Loongson: China’s answer to Intel/AMD

[general_yermolov_stalin]

I will give a brief here.Loongson is the Chinese microchip maker whose main markets are servers,supercomputers and desktops for Chinese govt using its indigenous chips. Loongson uses MIPS architecture instead of the x86 architecture that Intel,IBM and AMD use. Currently Loongson is marketing its latest 6 core,32 nm chip whose performance is 192 Gflops while consuming 40 watts.While Loongson has to still catch up with Intel and other western semiconductor manufacturers ,but due to the Snowden leaks that proved that US corporation manufactured hardware products have NSA back doors in them has sent shockwaves to Govts and major non-US industrial conglomerates.


This is a given miracle for Loongson as various govts and corporates will further move away from US based hardware and Software products . But then Loongson cannot totally depend on this. It needs to further improve performance . While reducing the core size has considerable advantages ,but China does not possess Fabs capable of producing below 28 nm. So there are alternate methods it must undertake .One could be parallel computing and the other silicon photonics which offers considerable advantages and IBM has developed for its mature 90 nm chips. If Loongson succeeds in implementing silicon photonics ,it will be a major gamechanger as silicon photonics would exponentially improve performance of chips at little cost.

But ,Loongson still has a long way to go.

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[BoQ77]

So again, is this an answer? to 14nm microstructure ?

 

[FairAndUnbiased]

Silicon photonics is incredibly hard to pull off, but if anyone can do it, it is us. We don't think inside the box and we don't let others think for us, unlike certain countries here who rely on credit, donations and foreign investment for even producing clothes.

 

[C130]

i wouldn't compare loongson to Intel/AMD
more like PowerPC and sparc64

 

[Beidou2020]

Hisilicon's Kirin 930 chip is 16nm.

Hisilicon is Huawei's smartphone chip designer.

 

[BoQ77]

Hisilicon's Kirin 930 chip is 16nm.

Hisilicon is Huawei's smartphone chip designer.

That's not Loongson, and it's not China made too.

 

[Beidou2020]

That's not Loongson, and it's not China made too.

TSMC will make it. SMIC is still catching up.

By the way, how is Vietnam's semiconductor industry?

 

[senheiser]

So again, is this an answer? to 14nm microstructure ?

who cares? All what 14nm does is saving energy. China can just mass produce them which is cheaper than importing and make powerful surfer even with 90nm chips

 

[BoQ77]

who cares? All what 14nm does is saving energy. China can just mass produce them which is cheaper than importing and make powerful surfer even with 90nm chips

They could make it, no problem. But to call that answer to Intel. Sorry. not in position.

TSMC will make it. SMIC is still catching up.

By the way, how is Vietnam's semiconductor industry?

TSMC is Taiwan. And btw, Kirin is not the PC-based microchip.

 

[Beidou2020]

They could make it, no problem. But to call that answer to Intel. Sorry. not in position.



TSMC is Taiwan. And btw, Kirin is not the PC-based microchip.

The entire business of TSMC is mainland China related. PC is going out of fashion. The future is in smartphones and tablets.

How is Vietnam's semiconductor industry? Do you even have such an industry?

 

[BoQ77]

The entire business of TSMC is mainland China related. PC is going out of fashion. The future is in smartphones and tablets.

How is Vietnam's semiconductor industry? Do you even have such an industry?

Vietnam has some chips like China develop Loongson, low performance for specific purposes.
For consumer market, Intel is the name who manufacture Haswell chips and SOC in Vietnam

 

[terranMarine]

Without Mainland market TSMC will have a hard to survive , Taiwanese or not it's still producing chips for Chinese. Vietcongs should focus more on the shit coffee production, that's your backbone industry

 

[FairAndUnbiased]

Vietnam has some chips like China develop Loongson, low performance for specific purposes.
For consumer market, Intel is the name who manufacture Haswell chips and SOC in Vietnam

No, I think you have embedded hardware and memory confused with processors. Loongson is a processor for high performance supercomputing, not for cheap embedded hardware. The specs of the chip (extremely low energy usage, highly parallel architecture, etc) makes it perfect for supercomputing and sub-optimal for most other things. It simply doesn't have the same architecture as Intel, which prevents its use in Windows applications.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

Here is our bastion host with the Loongson processors.

China has successfully developed the first domestic Loongson processor-based bastion hostWAREYE | WAREYE


And here is the Russia's answer to Intel/AMD.

Russia building 'Baikal processor' to replace AMD and Intel chips - CPU - News - HEXUS.net

 

[general_yermolov_stalin]

Silicon photonics is incredibly hard to pull off, but if anyone can do it, it is us. We don't think inside the box and we don't let others think for us, unlike certain countries here who rely on credit, donations and foreign investment for even producing clothes.

Not that hard. Much cheaper than spending 5-10 billion $ on a new fab .Plus the advantages for upgrading older mature technology with silicon photonics is incredible.