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With Lunar New Year just around the corner, we speak to a handful of longtime Chinese residents in Japan in an attempt to gain mutual understanding and insight into what both countries could learn from one other


Like tempestuous lovers, China and Japan have sparred for centuries but have remained interdependent in each other’s economy, politics, culture, language and arts.

However, in light of Japan’s ongoing diplomatic tussle with China over the Senkaku Islands and the government’s failure to put World War II atrocities behind it once and for all, it’s often forgotten that the country’s largest number of foreign visa holders are from China.

Chinese citizens accounted for 648,980, or almost 30 percent, of all foreign nationals living in Japan in 2013, a number that includes those working and studying in Japan. More than 150,000 Chinese nationals live in Tokyo, three times the number who reside in surrounding areas that include Kanagawa, Chiba and Saitama prefectures, as well as the city of Osaka.

Tourist numbers from China are also on the rise. In 2014, the number of Chinese tourists doubled from the previous year to 2.4 million — the third-largest nation of tourists after Taiwan and South Korea.

Given the proximity and intertwined histories of the two countries, it’s perhaps not surprising that there are a number of Chinese nationals who have called Japan home for a decade or more.

However, those profiled here have all made a commitment to the country that appears to be at odds with their motherland. By examining their perspectives and personal histories, it may be possible to gain mutual understanding and insight into what both countries could learn from one other.

Mei and Xia Zhang
Sisters Mei and Xia Zhang, both in their 40s, first came to Japan from Beijing in the late 1980s around the time of the crackdown in Tiananmen Square. At the time, their father was working at Kobe University on a three-year assignment. Xia attended a local public high school in Japan, while older sister Mei remained in Beijing to continue her university studies.

When the Tiananmen protests broke out in May 1989, Mei was in her third year of college. She fled Beijing to join her father and sister in Kobe the following year.

“Few companies in China were hiring college juniors and seniors that year. They were too afraid,” Mei says, referring to the government-led campaign that targeted those associated with the student protests. “What’s more, many college instructors left. We didn’t study very much that year. My college moved the first day of instruction from September to October, but even then there were no classes — just government briefings. I was concerned about the future.”

Although her mother, sister and father returned to Beijing shortly after her arrival, Mei remained in Japan, learned Japanese and graduated from Doshisha University in Kyoto with a doctorate in economics. Funding from the education ministry persuaded her to stay.

“I received scholarships all the time,” she says. “My father gave me ¥50,000 when I first came to Japan and that was the last time he offered me financial assistance. There were hard times, but it helped me learn to live independently.”

Having no intention of returning to China upon graduation, Mei worked for employment agency Recruit in Tokyo, met and married her American husband and became a mother of two.

Xia, meanwhile, joined her older sister in Tokyo after graduating from a university in Beijing and working for a Japanese company. She attended the University of Tokyo’s Graduate School of Public Policy while holding down part-time jobs — one of which was waitressing in a restaurant next to Mei’s office building.

Mei introduced Xia to her future Japanese husband, an employee of Recruit.

“Thanks to my sister, I got a job and found my husband,” Xia says.

They married while Xia was in graduate school, and she had their first of three children two months after graduation.

Mei now works at PricewaterhouseCoopers (PwC) in Tokyo while her sister works at a rapidly growing cable assembly company in Kawasaki that manufactures iPhone cables.

As the mother of three, Xia says rearing a child in Japan can be challenging compared to China.

“As a parent, I need to do everything I can to ensure my children fit in, being half-Chinese and half-Japanese,” she says. “In Japan, you need to put in a lot of effort to get along with other parents during volunteer work. By comparison, parent relationships in China are far less formal.”

Xia says it has been occasionally challenging to find a job both as a non-Japanese and mother in her 40s.

“Although things are changing, I always had difficulty finding jobs after finishing graduate school and later on, especially when the economy was sluggish.”

Mei’s frustration with Japan stems from its business environment.

“Both AIG (where Mei worked briefly) and PwC claim to be global companies, but they are Japanese companies in reality,” she says. “PwC has very few non-Japanese workers. Japanese managers do not listen to ideas from non-Japanese employees. They would say something like, ‘Your idea is interesting but it wouldn’t work in Japan.’ PwC is getting a little better, but even PwC Japan is still isolated. Of the 157 countries in which PwC has established a presence, only two use non-English languages in their daily business: Japan and South Korea. Everything is translated.

“There are many areas Chinese people can improve upon, but they are accustomed to living with various cultures and languages. They understand that people are diverse even though they may disagree with different ideas. In Japan, if you don’t accept a particular way of thinking, you have no place in the society.”

Mei remains positive the rift between Japan and China can be resolved. “I think this is just one of those waves,” she says. “In the long run, relations will improve.”

Where do they both see themselves in the future?

“I would like to go back to Beijing,” Mei says.

“I couldn’t,” Xia replies. “The prices are so high there now.”

Mei says her experiences in Japan have been life-changing.

“I will go back to China once my children have grown up and I am no longer responsible for them,” she says. “I love Japan and have had many great experiences in this country over the past 20-plus years, but I would like to return home. My experience of living in Japan, away from China, has given me confidence I can live anywhere in the world. One day, however, I would like to return to where my heart is.”

Yanfei Zhou
A native of Shenzhen and mother of three, Yanfei Zhou has lived in Japan since 1996. Although she arrived as a university exchange student in Okayama at the age of 21, she is now a researcher at an institute under the Ministry of Health, Labor and Welfare.

When she first arrived, Zhou didn’t speak a word of Japanese. She didn’t think this would be a problem because her courses were to be taught in English, a language in which she was fluent. She soon learned, however, that all of her courses were taught in Japanese — despite the school branding itself as an “international university.” Putting in a lot of hard work, Zhou became fluent within six months and pursued a master’s degree in sociology and a doctorate in economics at the University of Osaka.

Although she had originally planned to pursue graduate studies in the United States, Zhou was granted a government scholarship from the Ministry of Education, Culture, Sports, Science and Technology (MEXT) after six months.

“The MEXT program was so generous,” she says. “It provided me with living expenses of ¥180,000 per month on top of full tuition and research expenses until I finished the Ph.D. program. So I stayed in Japan to finish the Ph.D.” At the university, Zhou met her husband and married at the age of 24. They had their first child when Zhou was 25.

Zhou admits it has been difficult to ensure her children maintained both a Chinese and Japanese identity.

“I tried to teach them Mandarin, but it didn’t last. When I speak to them in Mandarin, they don’t respond,” she says. “My third child is too young to understand the idea of identity, but I tell my first and second children that they are half-Chinese and half-Japanese. I suspect they think of themselves more as Japanese.”

Zhou says she encountered difficulties securing a full-time position upon completing her doctorate.

“I held two different part-time jobs, but it took me some time to find a permanent position,” she says. “Osaka University is one of the former Imperial universities and, in general, it’s rather easy for the graduates to find employment. My peers found permanent jobs quickly and I felt a little desperate. I had a little difficulty overcoming this barrier as someone who is not Japanese. I now have a full-time job, but I meet a lot of international students who work part time here. They are academically excellent, but have a hard time finding permanent jobs. The situation remains the same.”

Zhou feels that the current tensions between Japan and China are grounded in a flawed account of history.

“I went to high school and college in China, and I know that history teachings in China are quite biased,” she says. “As a result, young people attack Japan, creating tension between the two countries.

“But, as a matter of fact, Chinese people in general like Japan. It’s sad that there is such misunderstanding. This can lead to anti-Chinese sentiment in Japan. There should be greater opportunity for mutual cultural exchanges.”

Zhou believes China will experience a few social problems in the not-too-distant future.

“I guess prosperity in China will last another 10 years at the most,” she says. “Meanwhile, issues surrounding China’s aging population will surface in 10 to 15 years time. China has enforced its one-child policy since 1980 and its birthrate in 2010 was 1.02, which is even lower than Japan’s (birthrate of) 1.3 or 1.4. The consequences of this policy will be visible in the near future and cause serious social problems. I believe China’s arrogance will last another 10 years, and then it will calm down.”

Zhou would like China to teach the next generation of Japanese how to be more proactive. “Young people in China are extremely ambitious, and are always aiming for the top,” she says. “I think Japan is losing its vitality, and it’s immediately obvious when I see my own children.”

She feels China should study Japanese policies on tackling the declining birthrate and aging society.

“Japan’s long-term health care system and its experience in building a senior-friendly society could help address similar issues in China,” she says. “China could also learn from Japan’s equal income redistribution system and social security.”

She expressed reservations about moving back to China in the future.

“I love Japan,” she says. “I dreamed of living in the U.S., and I did for a year, but I learned that Japan is the best country to live in. It’s beautiful, (Japanese) people are so polite and respectful, and it’s safe.”

Zhiqiang Jing and Jie Quan

Nanchang-native Zhiqiang Jing and Jie Quan of Beijing met at an education ministry-sponsored event on Ishikawa Prefecture’s Noto Peninsula in 1989, married in 1993 as postgrad students and had their only child in Fukuoka in 1994. Now based in Tokyo, Jing is a patent attorney and his wife, Quan, is a China liaison with national broadcaster NHK. While Jing arrived to Japan shortly before the Tiananmen protests to attend Kanazawa University, Quan arrived shortly after to attend Ryukyu University in Okinawa.

Born in 1963, Jing is the fifth of six children.

“There were no chances to travel abroad for my older siblings as the country was closed after the Cultural Revolution,” Jing says. “My older sister is 64 now and did not have the opportunity to attend college during the Cultural Revolution. My generation has experienced the most dramatic changes in Chinese history.

“When the Cultural Revolution reached its peak from 1967 to 1968, I was only 5 years old. My family were landlords and, being capitalists, became the target of the political unrest. The communist Red Guards attacked us on the grounds of having exploited the working class, and I still remember them looting our home.”

Upon graduating from university and attending postgrad school in Beijing, Jing was invited to study in Japan on a one-year program. Although he did not speak any Japanese upon his arrival, he was fluent within the year.

“I probably felt pressure to study,” he explains. “It wasn’t easy to return to China after the crackdown at Tiananmen Square.”

Jing was accepted to Kanazawa University on a full scholarship, which allowed him to remain in Japan.

Having arrived in Japan two months prior to the protests with no access to Chinese newspapers, Jing felt completely isolated from the news of the crackdown.

“I knew something had happened after watching TV, but I did not know for sure what it was,” he says. “I didn’t know how to ask anyone else about the incident, and they didn’t know how to explain it to me, either. There were no other international students around to ask. I was shocked and scared. I was fortunate to be in Japan at the time.”

Quan, meanwhile, fell upon Japan by accident. At university, she was hoping to be an English major, but was not accepted into the program.

“Students with low English grades were assigned to the Japanese Department, as Japanese was not very popular back then and they had very few applicants,” she says. After graduation and a brief stint working in Beijing, Quan enrolled at Ryukyu University.

“It was right after the protests at Tiananmen Square,” she says, “and there were restrictions on travel to other countries.”

After moving to Fukuoka, there were few employment opportunities to sustain a family of three on a single income with Quan now a stay-at-home mother. In 1995, therefore, they returned to Beijing.

Jing returned to Japan without Quan in 2007, attracted by the promise of a better education for their son.

He continued his work as a patent attorney, and his son was sent to middle school. Quan, in the meantime, stayed in Beijing and was commuting to Tokyo to see her family on the weekends.

“Our schedule was crazy,” she says. “(But) when our son was accepted into Keio High School in Tokyo and therefore would stay in Japan for another seven years through university, I realized we’d burn through our savings if I continued to fly between Beijing and Tokyo. So, I quit my job in Beijing and landed a job at NHK in Tokyo.”

Jing and Quan have managed to adjust to living in Japan and China.

“There are good things and not-so-great things about both countries,” Jing says. “The general sense of responsibility and neatness of people in Japan is quite impressive. Chinese people, by comparison, are rather rough-and-tumble. We think it’s OK to be this way and feel you don’t have to be so meticulous. In Japan, people dislike extreme positions, but in China you are expected to state your position clearly — ‘yes’ or ‘no.’ You are also expected to be polite in Japan. One must avoid being too honest or hurting someone’s feelings. It’s hard to know exactly what Japanese people are really thinking.

“There are 56 ethnic minority groups in China, and we are accustomed to the idea of co-existence and co-prosperity. To us, it’s normal to live with people of different races who speak different languages. In Japan, however, you are expected to complete your job according to the rules.

“China has numerous job opportunities. People have unlimited possibilities if they work as hard as they do in the United States. In Japan, you just do the same thing over and over again each day. It’s very repetitive. Everything in China is new, every day.”

Jing feels that the rivalry between Japan and China will dissipate in the next five to 10 years, as China’s growth supersedes that of Japan.

“If two men ride a horse, one must always ride behind,” he says. “The problem then is: Who will ride behind? Many Japanese citizens look down on modern China with a sense of superiority. These days, China’s gross domestic product is 2½ times that of Japan. It no longer needs charity. Despite the role reversal, Japan has been unable to change its way of thinking. Most Chinese do not care which country is superior, but they do acknowledge Japan’s advantages. China has a better economy, but Japan has more vibrant technology. It also has better regulations governing social welfare, democracy and the Constitution.”

Quan agrees. “China is energetic and Japan peaceful,” she says. “When I travel to China, I get quite excited. However, I always feel calm when I come back here. Both countries have things about them that the other can learn from. They should help each other out.”

Asked about their future ambitions, Jing says he wants to publish a textbook on modern Chinese history, having witnessed the turbulent times from the Cultural Revolution through globalization. The couple are also entertaining the idea of settling somewhere in the West — either Europe or North America.

“It can be hard to acclimatize to a different culture at first,” he says, “but once you live outside your own country, you can feel comfortable anywhere.”

Yangyue Fan

In the past 14 years, Yangyue Fan, a native of Beijing, has spent 10 years in Japan. Fan’s first job upon graduating from the Beijing University of Technology in 1998 with a degree in engineering and Japanese, was with a Japanese company in Beijing. In 2001, she came to Japan.

“At that time, many Japanese companies were looking for engineers in China,” Fan says. “I tried to behave like a typical Japanese person, especially at work. Almost everyone at my company was Japanese. I was the only girl on the technical team and they constantly expected me to serve tea. Women are typically expected to pour beer during company parties, but I couldn’t bring myself to do so.”

Fan returned to Beijing after three years when her job at a Kyoto company didn’t pan out. She didn’t think she’d ever get another chance to return to Japan, but she jumped at the opportunity to head back here after an IT company based in Tokyo offered her a position in 2008.

Asked about the current tensions between Japan and China, Fan expresses little concern.

“It will calm down one day,” Fan says. “People will soon start focusing on new things and forget. I don’t think this will become a war. I don’t see how anyone would benefit.”

Fan feels that both countries have a great deal to offer each other.

“I think Japanese people could be a little more ambitious,” she says.

“Last summer, I traveled to Thailand and met a Japanese university student there. He told me he wanted to go to postgrad school in Japan and had never thought about going overseas. When I was his age, I was so curious about the world outside of China,” she says.

“On the other hand, Japan can teach China about rules,” she says. “Over the past two or three decades, China has been evolving in many ways. During these changes, there was a lot of instability or uncertainty. There are too many people and it’s developing so quickly that governance cannot keep up. So sometimes you have to protect yourself. However, China should now create a system to make life easier for everyone.”

When asked about her future, Fan rules out a return to the mainland.

“I have no plans to return to China,” she says. “I think now I fit better in Japan than in Beijing. In Beijing, everyone’s always talking about making money. All my friends just talk about buying a house or apartment or better cars, or trying to put their kids in the best school. I don’t think I can live like that.”

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With Lunar New Year just around the corner, we speak to a handful of longtime Chinese residents in Japan in an attempt to gain mutual understanding and insight into what both countries could learn from one other


Like tempestuous lovers, China and Japan have sparred for centuries but have remained interdependent in each other’s economy, politics, culture, language and arts.

However, in light of Japan’s ongoing diplomatic tussle with China over the Senkaku Islands and the government’s failure to put World War II atrocities behind it once and for all, it’s often forgotten that the country’s largest number of foreign visa holders are from China.

Chinese citizens accounted for 648,980, or almost 30 percent, of all foreign nationals living in Japan in 2013, a number that includes those working and studying in Japan. More than 150,000 Chinese nationals live in Tokyo, three times the number who reside in surrounding areas that include Kanagawa, Chiba and Saitama prefectures, as well as the city of Osaka.

Tourist numbers from China are also on the rise. In 2014, the number of Chinese tourists doubled from the previous year to 2.4 million — the third-largest nation of tourists after Taiwan and South Korea.

Given the proximity and intertwined histories of the two countries, it’s perhaps not surprising that there are a number of Chinese nationals who have called Japan home for a decade or more.

However, those profiled here have all made a commitment to the country that appears to be at odds with their motherland. By examining their perspectives and personal histories, it may be possible to gain mutual understanding and insight into what both countries could learn from one other.

Mei and Xia Zhang
Sisters Mei and Xia Zhang, both in their 40s, first came to Japan from Beijing in the late 1980s around the time of the crackdown in Tiananmen Square. At the time, their father was working at Kobe University on a three-year assignment. Xia attended a local public high school in Japan, while older sister Mei remained in Beijing to continue her university studies.

When the Tiananmen protests broke out in May 1989, Mei was in her third year of college. She fled Beijing to join her father and sister in Kobe the following year.

“Few companies in China were hiring college juniors and seniors that year. They were too afraid,” Mei says, referring to the government-led campaign that targeted those associated with the student protests. “What’s more, many college instructors left. We didn’t study very much that year. My college moved the first day of instruction from September to October, but even then there were no classes — just government briefings. I was concerned about the future.”

Although her mother, sister and father returned to Beijing shortly after her arrival, Mei remained in Japan, learned Japanese and graduated from Doshisha University in Kyoto with a doctorate in economics. Funding from the education ministry persuaded her to stay.

“I received scholarships all the time,” she says. “My father gave me ¥50,000 when I first came to Japan and that was the last time he offered me financial assistance. There were hard times, but it helped me learn to live independently.”

Having no intention of returning to China upon graduation, Mei worked for employment agency Recruit in Tokyo, met and married her American husband and became a mother of two.

Xia, meanwhile, joined her older sister in Tokyo after graduating from a university in Beijing and working for a Japanese company. She attended the University of Tokyo’s Graduate School of Public Policy while holding down part-time jobs — one of which was waitressing in a restaurant next to Mei’s office building.

Mei introduced Xia to her future Japanese husband, an employee of Recruit.

“Thanks to my sister, I got a job and found my husband,” Xia says.

They married while Xia was in graduate school, and she had their first of three children two months after graduation.

Mei now works at PricewaterhouseCoopers (PwC) in Tokyo while her sister works at a rapidly growing cable assembly company in Kawasaki that manufactures iPhone cables.

As the mother of three, Xia says rearing a child in Japan can be challenging compared to China.

“As a parent, I need to do everything I can to ensure my children fit in, being half-Chinese and half-Japanese,” she says. “In Japan, you need to put in a lot of effort to get along with other parents during volunteer work. By comparison, parent relationships in China are far less formal.”

Xia says it has been occasionally challenging to find a job both as a non-Japanese and mother in her 40s.

“Although things are changing, I always had difficulty finding jobs after finishing graduate school and later on, especially when the economy was sluggish.”

Mei’s frustration with Japan stems from its business environment.

“Both AIG (where Mei worked briefly) and PwC claim to be global companies, but they are Japanese companies in reality,” she says. “PwC has very few non-Japanese workers. Japanese managers do not listen to ideas from non-Japanese employees. They would say something like, ‘Your idea is interesting but it wouldn’t work in Japan.’ PwC is getting a little better, but even PwC Japan is still isolated. Of the 157 countries in which PwC has established a presence, only two use non-English languages in their daily business: Japan and South Korea. Everything is translated.

“There are many areas Chinese people can improve upon, but they are accustomed to living with various cultures and languages. They understand that people are diverse even though they may disagree with different ideas. In Japan, if you don’t accept a particular way of thinking, you have no place in the society.”

Mei remains positive the rift between Japan and China can be resolved. “I think this is just one of those waves,” she says. “In the long run, relations will improve.”

Where do they both see themselves in the future?

“I would like to go back to Beijing,” Mei says.

“I couldn’t,” Xia replies. “The prices are so high there now.”

Mei says her experiences in Japan have been life-changing.

“I will go back to China once my children have grown up and I am no longer responsible for them,” she says. “I love Japan and have had many great experiences in this country over the past 20-plus years, but I would like to return home. My experience of living in Japan, away from China, has given me confidence I can live anywhere in the world. One day, however, I would like to return to where my heart is.”

Yanfei Zhou
A native of Shenzhen and mother of three, Yanfei Zhou has lived in Japan since 1996. Although she arrived as a university exchange student in Okayama at the age of 21, she is now a researcher at an institute under the Ministry of Health, Labor and Welfare.

When she first arrived, Zhou didn’t speak a word of Japanese. She didn’t think this would be a problem because her courses were to be taught in English, a language in which she was fluent. She soon learned, however, that all of her courses were taught in Japanese — despite the school branding itself as an “international university.” Putting in a lot of hard work, Zhou became fluent within six months and pursued a master’s degree in sociology and a doctorate in economics at the University of Osaka.

Although she had originally planned to pursue graduate studies in the United States, Zhou was granted a government scholarship from the Ministry of Education, Culture, Sports, Science and Technology (MEXT) after six months.

“The MEXT program was so generous,” she says. “It provided me with living expenses of ¥180,000 per month on top of full tuition and research expenses until I finished the Ph.D. program. So I stayed in Japan to finish the Ph.D.” At the university, Zhou met her husband and married at the age of 24. They had their first child when Zhou was 25.

Zhou admits it has been difficult to ensure her children maintained both a Chinese and Japanese identity.

“I tried to teach them Mandarin, but it didn’t last. When I speak to them in Mandarin, they don’t respond,” she says. “My third child is too young to understand the idea of identity, but I tell my first and second children that they are half-Chinese and half-Japanese. I suspect they think of themselves more as Japanese.”

Zhou says she encountered difficulties securing a full-time position upon completing her doctorate.

“I held two different part-time jobs, but it took me some time to find a permanent position,” she says. “Osaka University is one of the former Imperial universities and, in general, it’s rather easy for the graduates to find employment. My peers found permanent jobs quickly and I felt a little desperate. I had a little difficulty overcoming this barrier as someone who is not Japanese. I now have a full-time job, but I meet a lot of international students who work part time here. They are academically excellent, but have a hard time finding permanent jobs. The situation remains the same.”

Zhou feels that the current tensions between Japan and China are grounded in a flawed account of history.

“I went to high school and college in China, and I know that history teachings in China are quite biased,” she says. “As a result, young people attack Japan, creating tension between the two countries.

“But, as a matter of fact, Chinese people in general like Japan. It’s sad that there is such misunderstanding. This can lead to anti-Chinese sentiment in Japan. There should be greater opportunity for mutual cultural exchanges.”

Zhou believes China will experience a few social problems in the not-too-distant future.

“I guess prosperity in China will last another 10 years at the most,” she says. “Meanwhile, issues surrounding China’s aging population will surface in 10 to 15 years time. China has enforced its one-child policy since 1980 and its birthrate in 2010 was 1.02, which is even lower than Japan’s (birthrate of) 1.3 or 1.4. The consequences of this policy will be visible in the near future and cause serious social problems. I believe China’s arrogance will last another 10 years, and then it will calm down.”

Zhou would like China to teach the next generation of Japanese how to be more proactive. “Young people in China are extremely ambitious, and are always aiming for the top,” she says. “I think Japan is losing its vitality, and it’s immediately obvious when I see my own children.”

She feels China should study Japanese policies on tackling the declining birthrate and aging society.

“Japan’s long-term health care system and its experience in building a senior-friendly society could help address similar issues in China,” she says. “China could also learn from Japan’s equal income redistribution system and social security.”

She expressed reservations about moving back to China in the future.

“I love Japan,” she says. “I dreamed of living in the U.S., and I did for a year, but I learned that Japan is the best country to live in. It’s beautiful, (Japanese) people are so polite and respectful, and it’s safe.”

Zhiqiang Jing and Jie Quan

Nanchang-native Zhiqiang Jing and Jie Quan of Beijing met at an education ministry-sponsored event on Ishikawa Prefecture’s Noto Peninsula in 1989, married in 1993 as postgrad students and had their only child in Fukuoka in 1994. Now based in Tokyo, Jing is a patent attorney and his wife, Quan, is a China liaison with national broadcaster NHK. While Jing arrived to Japan shortly before the Tiananmen protests to attend Kanazawa University, Quan arrived shortly after to attend Ryukyu University in Okinawa.

Born in 1963, Jing is the fifth of six children.

“There were no chances to travel abroad for my older siblings as the country was closed after the Cultural Revolution,” Jing says. “My older sister is 64 now and did not have the opportunity to attend college during the Cultural Revolution. My generation has experienced the most dramatic changes in Chinese history.

“When the Cultural Revolution reached its peak from 1967 to 1968, I was only 5 years old. My family were landlords and, being capitalists, became the target of the political unrest. The communist Red Guards attacked us on the grounds of having exploited the working class, and I still remember them looting our home.”

Upon graduating from university and attending postgrad school in Beijing, Jing was invited to study in Japan on a one-year program. Although he did not speak any Japanese upon his arrival, he was fluent within the year.

“I probably felt pressure to study,” he explains. “It wasn’t easy to return to China after the crackdown at Tiananmen Square.”

Jing was accepted to Kanazawa University on a full scholarship, which allowed him to remain in Japan.

Having arrived in Japan two months prior to the protests with no access to Chinese newspapers, Jing felt completely isolated from the news of the crackdown.

“I knew something had happened after watching TV, but I did not know for sure what it was,” he says. “I didn’t know how to ask anyone else about the incident, and they didn’t know how to explain it to me, either. There were no other international students around to ask. I was shocked and scared. I was fortunate to be in Japan at the time.”

Quan, meanwhile, fell upon Japan by accident. At university, she was hoping to be an English major, but was not accepted into the program.

“Students with low English grades were assigned to the Japanese Department, as Japanese was not very popular back then and they had very few applicants,” she says. After graduation and a brief stint working in Beijing, Quan enrolled at Ryukyu University.

“It was right after the protests at Tiananmen Square,” she says, “and there were restrictions on travel to other countries.”

After moving to Fukuoka, there were few employment opportunities to sustain a family of three on a single income with Quan now a stay-at-home mother. In 1995, therefore, they returned to Beijing.

Jing returned to Japan without Quan in 2007, attracted by the promise of a better education for their son.

He continued his work as a patent attorney, and his son was sent to middle school. Quan, in the meantime, stayed in Beijing and was commuting to Tokyo to see her family on the weekends.

“Our schedule was crazy,” she says. “(But) when our son was accepted into Keio High School in Tokyo and therefore would stay in Japan for another seven years through university, I realized we’d burn through our savings if I continued to fly between Beijing and Tokyo. So, I quit my job in Beijing and landed a job at NHK in Tokyo.”

Jing and Quan have managed to adjust to living in Japan and China.

“There are good things and not-so-great things about both countries,” Jing says. “The general sense of responsibility and neatness of people in Japan is quite impressive. Chinese people, by comparison, are rather rough-and-tumble. We think it’s OK to be this way and feel you don’t have to be so meticulous. In Japan, people dislike extreme positions, but in China you are expected to state your position clearly — ‘yes’ or ‘no.’ You are also expected to be polite in Japan. One must avoid being too honest or hurting someone’s feelings. It’s hard to know exactly what Japanese people are really thinking.

“There are 56 ethnic minority groups in China, and we are accustomed to the idea of co-existence and co-prosperity. To us, it’s normal to live with people of different races who speak different languages. In Japan, however, you are expected to complete your job according to the rules.

“China has numerous job opportunities. People have unlimited possibilities if they work as hard as they do in the United States. In Japan, you just do the same thing over and over again each day. It’s very repetitive. Everything in China is new, every day.”

Jing feels that the rivalry between Japan and China will dissipate in the next five to 10 years, as China’s growth supersedes that of Japan.

“If two men ride a horse, one must always ride behind,” he says. “The problem then is: Who will ride behind? Many Japanese citizens look down on modern China with a sense of superiority. These days, China’s gross domestic product is 2½ times that of Japan. It no longer needs charity. Despite the role reversal, Japan has been unable to change its way of thinking. Most Chinese do not care which country is superior, but they do acknowledge Japan’s advantages. China has a better economy, but Japan has more vibrant technology. It also has better regulations governing social welfare, democracy and the Constitution.”

Quan agrees. “China is energetic and Japan peaceful,” she says. “When I travel to China, I get quite excited. However, I always feel calm when I come back here. Both countries have things about them that the other can learn from. They should help each other out.”

Asked about their future ambitions, Jing says he wants to publish a textbook on modern Chinese history, having witnessed the turbulent times from the Cultural Revolution through globalization. The couple are also entertaining the idea of settling somewhere in the West — either Europe or North America.

“It can be hard to acclimatize to a different culture at first,” he says, “but once you live outside your own country, you can feel comfortable anywhere.”

Yangyue Fan

In the past 14 years, Yangyue Fan, a native of Beijing, has spent 10 years in Japan. Fan’s first job upon graduating from the Beijing University of Technology in 1998 with a degree in engineering and Japanese, was with a Japanese company in Beijing. In 2001, she came to Japan.

“At that time, many Japanese companies were looking for engineers in China,” Fan says. “I tried to behave like a typical Japanese person, especially at work. Almost everyone at my company was Japanese. I was the only girl on the technical team and they constantly expected me to serve tea. Women are typically expected to pour beer during company parties, but I couldn’t bring myself to do so.”

Fan returned to Beijing after three years when her job at a Kyoto company didn’t pan out. She didn’t think she’d ever get another chance to return to Japan, but she jumped at the opportunity to head back here after an IT company based in Tokyo offered her a position in 2008.

Asked about the current tensions between Japan and China, Fan expresses little concern.

“It will calm down one day,” Fan says. “People will soon start focusing on new things and forget. I don’t think this will become a war. I don’t see how anyone would benefit.”

Fan feels that both countries have a great deal to offer each other.

“I think Japanese people could be a little more ambitious,” she says.

“Last summer, I traveled to Thailand and met a Japanese university student there. He told me he wanted to go to postgrad school in Japan and had never thought about going overseas. When I was his age, I was so curious about the world outside of China,” she says.

“On the other hand, Japan can teach China about rules,” she says. “Over the past two or three decades, China has been evolving in many ways. During these changes, there was a lot of instability or uncertainty. There are too many people and it’s developing so quickly that governance cannot keep up. So sometimes you have to protect yourself. However, China should now create a system to make life easier for everyone.”

When asked about her future, Fan rules out a return to the mainland.

“I have no plans to return to China,” she says. “I think now I fit better in Japan than in Beijing. In Beijing, everyone’s always talking about making money. All my friends just talk about buying a house or apartment or better cars, or trying to put their kids in the best school. I don’t think I can live like that.”

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Below is Jin Meiling, a "Chinese" in Japan. She is more extreme. Go to 2.10 minutes and watch her say "I will feel sicko to be a Chinese even I am dead". And she continue to say how much she love Japan.

And when asked why she hate China so much, she said "China is simply hateful".

 
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Zhou feels that the current tensions between Japan and China are grounded in a flawed account of history.

“I went to high school and college in China, and I know that history teachings in China are quite biased,” she says. “As a result, young people attack Japan, creating tension between the two countries.

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Mei’s frustration with Japan stems from its business environment.

“Both AIG (where Mei worked briefly) and PwC claim to be global companies, but they are Japanese companies in reality,” she says. “PwC has very few non-Japanese workers. Japanese managers do not listen to ideas from non-Japanese employees. They would say something like, ‘Your idea is interesting but it wouldn’t work in Japan.’ PwC is getting a little better, but even PwC Japan is still isolated. Of the 157 countries in which PwC has established a presence, only two use non-English languages in their daily business: Japan and South Korea. Everything is translated.

“There are many areas Chinese people can improve upon, but they are accustomed to living with various cultures and languages. They understand that people are diverse even though they may disagree with different ideas. In Japan, if you don’t accept a particular way of thinking, you have no place in the society.”

This is a problem that has frustrated me since I started traveling to Japan in the 1990s. It's a mistake to think that Japan has always been this rigid, or that it will always be this rigid. This work culture is relatively new, as Japan displayed far more dynamism and openness to new methodologies during the Meiji Restoration period and then in the post-war period. Abenomics, Womenomics, or demographics will not matter if Japanese work culture isn't flexible enough to adapt to the needs of the present. It annoys me that American multi-nationals are changed by Japan instead of the other way around, but when I read articles like this, it makes me worry that the task of turning Japan around may be insurmountable:

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/25/world/asia/japanese-companies-seek-international-graduates.html

The Japanese hiring approach has its advantages for entry-level candidates. Rather than recruiting to fill specific openings and vacancies, as many Western companies do, Japanese corporations hire a large number of fresh graduates annually and train them into a productive workforce. Newly minted graduates have a shot at landing a job at such marquee names as Toyota Motors, which engaged 600 new hires in 2013.

Another advantage is that companies do not expect their new recruits to hit the ground running. They are willing to hire employees without skills and invest in building their capabilities, hoping to reap the benefits over time.


Sounds like a great system, right? Unfortunately, the drawbacks are too great:

Mr. Taguchi, who worked for Mitsui Marine and Fire Insurance for decades before retiring, agreed. “Corporations don’t think universities prepare students for a job,” he said, “so they have comprehensive in-house training systems.”

Japanese universities aren't getting the job done. Even worse, lack of meritocracy:

The Japanese approach has several consequences for career development. One is that midcareer hiring is relatively rare — there’s an expectation that young recruits will rise into management positions through in-house training and experience. Another is that promotion often comes slowly in the early years; five to seven years is the minimum to reach the lowest rung in a managerial hierarchy, said Mr. Ichikawa, the Pasona executive.

That can lead to defections: Foreign companies operating in Japan often hire internationals away with attractive salaries and positions, Mr. Ichikawa said.


“There are good things and not-so-great things about both countries,” Jing says. “The general sense of responsibility and neatness of people in Japan is quite impressive. Chinese people, by comparison, are rather rough-and-tumble. We think it’s OK to be this way and feel you don’t have to be so meticulous. In Japan, people dislike extreme positions, but in China you are expected to state your position clearly — ‘yes’ or ‘no.’ You are also expected to be polite in Japan. One must avoid being too honest or hurting someone’s feelings. It’s hard to know exactly what Japanese people are really thinking.

“There are 56 ethnic minority groups in China, and we are accustomed to the idea of co-existence and co-prosperity. To us, it’s normal to live with people of different races who speak different languages. In Japan, however, you are expected to complete your job according to the rules.

“China has numerous job opportunities. People have unlimited possibilities if they work as hard as they do in the United States. In Japan, you just do the same thing over and over again each day. It’s very repetitive. Everything in China is new, every day.”

@Chinese-Dragon knows that in the first few months of my membership on PDF, I consistently pointed out that China is the most "American" of Asian countries, and whenever I read passages like the one above, it reminds me just how similar we are. It's a shame that history turned out the way it did, because I firmly believe that all of the necessary cultural factors are there to forge a strong relationship. Let's hope there's an opportunity for that in the future. Perhaps Japan can be the gateway for such a transformation in China-US relations, if it is successful in mending its own relationship with China.

Great article, @Nihonjin1051 , thanks.
 
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“As a parent, I need to do everything I can to ensure my children fit in, being half-Chinese and half-Japanese,” she says. “In Japan, you need to put in a lot of effort to get along with other parents during volunteer work. By comparison, parent relationships in China are far less formal.”

Impressive. Not only does she hold a Doctoral Degree, she also is a mother of three children? In other words; find a Chinese wife ! No doubt the offspring of Japanese man and Chinese woman will be super smart, dynamic, fusion of China and Japan. Plus, did i mention Chinese-Japanese mixes are beautiful? ;)

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Below is Jin Meiling, a "Chinese" in Japan. She is more extreme. Go to 2.17 minutes and watch her say "I will feel sicko to be a Chinese even I am dead". And she continue to say how much she love Japan.

And when asked why she hate China so much, she said "China is simply hateful".


Many oversea Chinese hate CCP, there is one guy who is the second child of his family and unable to get ID, and his family is poor, can't afford the fine of another child. Finally his family got broken, so he hates CCP and China.

This work culture is relatively new, as Japan displayed far more dynamism and openness to new methodologies during the Meiji Restoration period and then in the post-war period. Abenomics, Womenomics, or demographics will not matter if Japanese work culture isn't flexible enough to adapt to the needs of the present.

But afaik, many Japanese women still refuse to work. They'd rather stay at home.
 
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Many oversea Chinese hate CCP, there is one guy who is the second child of his family and unable to get ID, and his family is poor, can't afford the fine of another child. Finally his family got broken, so he hates CCP and China.

Chinese is famous for race traitors especially if Chinese remain in an area far more advance than China. I think this is bad but there is some good side we need to think of.

Kuan Yew is a race traitor.

Also because of race traitors as catalyst, Chinese is able to integrate.

The Islamo have fewer race traitors and they are passionate about their tradition on building caliphate, hijab and jihad. That makes them backward.

The problem is how to strike a balance on patriotism and race traitors.
 
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Chinese is famous for race traitors especially if Chinese remain in an area far more advance than China. I think this is bad but there is some good side we need to think of.

Kuan Yew is a race traitor.

Also because of race traitors as catalyst, Chinese is able to integrate.

The Islamo have fewer race traitors and they are passionate about their tradition on building caliphate, hijab and jihad. That makes them backward.

The problem is how to strike a balance on patriotism and race traitors.

The term 'race traitor' does not fit. Chinese and Japanese are of the same race, genetically we share similar bloodlines as well. Remember Japanese and Chinese are both Northeast Asians, and of the Mongoloid Race. Remember that the proto-Japanese (during Yayoi Jidai) came from mainland China, specifically Zhejiang region of China. The ancestors of modern day Japanese are people from mainland 'China'.

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With Lunar New Year just around the corner, we speak to a handful of longtime Chinese residents in Japan in an attempt to gain mutual understanding and insight into what both countries could learn from one other


Like tempestuous lovers, China and Japan have sparred for centuries but have remained interdependent in each other’s economy, politics, culture, language and arts.

However, in light of Japan’s ongoing diplomatic tussle with China over the Senkaku Islands and the government’s failure to put World War II atrocities behind it once and for all, it’s often forgotten that the country’s largest number of foreign visa holders are from China.

Chinese citizens accounted for 648,980, or almost 30 percent, of all foreign nationals living in Japan in 2013, a number that includes those working and studying in Japan. More than 150,000 Chinese nationals live in Tokyo, three times the number who reside in surrounding areas that include Kanagawa, Chiba and Saitama prefectures, as well as the city of Osaka.

Tourist numbers from China are also on the rise. In 2014, the number of Chinese tourists doubled from the previous year to 2.4 million — the third-largest nation of tourists after Taiwan and South Korea.

Given the proximity and intertwined histories of the two countries, it’s perhaps not surprising that there are a number of Chinese nationals who have called Japan home for a decade or more.

However, those profiled here have all made a commitment to the country that appears to be at odds with their motherland. By examining their perspectives and personal histories, it may be possible to gain mutual understanding and insight into what both countries could learn from one other.

Mei and Xia Zhang
Sisters Mei and Xia Zhang, both in their 40s, first came to Japan from Beijing in the late 1980s around the time of the crackdown in Tiananmen Square. At the time, their father was working at Kobe University on a three-year assignment. Xia attended a local public high school in Japan, while older sister Mei remained in Beijing to continue her university studies.

When the Tiananmen protests broke out in May 1989, Mei was in her third year of college. She fled Beijing to join her father and sister in Kobe the following year.

“Few companies in China were hiring college juniors and seniors that year. They were too afraid,” Mei says, referring to the government-led campaign that targeted those associated with the student protests. “What’s more, many college instructors left. We didn’t study very much that year. My college moved the first day of instruction from September to October, but even then there were no classes — just government briefings. I was concerned about the future.”

Although her mother, sister and father returned to Beijing shortly after her arrival, Mei remained in Japan, learned Japanese and graduated from Doshisha University in Kyoto with a doctorate in economics. Funding from the education ministry persuaded her to stay.

“I received scholarships all the time,” she says. “My father gave me ¥50,000 when I first came to Japan and that was the last time he offered me financial assistance. There were hard times, but it helped me learn to live independently.”

Having no intention of returning to China upon graduation, Mei worked for employment agency Recruit in Tokyo, met and married her American husband and became a mother of two.

Xia, meanwhile, joined her older sister in Tokyo after graduating from a university in Beijing and working for a Japanese company. She attended the University of Tokyo’s Graduate School of Public Policy while holding down part-time jobs — one of which was waitressing in a restaurant next to Mei’s office building.

Mei introduced Xia to her future Japanese husband, an employee of Recruit.

“Thanks to my sister, I got a job and found my husband,” Xia says.

They married while Xia was in graduate school, and she had their first of three children two months after graduation.

Mei now works at PricewaterhouseCoopers (PwC) in Tokyo while her sister works at a rapidly growing cable assembly company in Kawasaki that manufactures iPhone cables.

As the mother of three, Xia says rearing a child in Japan can be challenging compared to China.

“As a parent, I need to do everything I can to ensure my children fit in, being half-Chinese and half-Japanese,” she says. “In Japan, you need to put in a lot of effort to get along with other parents during volunteer work. By comparison, parent relationships in China are far less formal.”

Xia says it has been occasionally challenging to find a job both as a non-Japanese and mother in her 40s.

“Although things are changing, I always had difficulty finding jobs after finishing graduate school and later on, especially when the economy was sluggish.”

Mei’s frustration with Japan stems from its business environment.

“Both AIG (where Mei worked briefly) and PwC claim to be global companies, but they are Japanese companies in reality,” she says. “PwC has very few non-Japanese workers. Japanese managers do not listen to ideas from non-Japanese employees. They would say something like, ‘Your idea is interesting but it wouldn’t work in Japan.’ PwC is getting a little better, but even PwC Japan is still isolated. Of the 157 countries in which PwC has established a presence, only two use non-English languages in their daily business: Japan and South Korea. Everything is translated.

“There are many areas Chinese people can improve upon, but they are accustomed to living with various cultures and languages. They understand that people are diverse even though they may disagree with different ideas. In Japan, if you don’t accept a particular way of thinking, you have no place in the society.”

Mei remains positive the rift between Japan and China can be resolved. “I think this is just one of those waves,” she says. “In the long run, relations will improve.”

Where do they both see themselves in the future?

“I would like to go back to Beijing,” Mei says.

“I couldn’t,” Xia replies. “The prices are so high there now.”

Mei says her experiences in Japan have been life-changing.

“I will go back to China once my children have grown up and I am no longer responsible for them,” she says. “I love Japan and have had many great experiences in this country over the past 20-plus years, but I would like to return home. My experience of living in Japan, away from China, has given me confidence I can live anywhere in the world. One day, however, I would like to return to where my heart is.”

Yanfei Zhou
A native of Shenzhen and mother of three, Yanfei Zhou has lived in Japan since 1996. Although she arrived as a university exchange student in Okayama at the age of 21, she is now a researcher at an institute under the Ministry of Health, Labor and Welfare.

When she first arrived, Zhou didn’t speak a word of Japanese. She didn’t think this would be a problem because her courses were to be taught in English, a language in which she was fluent. She soon learned, however, that all of her courses were taught in Japanese — despite the school branding itself as an “international university.” Putting in a lot of hard work, Zhou became fluent within six months and pursued a master’s degree in sociology and a doctorate in economics at the University of Osaka.

Although she had originally planned to pursue graduate studies in the United States, Zhou was granted a government scholarship from the Ministry of Education, Culture, Sports, Science and Technology (MEXT) after six months.

“The MEXT program was so generous,” she says. “It provided me with living expenses of ¥180,000 per month on top of full tuition and research expenses until I finished the Ph.D. program. So I stayed in Japan to finish the Ph.D.” At the university, Zhou met her husband and married at the age of 24. They had their first child when Zhou was 25.

Zhou admits it has been difficult to ensure her children maintained both a Chinese and Japanese identity.

“I tried to teach them Mandarin, but it didn’t last. When I speak to them in Mandarin, they don’t respond,” she says. “My third child is too young to understand the idea of identity, but I tell my first and second children that they are half-Chinese and half-Japanese. I suspect they think of themselves more as Japanese.”

Zhou says she encountered difficulties securing a full-time position upon completing her doctorate.

“I held two different part-time jobs, but it took me some time to find a permanent position,” she says. “Osaka University is one of the former Imperial universities and, in general, it’s rather easy for the graduates to find employment. My peers found permanent jobs quickly and I felt a little desperate. I had a little difficulty overcoming this barrier as someone who is not Japanese. I now have a full-time job, but I meet a lot of international students who work part time here. They are academically excellent, but have a hard time finding permanent jobs. The situation remains the same.”

Zhou feels that the current tensions between Japan and China are grounded in a flawed account of history.

“I went to high school and college in China, and I know that history teachings in China are quite biased,” she says. “As a result, young people attack Japan, creating tension between the two countries.

“But, as a matter of fact, Chinese people in general like Japan. It’s sad that there is such misunderstanding. This can lead to anti-Chinese sentiment in Japan. There should be greater opportunity for mutual cultural exchanges.”

Zhou believes China will experience a few social problems in the not-too-distant future.

“I guess prosperity in China will last another 10 years at the most,” she says. “Meanwhile, issues surrounding China’s aging population will surface in 10 to 15 years time. China has enforced its one-child policy since 1980 and its birthrate in 2010 was 1.02, which is even lower than Japan’s (birthrate of) 1.3 or 1.4. The consequences of this policy will be visible in the near future and cause serious social problems. I believe China’s arrogance will last another 10 years, and then it will calm down.”

Zhou would like China to teach the next generation of Japanese how to be more proactive. “Young people in China are extremely ambitious, and are always aiming for the top,” she says. “I think Japan is losing its vitality, and it’s immediately obvious when I see my own children.”

She feels China should study Japanese policies on tackling the declining birthrate and aging society.

“Japan’s long-term health care system and its experience in building a senior-friendly society could help address similar issues in China,” she says. “China could also learn from Japan’s equal income redistribution system and social security.”

She expressed reservations about moving back to China in the future.

“I love Japan,” she says. “I dreamed of living in the U.S., and I did for a year, but I learned that Japan is the best country to live in. It’s beautiful, (Japanese) people are so polite and respectful, and it’s safe.”

Zhiqiang Jing and Jie Quan

Nanchang-native Zhiqiang Jing and Jie Quan of Beijing met at an education ministry-sponsored event on Ishikawa Prefecture’s Noto Peninsula in 1989, married in 1993 as postgrad students and had their only child in Fukuoka in 1994. Now based in Tokyo, Jing is a patent attorney and his wife, Quan, is a China liaison with national broadcaster NHK. While Jing arrived to Japan shortly before the Tiananmen protests to attend Kanazawa University, Quan arrived shortly after to attend Ryukyu University in Okinawa.

Born in 1963, Jing is the fifth of six children.

“There were no chances to travel abroad for my older siblings as the country was closed after the Cultural Revolution,” Jing says. “My older sister is 64 now and did not have the opportunity to attend college during the Cultural Revolution. My generation has experienced the most dramatic changes in Chinese history.

“When the Cultural Revolution reached its peak from 1967 to 1968, I was only 5 years old. My family were landlords and, being capitalists, became the target of the political unrest. The communist Red Guards attacked us on the grounds of having exploited the working class, and I still remember them looting our home.”

Upon graduating from university and attending postgrad school in Beijing, Jing was invited to study in Japan on a one-year program. Although he did not speak any Japanese upon his arrival, he was fluent within the year.

“I probably felt pressure to study,” he explains. “It wasn’t easy to return to China after the crackdown at Tiananmen Square.”

Jing was accepted to Kanazawa University on a full scholarship, which allowed him to remain in Japan.

Having arrived in Japan two months prior to the protests with no access to Chinese newspapers, Jing felt completely isolated from the news of the crackdown.

“I knew something had happened after watching TV, but I did not know for sure what it was,” he says. “I didn’t know how to ask anyone else about the incident, and they didn’t know how to explain it to me, either. There were no other international students around to ask. I was shocked and scared. I was fortunate to be in Japan at the time.”

Quan, meanwhile, fell upon Japan by accident. At university, she was hoping to be an English major, but was not accepted into the program.

“Students with low English grades were assigned to the Japanese Department, as Japanese was not very popular back then and they had very few applicants,” she says. After graduation and a brief stint working in Beijing, Quan enrolled at Ryukyu University.

“It was right after the protests at Tiananmen Square,” she says, “and there were restrictions on travel to other countries.”

After moving to Fukuoka, there were few employment opportunities to sustain a family of three on a single income with Quan now a stay-at-home mother. In 1995, therefore, they returned to Beijing.

Jing returned to Japan without Quan in 2007, attracted by the promise of a better education for their son.

He continued his work as a patent attorney, and his son was sent to middle school. Quan, in the meantime, stayed in Beijing and was commuting to Tokyo to see her family on the weekends.

“Our schedule was crazy,” she says. “(But) when our son was accepted into Keio High School in Tokyo and therefore would stay in Japan for another seven years through university, I realized we’d burn through our savings if I continued to fly between Beijing and Tokyo. So, I quit my job in Beijing and landed a job at NHK in Tokyo.”

Jing and Quan have managed to adjust to living in Japan and China.

“There are good things and not-so-great things about both countries,” Jing says. “The general sense of responsibility and neatness of people in Japan is quite impressive. Chinese people, by comparison, are rather rough-and-tumble. We think it’s OK to be this way and feel you don’t have to be so meticulous. In Japan, people dislike extreme positions, but in China you are expected to state your position clearly — ‘yes’ or ‘no.’ You are also expected to be polite in Japan. One must avoid being too honest or hurting someone’s feelings. It’s hard to know exactly what Japanese people are really thinking.

“There are 56 ethnic minority groups in China, and we are accustomed to the idea of co-existence and co-prosperity. To us, it’s normal to live with people of different races who speak different languages. In Japan, however, you are expected to complete your job according to the rules.

“China has numerous job opportunities. People have unlimited possibilities if they work as hard as they do in the United States. In Japan, you just do the same thing over and over again each day. It’s very repetitive. Everything in China is new, every day.”

Jing feels that the rivalry between Japan and China will dissipate in the next five to 10 years, as China’s growth supersedes that of Japan.

“If two men ride a horse, one must always ride behind,” he says. “The problem then is: Who will ride behind? Many Japanese citizens look down on modern China with a sense of superiority. These days, China’s gross domestic product is 2½ times that of Japan. It no longer needs charity. Despite the role reversal, Japan has been unable to change its way of thinking. Most Chinese do not care which country is superior, but they do acknowledge Japan’s advantages. China has a better economy, but Japan has more vibrant technology. It also has better regulations governing social welfare, democracy and the Constitution.”

Quan agrees. “China is energetic and Japan peaceful,” she says. “When I travel to China, I get quite excited. However, I always feel calm when I come back here. Both countries have things about them that the other can learn from. They should help each other out.”

Asked about their future ambitions, Jing says he wants to publish a textbook on modern Chinese history, having witnessed the turbulent times from the Cultural Revolution through globalization. The couple are also entertaining the idea of settling somewhere in the West — either Europe or North America.

“It can be hard to acclimatize to a different culture at first,” he says, “but once you live outside your own country, you can feel comfortable anywhere.”

Yangyue Fan

In the past 14 years, Yangyue Fan, a native of Beijing, has spent 10 years in Japan. Fan’s first job upon graduating from the Beijing University of Technology in 1998 with a degree in engineering and Japanese, was with a Japanese company in Beijing. In 2001, she came to Japan.

“At that time, many Japanese companies were looking for engineers in China,” Fan says. “I tried to behave like a typical Japanese person, especially at work. Almost everyone at my company was Japanese. I was the only girl on the technical team and they constantly expected me to serve tea. Women are typically expected to pour beer during company parties, but I couldn’t bring myself to do so.”

Fan returned to Beijing after three years when her job at a Kyoto company didn’t pan out. She didn’t think she’d ever get another chance to return to Japan, but she jumped at the opportunity to head back here after an IT company based in Tokyo offered her a position in 2008.

Asked about the current tensions between Japan and China, Fan expresses little concern.

“It will calm down one day,” Fan says. “People will soon start focusing on new things and forget. I don’t think this will become a war. I don’t see how anyone would benefit.”

Fan feels that both countries have a great deal to offer each other.

“I think Japanese people could be a little more ambitious,” she says.

“Last summer, I traveled to Thailand and met a Japanese university student there. He told me he wanted to go to postgrad school in Japan and had never thought about going overseas. When I was his age, I was so curious about the world outside of China,” she says.

“On the other hand, Japan can teach China about rules,” she says. “Over the past two or three decades, China has been evolving in many ways. During these changes, there was a lot of instability or uncertainty. There are too many people and it’s developing so quickly that governance cannot keep up. So sometimes you have to protect yourself. However, China should now create a system to make life easier for everyone.”

When asked about her future, Fan rules out a return to the mainland.

“I have no plans to return to China,” she says. “I think now I fit better in Japan than in Beijing. In Beijing, everyone’s always talking about making money. All my friends just talk about buying a house or apartment or better cars, or trying to put their kids in the best school. I don’t think I can live like that.”

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I don't understand? I never said I hated Japan, I never said I hated Japanese people, I never said I would never go to Japan, I like Japanese cars, I used to like Japanese Anime, I like Japanese Drama(well, sort of, if I have time), and I love Japanese products in general, and I have Japanese friends.

I don't care about Diaoyu/Senkaku, not really and I don't give a damn about history, not really.


However, having said that here's the deal, China and Japan has a conflict of interest, being we like to be a world power, and Japan either doesn't want us to, or is at least standing in the way of that, intentional or not. We can argue for hours about this and I don't want to.

Bottom line, it's not personal, it's just business.
 
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The term 'race traitor' does not fit. Chinese and Japanese are of the same race, genetically we share similar bloodlines as well. Remember Japanese and Chinese are both Northeast Asians, and of the Mongoloid Race. Remember that the proto-Japanese (during Yayoi Jidai) came from mainland China, specifically Zhejiang region of China. The ancestors of modern day Japanese are people from mainland 'China'.

Japanese and Chinese are kin.

I always like to watch program and read about Nisei Chugokujin. I would say their conduct and stance make Japanese very much assured that these people are well integrated and will fight for Japanese interest.

Imagine someone here for generations and keep ranting Jihad, being discriminated, hijab their women, keeping failing in exams and then accuse their host of providing bad schools, plant bombs, commit terror....etc.

Everything has 2 sides. Good that Japan treat them well and they reciprocate with love to Japan.
 
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I don't understand? I never said I hated Japan, I never said I hated Japanese people, I never said I would never go to Japan, I like Japanese cars, I used to like Japanese Anime, I like Japanese Drama(well, sort of, if I have time), and I love Japanese products in general, and I have Japanese friends.

I don't care about Diaoyu/Senkaku, not really and I don't give a damn about history, not really.


However, having said that here's the deal, China and Japan has a conflict of interest, being we like to be a world power, and Japan either doesn't want us to, or is at least standing in the way of that, intentional or not. We can argue for hours about this and I don't want to.

Bottom line, it's not personal, it's just business.

Agreed to the spirit of your post, and I would say I am in the same position. I may get 'nationalistic' when some issues are discussed, but you know what -- in the end of the day, Japan and China are kin. Literally we are kin. China, the big brother, and Japan the younger brother. There is a fraternal rivalry between us -- sure. But in the end of the day, Japanese people are linked with China , and so are Chinese linked with Japan. Whether we like it or not.

For goodness sakes', the people who 'colonized' the Japanese islands came from Chinese mainland. How can we hate China and Chinese people when China is the progenitor of Japanese people ?

I told you this before in the many discussions you and i had about Sino-Japanese relations; we may not live to see true friendship between our native lands, but i do hope that our descendents (grandchildren , great-grandchildren) will see it.

I always like to watch program and read about Nisei Chugokujin. I would say their conduct and stance make Japanese very much assured that these people are well integrated and will fight for Japanese interest.

Imagine someone here for generations and keep ranting Jihad, being discriminated, hijab their women, keeping failing in exams and then accuse their host of providing bad schools, plant bombs, commit terror....etc.

Everything has 2 sides. Good that Japan treat them well and they reciprocate with love to Japan.

Of course they are integrated into society. Japanese Nationality Law is based on Jus Sanguinis (Law of Blood) -- if a child is born to a parent of Japanese nationality that child is automatically Japanese National. It does not matter if the child was raised in Indonesia, Philippines, Vietnam, China, America , if his or her mother or father is a Japanese National, then he or she is automatically a Japanese National and thus Citizen of Japan. Civil rights related to Nationality Law is a big thing in Japan.

Am i saying that there are no racists in Japan that don't recognize mixed people? of course not -- there are bigots anywhere and everywhere. But the issue and debate of Japanese Nationality is an evolving phenomena in the country and a serious one at that. To make a case point; there was an issue in the Philippines where a Japanese man had a relationship with a Filipina , long story short the Japanese man left the country and thta woman eventually gave birth to his children (twins). Long story short -- those children were awarded Japanese Nationality by the Court and were taken custody by the grandparents (parents of the father).

Sure you may hear issues about Japanese homogeneity, but the Judicial System does not play around regarding Nationality Law, and these children do enjoy a good future in Japan. And they are Japanese.
 
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Chinese is famous for race traitors especially if Chinese remain in an area far more advance than China. I think this is bad but there is some good side we need to think of.

Kuan Yew is a race traitor.

Also because of race traitors as catalyst, Chinese is able to integrate.

The Islamo have fewer race traitors and they are passionate about their tradition on building caliphate, hijab and jihad. That makes them backward.

The problem is how to strike a balance on patriotism and race traitors.

This is Chinese culture for many hundreds years.
 
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Agreed to the spirit of your post, and I would say I am in the same position. I may get 'nationalistic' when some issues are discussed, but you know what -- in the end of the day, Japan and China are kin. Literally we are kin. China, the big brother, and Japan the younger brother. There is a fraternal rivalry between us -- sure. But in the end of the day, Japanese people are linked with China , and so are Chinese linked with Japan. Whether we like it or not.

For goodness sakes', the people who 'colonized' the Japanese islands came from Chinese mainland. How can we hate China and Chinese people when China is the progenitor of Japanese people ?

I told you this before in the many discussions you and i had about Sino-Japanese relations; we may not live to see true friendship between our native lands, but i do hope that our descendents (grandchildren , great-grandchildren) will see it.
I'm not going to go into a whole post into what may happen and what's in the best interests.

Reading from your posts, you may not have much experience being in conflict, I have, pretty much since High School, but especially in college and after, and I can tell you, as long as interests align, people can do great things. Software development is all about teams, and I had some major conflicts in them, but when the chips are down we can all put aside our differences and focus, mostly. We may never be drinking buddies or work again, but for the duration, it's good enough.

Countries are ran by politicians, the world's best compromisers(not a real word I know, sue me, I don't have a PHD), as long as interests align, China and Japan can easily be allies, if not in name.

I mean both of us have seen the good turn sour, during our life times, hard to imagine we won't see the sour being made into wine later in the day. When interests are in question, what people think of each other don't usually matter, and much less when it's national interests.
 
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This is Chinese culture for many hundreds years.

Why view it as a bad thing? It is called adapting to a new environment. There are over 150,000 Japanese people who live in China; and many of them are married to Chinese, have mixed children. These Japanese Nationals who prefer to call China their 'home' have that right. We do not call them "Japanese Traitors".

Seriously , you need to get such insidious thoughts / thinking out of your system. Such extreme xenophobiasm is wrong.

Lastly, @Lux de Veritas , Lee Kuan Yew is not a 'Race Traitor' since he's not betraying China. Lee Kuan Yew is a Singaporean, was a leader of Singapore, a nation in Southeast Asia. Lee Kuan Yew may have ancestral roots in China, but he is not Chinese National. He is a Singaporean National.
 
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