M-270 USA : Are we getting it or not ?

[Kompromat]

Yes, but it is also important to understand that USA only follows its national interests. My question is more important:

Why does the Pakistan Army put US interest over and above those of Pakistan by becoming a partner in activities that are detrimental to Pakistan, like you clearly described above?

Pakistan Army's role in politics has been a negative one and i hope that they have learned their lessons.

 

[Oldman1]

Pakistan Army's role in politics has been a negative one and i hope that they have learned their lessons.

You hoped? Has the past history of the Pakistani military involved in politics encourages that chance for change?

 

[Kompromat]

You hoped? Has the past history of the Pakistani military involved in politics encourages that chance for change?

Military no longer has the appetite for a take over, they have decided to let the masses learn by trial and error. If it was the 90s with today's political climate in Pakistan, we would already have the Delta-1 brigade remove the PM. The very fact that the military has set a very high bar this time, gives us room for maneuver. As perhaps a million people march on the capital tomorrow to protest against the rigging in elections, the military's red line is if any triggers are pulled.

 

[VCheng]

Pakistan Army's role in politics has been a negative one and i hope that they have learned their lessons.

The recent meddling with media independence and the present imbroglio with TuQ/PTI and the elected government clearly shows that your hope is not justified. The Army clearly continues to meddle in internal politics illegally and to the detriment of the country, just like in the past.

 

[Kompromat]

The recent meddling with media independence and the present imbroglio with TuQ/PTI and the elected government clearly shows that your hope is not justified. The Army clearly continues to meddle in internal politics illegally and to the detriment of the country, just like in the past.

Meddling can't be stopped.
Geo had it coming. I personally want them scrapped - the entire GEO/Jang group as its run by traitors who have ill at heart for Pakistan.

 

[VCheng]

Meddling can't be stopped.
Geo had it coming. I personally want them scrapped - the entire GEO/Jang group as its run by traitors who have ill at heart for Pakistan.

Can't be stopped? Geo had it coming?

And then you express hopes that things are changing?

Hain Ji?

 

[Echo_419]

Pakistan Army's role in politics has been a negative one and i hope that they have learned their lessons.

But historically PA has manged the economy better than the democratic leaders,just compare the role of Ayub & Mushraff to zardari & Nawaz

 

[Kompromat]

But historically PA has manged the economy better than the democratic leaders,just compare the role of Ayub & Mushraff to zardari & Nawaz

Our civilian leadership is utterly inept.

 

[Echo_419]

Our civilian leadership is utterly inept.

Yeah but it is not like PA is just better in comparison,they have done some very good work.From what i have herd Ayub khans time was Pakistan's glory years even better than us & Musharraf also has done a lot of good work[Gwadar is one such project]

 

[Kompromat]

Yeah but it is not like PA is just better in comparison,they have done some very good work.From what i have herd Ayub khans time was Pakistan's glory years even better than us & Musharraf also has done a lot of good work[Gwadar is one such project]

There is no denying that.

 

[tarrar]

No, we will not get them because US will not sell anything to Pakistan. So Pakistan will have to stick with China, Turkey & Russia, as they are the best options available for Pakistan in defence.

 

[VCheng]

No, we will not get them because US will not sell anything to Pakistan. So Pakistan will have to stick with China, Turkey & Russia, as they are the best options available for Pakistan in defence.

Not sell anything? Where do you think Pakistan received its best jet fighters from?

 

[Zarvan]

Not sell anything? Where do you think Pakistan received its best jet fighters from?

Yes when we were in Afghan Jihad even than they gave us half than during Musharraf time when we went in Tribal areas on there orders the over all cost we have to pay is massive and we get nothing much in return

 

[VCheng]

Yes when we were in Afghan Jihad even than they gave us half than during Musharraf time when we went in Tribal areas on there orders the over all cost we have to pay is massive and we get nothing much in return

So whose fault it was that the whole participation was reduced to a mere transactional relationship rather than an enduring strategic partnership it could have been?

 

[Zarvan]

So whose fault it was that the whole participation was reduced to a mere transactional relationship rather than an enduring strategic partnership it could have been?

It can never be most off our interests go against each other