Lt Gen Rizwan Akhtar, ex-ISI chief, decides to retire early

[Mav3rick]

Why are people making a big deal out of him retiring early

It is unprecedented for such a high ranking officer to seek early retirement. There is definately something that is not being revealed. He is said to be involved in 300 Billion scam, his brother in 400 Billion scam.....could be forced retirement due to those things.

hmmmm I can't say for sure about the percentage but just to let you know that I consider Poop Musharraf (the coward rat) responsible for most of the mess the nation is in today. His joining the WoT under the most despicable terms and conditions, his letting NS go Scot-free, his signing of the NRO and letting the corrupt politicians come back into Pakistan and rule it again, his support of almost dead MQM to become a powerful terrorist organisation again, his stabbing of Kashmir freedom struggle, ...etc are just a few of the reasons that make me thing he is the main culprit and rather the mastermind behind the current turmoil.
None of the politicians is/was capable of doing any of that.

You forgot his dancing........we should have awarded capital punishment to him on that account alone. I mean the nerve of that guy, caving in to the angry warning of the sole super power at that time; so what if Pakistan was being threatened to be treated like Afghanistan and bombed back to the stone age, we could have eaten grass and lived in caves made by all that bombing but Musharraf took all that away from us, the BAS****!!!

And he should have hanged NS along with our relations with Saudi Arabia, I mean it's not like we are getting free or subsidized oil from them or any other sort of financial benefit for which we needed to cave especially when our economy was so strong in 1999/20. Infact we should recall all Pakistani workers from Saudi Arabia and let it go to hell. I cannot even speak of the evil of MQM which got a free run in Karachi under Musharraf, those terrorists had the audacity to build roads, sewerage and water systems, bridges, schools etc. and establish peace in Karachi, who the hell needs those useless luxuries????

I say we bring back Musharraf and award capital punishment, after that we can go back to our chants of "Hum Zinda Qaum Hain"!!

Wow (slow claps)...What a logic...why not extend this kindness and general amnesty to all the petty criminals: murderers, thieves, fraudsters...etc?

A person has to be an ISO-certified fool to trust the corrupt politicians. That means he lacked the vision to see... despite having access to all the reports from ISI, MI and other intelligence about their involvement in corruption and collusion with terrorist organisation and anti-Pakistan elements?

And what about the other points?

How about looking at it the actual way? How Musharraf actually handed over the decision to us, Pakistanis, to decide who we wanted to be our politically elected leader!! You wanted that one man to make that right decision for all of us, he wanted all of us to make the right decision. I believe disappointment should be the other way around. Unfortunately, some of us still fail to see things for what they are, most of us actually.

 

[war&peace]

I say we bring back Musharraf and award capital punishment

Agreed and Ameen.

How about looking at it the actual way? How Musharraf actually handed over the decision to us, Pakistanis, to decide who we wanted to be our politically elected leader!! You wanted that one man to make that right decision for all of us, he wanted all of us to make the right decision. I believe disappointment should be the other way around. Unfortunately, some of us still fail to see things for what they are, most of us actually.

If he was so righteous and upright, why did he even staged the coup d'tet in the first place? Was it not the choice of the people back then?...Are we missing something here?

 

[Mav3rick]

Well I am seeing people praising Rizwan Akhtar for fixing up KHI.

During his tenure as DG Rangers Sindh. No Ranger dared to act against the MQM goons and it was the hard work of Bilal Akbar who came up and banged MQM like no one else. Rizwan Akhtar's tenure as DG Rangers was nothing but a drama.

MQM has always been the favorite punching bag of Army and so credit goes to no one where MQM bashing is concerned as those decisions are taken elsewhere.

I would like to see the same Rangers go and arrest Zulfiqar Mirza, unlike last time when they had to return empty handed, beaten and deprived of their weapons. But they can go and arrest anyone from MQM's head quarters without an iota of resistance. Yet, MQM is a goon organization.

Agreed and Ameen.


If he was so righteous and upright, why did he even staged the coup in the first place? Was it not the choice of the people back then?...Are we missing something here?

So we want to take bits and pieces from posts, which are entirely out of context, and then compare apples and oranges. You must be a PTI supporter!

 

[war&peace]

MQM has always been the favorite punching bag of Army and so credit goes to no one where MQM bashing is concerned as those decisions are taken elsewhere.

I would like to see the same Rangers go and arrest Zulfiqar Mirza, unlike last time when they had to return empty handed, beaten and deprived of their weapons. But they can go and arrest anyone from MQM's head quarters without an iota of resistance. Yet, MQM is a goon organization.



So we want to take bits and pieces from posts, which are entirely out of context, and then compare apples and oranges. You must be a PTI supporter!

Better than supporting a mofo dictator.

 

[Mav3rick]

Are you being dense on purpose? A person following Musharraf's orders is not a petty 'egg thief'.

And by the way, an egg thief, is still an egg thief and the punishment is chopping off the hand. It is this trivialization of crime that is responsible for our decay. I expected better from an educated person like you.

Please excuse me for butting in, just a little clarity.

Islamic punishments are implemented in an Islamic environment where a well established Islamic welfare system is present to ensure that nobody goes hungry or without basic necessities of life. Islamic punishments cannot be implemented in a non-Islamic environment; a person who steals to satisfy his hunger cannot be considered a thief, on the contrary it is the state that has failed him!

 

[war&peace]

I mean the nerve of that guy, caving in to the angry warning of the sole super power at that time; so what if Pakistan was being threatened to be treated like Afghanistan and bombed back to the stone age, we could have eaten grass and lived in caves made by all that bombing but Musharraf took all that away from us, the BAS****!!!

Exactly, see what has happened to Iran and NK....both are back in the stone age after having been bombed...also the Cuba... see what happened to them...so sad to see them back into the stone age

And check how Pakistan has progressed and stayed extremely peaceful and calm since Musharraf's take over.. no suicide attack, no bombs exploded,... loadshedding gone away, Kalabagh dam is generating thousands of megawatts of power, extra water is available for farming and residential needs. Wow riches everywhere after all he had the guts to take a decision..

Sir can you send me the fine VR you wear or tell me the nice weed you are on? because I want to experience the same..

 

[CriticalThought]

Please excuse me for butting in, just a little clarity.

Islamic punishments are implemented in an Islamic environment where a well established Islamic welfare system is present to ensure that nobody goes hungry or without basic necessities of life. Islamic punishments cannot be implemented in a non-Islamic environment; a person who steals to satisfy his hunger cannot be considered a thief, on the contrary it is the state that has failed him!

Well, I hope no hungry man is ever caught sneaking into your house to steal. Islam allows one to beg, but not to steal, in any case, whether the state provides or not. Are you telling me hungry Muslims are allowed to steal in non-Muslim countries? This is a very real example of our moral degeneracy.

 

[El Sidd]

Please excuse me for butting in, just a little clarity.

Islamic punishments are implemented in an Islamic environment where a well established Islamic welfare system is present to ensure that nobody goes hungry or without basic necessities of life. Islamic punishments cannot be implemented in a non-Islamic environment; a person who steals to satisfy his hunger cannot be considered a thief, on the contrary it is the state that has failed him!

Not to mention that the state is responsible for all basic human needs and if someone still steals, you just dont go chop his hands off...... after a warning and penalty and look at the medical scenario the punishment is carried out. nobody went chopping people hands off.... they start with the smallest appendage of the smallest finger in the hand first.

but who cares for the system or anything.... everyone is like Chukky want to chop things off

 

[Zarvan]

People new reports are coming that Rizwan Akhtar is taking early retirement to become part of Saudi Intelligence he would mainly help run Saudi Counter Intelligence wing more effectively

 

[war&peace]

Well, I hope no hungry man is ever caught sneaking into your house to steal. Islam allows one to beg, but not to steal, in any case, whether the state provides or not. Are you telling me hungry Muslims are allowed to steal in non-Muslim countries? This is a very real example of our moral degeneracy.

I said multiple times before too...you must learn about Islam and Sharia. Knowing that you're not a judge or sitting at any responsible position gives me a sigh of relief otherwise all the negative stories in the international media would become true. I totally concur and agree to this post

Please excuse me for butting in, just a little clarity.

Islamic punishments are implemented in an Islamic environment where a well established Islamic welfare system is present to ensure that nobody goes hungry or without basic necessities of life. Islamic punishments cannot be implemented in a non-Islamic environment; a person who steals to satisfy his hunger cannot be considered a thief, on the contrary it is the state that has failed him!

 

[Mav3rick]

Exactly, see what has happened to Iran and NK....both are back in the stone age after having been bombed...also the Cuba... see what happened to them...so sad to see them back into the stone age

And check how Pakistan has progressed and stayed extremely peaceful and calm since Musharraf's take over.. no suicide attack, no bombs exploded,... loadshedding gone away, Kalabagh dam is generating thousands of megawatts of power, extra water is available for farming and residential needs. Wow riches everywhere after all he had the guts to take a decision..

Sir can you send me the fine VR you wear or tell me the nice weed you are on? because I want to experience the same..

You cannot compare NK or Iran to Pakistan, neither of the countries had to face the wrath of an injured Super Power. Musharraf's caving into US demands may have been for 2 reasons, to reflect the anger of the Super Power and possibly to gain and benefit from the Super Power's friendship. You may have noticed NK, Iran and Cuba but you forgot Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria etc.

Pakistan had been extremely peaceful and calm during most of Musharraf's tenure. The development was unparalleled and the economic growth unprecedented. It wasn't until Musharraf decided to develop Gawadar that our neighbors decided to use militants as armed proxies against Pakistan. You do realize that TTP is a terrorist organization trained, supported, financed and given targets by RAW and possibly some other intelligence agencies.....how can Musharraf be blamed for that?

Kalabagh is a political issue, when political forces do not want development, what was Musharraf supposed to do, impose Martial Law?? Besides, I do not recall facing the extreme load shedding and power failures that I recall from PPP tenure during Musharraf, not until KESC was privatized; after privatization, KESC's redundant and excess staff resorted to mischief, organized labor strikes, theft of cable and equipment, cutting and tripping of load etc., it was all well planned sabotage. Should we give in to that?

 

[U-571]

no accountability of army generals who made billios through corruption

 

[war&peace]

You cannot compare NK or Iran to Pakistan, neither of the countries had to face the wrath of an injured Super Power. Musharraf's caving into US demands may have been for 2 reasons, to reflect the anger of the Super Power and possibly to gain and benefit from the Super Power's friendship. You may have noticed NK, Iran and Cuba but you forgot Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria etc.

Pakistan had been extremely peaceful and calm during most of Musharraf's tenure. The development was unparalleled and the economic growth unprecedented. It wasn't until Musharraf decided to develop Gawadar that our neighbors decided to use militants as armed proxies against Pakistan. You do realize that TTP is a terrorist organization trained, supported, financed and given targets by RAW and possibly some other intelligence agencies.....how can Musharraf be blamed for that?

Kalabagh is a political issue, when political forces do not want development, what was Musharraf supposed to do, impose Martial Law?? Besides, I do not recall facing the extreme load shedding and power failures that I recall from PPP tenure during Musharraf, not until KESC was privatized; after privatization, KESC's redundant and excess staff resorted to mischief, organized labor strikes, theft of cable and equipment, cutting and tripping of load etc., it was all well planned sabotage. Should we give in to that?

Oye khuda ka khof ka aur sach bola kar...meray munh se sunnay ga tu kuchh. Kahan se aajatay hain munh uthay ke jhoootay log. You're on my ignores list... liar

 

[Secret Service]

the obvious and logical reason is that he has not given the Command of any Corps by Army Chief. so there is no use of being a Lt general and long carrier, if you are not a commander.

 

[Zarvan]

the obvious and logical reason is that he has not given the Command of any Corps by Army Chief. so there is no use of being a Lt general and long carrier, if you are not a commander.

Many Lt Generals are appointed on these posts don't take retirement their is something else going most likely Saudi news is right