makes the infantry assault more complicated.

@Zibago @Moonlight @The Sandman @PaklovesTurkiye @Jonah Arthur @Sarge

Thank you for sharing, its a very informative video and shows the problems of LOC and conducting infantry operations in this area.

 

[Inception-06]

Good morning sir,

My post should now make sense to u here. post 236.
https://defence.pk/threads/pakistan...-through-war-hina-rabbani-khar.436710/page-16

See the distance between both posts in the video between 5:00 to 7:00 minutes. A Pakistani infantry attack will take more than an hour to reach the Indian post. there are mines and obviously Indians can see every movement when LOC is crossed. Thats why i mentioned use of transport helicopters.

Secondly, 106mm RR Gun is a big weapon. the SPG-9 is a smaller 73mm RR gun. It needs a tripod to mount and fire.

Now the heavy weapons like mortar, RPG-7 etc will also needs rounds to be carried it. You can see the terrain, tanks cannot be used.
4 X 4 can be used on dirt tracks or roads, not cross country on mountains under fire. This makes the infantry assault more complicated.


Thank you for sharing, its a very informative video and shows the problems of LOC and conducting infantry operations in this area.

A selam, how are you ?

I am working this days, so could not give a detailed Re-Briefing to your Kashmir-Operation posts, I only read and give short Replys.

I agree in every point about the difficulties for a offensive operation at the LOC, which you have pointed out very well in post 236 and in this topic.
Another point is the sheer overhelming number of Indian Forces in Kashmir, I would never support any large scale Offensive Operation at the LOC, we would need a 5-7 times bigger force to conquer the indian strongholds. As far as I see it, after obersving the number of Indian mountain Divisions and airborne Brigades, and analysing their military media, we have to reckon a massive Indian attack in this sector, the indians have a very high number of airborne brigades and special forces battalions in Kashmir.
But their supposed strength in numbers, is also their weakness, a bigger number of indian Troops need also more logistic and supply. The tempting high quantity of human and machines will lead the indian Generals to offensive operations, which is also a part of their doctrine. In my opinion We Pakistanis are endowed, when it comes to defensive operations, our strongholds at the LOC made of bunkers, trench lines, holes and tunnels in the mountain will build a bullwark against the indian invasion waves ! Our defence preparations at the LOC are reaching even our backland and go deep under the earth (remember the battle of Iowa).
This concentrated Pakistani defence at the LOC, forces the indians to concentrate the bulk of their forces in Kashmir if they desire offensive operations, so the Ratio is and will be ca. 7:2,5 for the indians, this over streching of logistic, rosources, troops and machine makes the indians more vulnerable in other frontlines such as the Punjab-Mahaaz. And thats good so, because it will give the Pakistani Generals less headche at the fronts like Sindh/Rajastan/Thar/Multan/Punjab etc. and may be the opportunity for offensive operations to penetrate India. Did you get my point ? I am asking, because my english is not perfect !

regards

Part 2: Mountain defence preparation at LOC by Pakistan


Part 3: Defensive and reserve equipment of Pakistan at the LOC.

 

[Basel]

@Zarvan in a clip posted on twitter by him, a PA officer said that Indians are better trained then us. Why and how? If true why the hell we lag in it?

 

[Zarvan]

@Zarvan in a clip posted on twitter by him, a PA officer said that Indians are better trained then us. Why and how? If true why the hell we lag in it?

Better trained no way. I think you heard it wrong. We are far better trained specially after war on terror even before that our training was far more better but this war on terror has taken both motivation and training to whole new level.

 

[Basel]

I am working this days, so could not give a detailed Re-Briefing to your Kashmir-Operation posts, I only read and give short Replys.

I agree in every point about the difficulties for a offensive operation at the LOC, which you have pointed out very well in post 236 and in this topic.
Another point is the sheer overhelming number of Indian Forces in Kashmir, I would never support any large scale Offensive Operation at the LOC, we would need a 5-7 times bigger force to conquer the indian strongholds. As far as I see it, after obersving the number of Indian mountain Divisions and airborne Brigades, and analysing their military media, we have to reckon a massive Indian attack in this sector, the indians have a very high number of airborne brigades and special forces battalions in Kashmir.
But their supposed strength in numbers, is also their weakness, a bigger number of indian Troops need also more logistic and supply. The tempting high quantity of human and machines will lead the indian Generals to offensive operations, which is also a part of their doctrine. In my opinion We Pakistanis are endowed, when it comes to defensive operations, our strongholds at the LOC made of bunkers, trench lines, holes and tunnels in the mountain will build a bullwark against the indian invasion waves ! Our defence preparations at the LOC are reaching even our backland and go deep under the earth (remember the battle of Iowa). This concentrated Pakistani defence at the LOC, forces the indians to concentrate the bulk of their forces in Kashmir, and thats good so, because it will give the Pakistani Generals less headche at the fronts like Sindh/Rajastan/Thar/Multan/Punjab etc. and may be the opportunity for offensive operations to penetrate India. Did you get my point ?

On LOC Pakistan should deploy upgraded 122mm MBRL in numbers to destroy heavy infantry attacks and enemy positions, with various type of munitions' and upgraded range of 40kms those are potent weapons along with artillery and small drones' like scan eagles, combined with others resourced PA can take care of any IA attack.

Better trained no way. I think you heard it wrong. We are far better trained specially after war on terror even before that our training was far more better but this war on terror has taken both motivation and training to whole new level.

I think he mention it because there are huge numbers of para and special forces are also deployed there by India and usually they are better trained then regular infantry.