Lockheed, Pentagon reach $4 billion deal for more F-35 jets

[Aepsilons]

First jet is supposed to arrive in Japan sometime in 2017

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Such a beautiful sight!

 

[Bang Galore]

so about a $100 mil a piece now? if they keep shaving off 4% each batch could get around to the $80 mil a piece it needs to be.

.....and India is close to buying some 126 Rafales for some $18-20 billion.......

 

[Aepsilons]

.....and India is close to buying some 126 Rafales for some $18-20 billion.......

Ripped off. To the nth power.

 

[Donatello]

Easy...

Pitot/static pressures at and/or near aircraft surface are different than when measured outside of the laminar flow. Different, not higher or lower because depending on maneuvers, especially on a fighter aircraft, p/s pressures will vary from section to section of the entire aircraft. On the F-16, the p/s probe on the radome tip provides pitot and static pressure, but there are also flush static ports on both sides of the jet to provide this differential ratio of static pressure for the air data computer to work with the flight control computer to calculate the most optimum surface deflection rate and travel during maneuvers.

On a developmental aircraft, a longer pitot/static probe, often with movable vanes attached as shown on the top F-35 picture, provides air data information before any effects on these air pressures can be created by the aircraft itself. In a manner of speaking, the longer boom provides 'clean' or 'undisturbed' or 'raw' p/s air data while the aircraft's own p/s probe picks up 'disturbed' air data and must perform assorted calculations to derive as accurately as possible a match to the 'clean' air data. The closer the two sources, with the longer probe providing the reference p/s air data, the better the avionics, so to speak.

At a point in development, when the two sources either cannot come any closer to each other or matches (ideal), the longer probe is removed and the aircraft now relies solely on its own sensors.

So basically, it is used to determine the calibration of the sensors that would be used during normal flying?

 

[Archie]

Japan needs a lot more than 44 F35A
even turkey is getting 110 F35A
a nation the size of Japan should have gone for 200 F35A along with 30 F35B for Navy

 

[Aepsilons]

Japan needs a lot more than 44 F35A
even turkey is getting 110 F35A
a nation the size of Japan should have gone for 200 F35A along with 30 F35B for Navy

Its the first of many orders. Those 44 F-35AIIs will replace our fleet of F-4s. Eventually, we're going to have to replace our 220 units of F-15Js. So, eventually.

As for the JMSDF, we're inducting 2 Izumo-class carriers and we're expecting to field F-35Bs for these babies.

 

[The Great One]

Its the first of many orders. Those 44 F-35AIIs will replace our fleet of F-4s. Eventually, we're going to have to replace our 220 units of F-15Js. So, eventually.

As for the JMSDF, we're inducting 2 Izumo-class carriers and we're expecting to field F-35Bs for these babies.

Izumo class is BIIIIIG, Damn

F-35B's will make it a KILLA ship.

 

[libertad]

I'll offer a few dimes if these morons shut up and go bother with something else for a few days. The criticism is ridiculous The air frame is maturing, the price is dropping, international partners are still committed, nothing is going bad at this point. A few minor hiccups such as engine problems with a handful of air frames, but those are normal operational issues that will be and are being dealt with. What the hell are these people complaining about?

Right....the price is dropping...after already spending double on this program than what we projected. One problem after another...but hey lets give them more money. Maybe our allies can help us save face a little by being dumb enough to buy it.

Why not idiots...sorry...I mean...people like you get your own lobbyists ? Do not know crowdfunding ? I heard Noam Chomsky is a multi-millionaire. Surely he can spare a few dimes.

???Crowdfunding?? Chomsky?? You really went off on a tangent there. But seriously, hat tip to Lockheed lobbyists. After ripping us off for hundreds of billions they still have us giving them more money. Fingers crossed that this will be the first project ever to be on time and on budget.

 

[AMDR]

Right....the price is dropping...after already spending double on this program than what we projected. One problem after another...but hey lets give them more money. Maybe our allies can help us save face a little by being dumb enough to buy it.

People said the same thing about the development of the M1 Abrams in the late seventies and early eighties but look at it now. One of the best tanks in the world with an amazing combat record.

 

[SvenSvensonov]

People said the same thing about the development of the M1 Abrams in the late seventies and early eighties but look at it now. One of the best tanks in the world with an amazing combat record.

Just about every program has had the same things said about it. The Pentagon didn't listen then and they don't listen to the criticism now. Even with a declining budget, the Pentagon still has its s*** together.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

I remember "60 Minutes" trashing the Bradley Fighting Vehicle as a death trap that wouldn't last long on a battlefield.

 

[Superboy]

Izumo class is BIIIIIG, Damn

F-35B's will make it a KILLA ship.

AFAIK, Japanese Constitution forbids fixed wing aircraft carriers.

 

[SvenSvensonov]

AFAIK, Japanese Constitution forbids fixed wing aircraft carriers.

Times are changing and so too is the Japanese Constitution. @Nihonjin1051 could better explain the new changes than I could, but I would venture a guess that the Japanese Constitution no longer forbids the use of fixed-wing aircraft from ships, just building ships called aircraft carriers. So long as they label their ships "Helicopter destroyer" or build them as LPH or LPD designations they can skirt their own constitutional restrictions.

This is a "Helicopter destroyer".

 

[Superboy]

Helicopter destroyers do not have the necessary flight deck that can support VTOL planes.

 

[Aepsilons]

AFAIK, Japanese Constitution forbids fixed wing aircraft carriers.

Limitations to our ability to project power have been addressed with the recent Collective Self Defense Mandate.