Liberal days of Pakistan's state television PTV in 1970s

[VCheng]

We were not talking about the options we have while watching tele-
Are you high on something green since yesterday?-

But that is the point: TV shows a variety of programs, so the viewers can have the choice of watching what they want. What some do not like, may be someone else wants to watch.

 

[JonAsad]

But that is the point: TV shows a variety of programs, so the viewers can have the choice of watching what they want. What some do not like, may be someone else wants to watch.

Exactly thats something generally understood no need to state the obvious- twice-

 

[VCheng]

Exactly thats something generally understood no need to state the obvious- twice-

Then what is the problem? Is it because a self-appointed "morality brigade" wants to control what others may or may not watch according to perverted standards of their own sick minds?

 

[JonAsad]

Then what is the problem? Is it because a self-appointed "morality brigade" wants to control what others may or may not watch according to perverted standards of their own sick minds?

Lol- let me break it to you-

OP think state run TV PTV was more liberal in 70s by showing some iranian girl dances on Pakistani state run TV-

I told him bachian still dances on Pakistani state run TV- PTV- nithing to worry about-

I answered his question and youbcame along with the options we have in the remote to change the channel if you dont like-

Did I say anywhere bachian should not dance on tele?- so why you telling me my rights as viewer? - lol

 

[FunkyGen]

Lol- let me break it to you-
OP think state run TV PTV was more liberal in 70s by showing some iranian girl dances on Pakistani state run TV-
I told him bachian still dances on Pakistani state run TV- PTV- nithing to worry about-
I answered his question and youbcame along with the options we have in the remote to change the channel if you dont like-
Did I say anywhere bachian should not dance on tele?- so why you telling me my rights as viewer? - lol

bashing anything related to Pakistan (Pakistanis included) is his job, no need to take him seriously.....

 

[JonAsad]

bashing anything related to Pakistan (Pakistanis included) is his job, no need to take him seriously.....

If I were to take him seriously I would never reply to him- -

 

[Imran Khan]

sab chalta hai bhai

 

[Meengla]

A quick scan shows (at least in the first page of this thread) that some people are equating the modern day semi freedoms on television as 'liberalism'. Of course that's not--even though I still welcome some 'opening'--some kind of 'loosening of morals'. And that's because, since Zia ul Haq, Pakistani society had drifted so far to the Right that television in the 80's--while produced great dramas--felt so suffocating at the same time. Imagine Zia trying to force female news casters from putting on make up?! Or covering up the PIA air hostesses?! The ladies refused!
The 70's (and before) were the glorious days. Truly liberal as far as an Islamic society goes. Not vulgar. But tolerant of dissent. Co-existence with minorities. Karachi's bazars were full of women in Shalwar Qameez with tiny Dupattas AND there were also burqahs. My 9th grade teacher and the head mistress wore skirts. I have witnessed some Goris in bikini at Hawkes Bay.

We were still taught that 'Pakistan Islam ka Qila Hey' (Pakistan is the Fortress of Islam). We cheered for Mohammad Ali in his boxing contests. We cheered for one of the Bholu Brothers in fight against the Japanese A. Inoki. I witnessed ZAB kissing various Muslim leaders in the Lahore Summit; the nation was so charged then. And we Sunni kids had no fear of Shias or vice versa despite occasional clashes between them during Muharram.

We kids saw people drinking beers around Karachi hotel's swimming pools with Westerners too enjoying without any fear. We saw actor Shakeel and Mohd. Ali Shehki walking the streets of Karachi. all the time. Heck, Shakeel, I think, was so poor then that he would wait for a public bus near our house. He was famous even then--remember: 'Uncle Urfi'?

Ahh, I know some of it can be called 'nostalgia' but really things were better. I don't want to be a child or even a teen ager ever again. But what was good then--was really good. A tolerant Pakistan.

One more thing to add: While showing a bit of skin, mujra, or some flamboyant TV shows are certainly not signs of 'liberalism' in a political sense they are INDEED signs of a society which is tolerant of 'the other'.

 

[Donatello]

I think the television today is way more liberal than ever in the past.

 

[Psycho Pakistani]

The 70's (and before) were the glorious days. Truly liberal as far as an Islamic society goes. Not vulgar. But tolerant of dissent. Co-existence with minorities. Karachi's bazars were full of women in Shalwar Qameez with tiny Dupattas AND there were also burqahs. My 9th grade teacher and the head mistress wore skirts. I have witnessed some Goris in bikini at Hawkes Bay.

Actually you are the only person who has grabbed my point on the first page of this thread , some people just equate vulgarness with liberalism which is utterly wrong and BS. You can show women dancing with grace but you can also show women dancing erotically , that doesn't mean the two things are same. Being liberal does not mean being vulgar, I think many in pakistan equate being vulgar/indecent as being liberal which is mockery of the word "liberal".

The dance performance shown in OP is liberal but NOT vulgar or third class prostitute dance as in the videos shared by the user @JonAsad as rebuttal.

 

[Psycho Pakistani]

I think the television today is way more liberal than ever in the past.

Should be changed with vulgar and third class devoid of any creativity.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

So I came across this rare video of singer Alamgir with a guest turkish singer Nazi that was telecast on PTV during 1975, I never thought that PTV was so liberal in those old days because I never saw any such thing on PTV during the decades of 80s or 90s. It seems like pakistan television was quite liberal untl late 1970s.

These two also performed on this song in many cities of pakistan including karachi, lahore, islamabad and peshawar in 1970s.

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they used to play these songs in the 90s... when i was a kid.. loved them... than came votal signs n junoon... awesome days.

 

[VCheng]

bashing anything related to Pakistan (Pakistanis included) is his job, no need to take him seriously.....

Please note that I am not bashing Pakistan. I am merely supporting the right of a diversity of programming, of all types, and letting the viewers choose what they watch.

 

[FunkyGen]

Please note that I am not bashing Pakistan. I am merely supporting the right of a diversity of programming, of all types, and letting the viewers choose what they watch.

His point was that he put the content in his post to prove his point......