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Fareed Zakaria: Learning From The Example Of Germany

August 23, 2010 02:00 PM
Fareed Zakaria: Learning From The Example Of Germany
By Nicole Belle


Everyone wants to be part of a winning team. It's human nature. But I've never understood the bizarre jingoism of right-wing America to scream "We're #1!!!!" without a whole lot of facts to back them up.

In fact, according to last week's Newsweek, they'd be more accurate to yell "We're #11!!!", which doesn't quite have the cachet of being #1.

It would be nice if we could learn the lessons of how other countries are successful and adapt them to this country. One such country that has been bandied about of late is Germany. At a time where we have economists warning of a double dip recession here, Germany's economy is growing stronger consistently month after month.

Why?

As Fareed Zakaria describes it, it's is because Germany is investing in its own long-term economic success, by focusing on strengthening their manufacturing base, educating future employees, and offering social safety nets to keep the workforce happy and secure.

I've talked to people in my private life who question whether we could actually adopt Germany's policies here, given that our GDP is exponentially much larger. I don't think it's an issue of GDP so much as it is a willingness to stop structuring all of our economic policies for the short-term benefit of corporations over everything else.

But even without the political will, it's clear something has to change, or we risk dropping even further down the list.

Transcripts below the fold:

And now for our "What in the World?" segment.

So, the American economy is stalling. Applications for unemployment insurance reached the half-million mark last week, the first time to cross this threshold since last November.

The housing sector is weakening. Private business is not hiring. And the consumer is not spending.

But meanwhile, there is a major global economy that's booming. No, it's not China or India or any other emerging market. It's Germany, the world's fourth largest economy, which grew at 2.2 percent last quarter. That was its best quarter in 20 years, and it blew the other major EU economies out of the water.

Germany, you might say, isn't that part of old Europe that Americans always make fun of, high taxes, big welfare state, strong unions, lots of regulation? None of that sounds conducive to economic growth. But Germany is powering ahead, bouncing back from the financial crisis and the economic recession.

So how did they do it?

First, the German consumer was prudent and didn't spend more money than he had. While much of the rest of the first world was on a spending spree in the last decade, especially the United States and Britain, Germans held back. They never maxed out on their credit cards. They never took out home equity loans.

One reason that American consumers aren't spending right now is that they are still working off mountains of debt. The average American has a debt load that is 122 percent of his annual income. The German average is a more manageable 100 percent.

Second, Germany has a strong manufacturing sector that exports products around the world. The United States and many other rich countries have essentially outsourced their manufacturing over the last three or four decades. It's cheaper to have things made in China or India.

But Germany managed to keep a lot of its manufacturing right there in Germany. It maintained technical institutes, apprenticeship programs, and in many other ways has encouraged and built and sustained manufacturing. So when it sells a Porsche or a BMW, that money comes right back into Germany.

Germans are also attentive to the risks of losing technical skills. So while U.S. businesses shed jobs the minute they see the demand for their products drying up, German businesses are more careful. They are more likely to keep their workers, perhaps on half time, or even quarter time, rather than fire them. They believe that this retains the workers' skills and his loyalty so that when the economy revives, the company has trained workers ready to ramp up.

Finally, reform. The Germans have reformed their pension system, they've raised the retirement age, they've trimmed workers' benefits, they've freed up their labor market, and of course they have an affordable national health care system, one that costs half as much as ours. So their workers are actually a lot less expensive to their businesses than American workers are to theirs with the huge pension and health care costs that come along with them.

The result of all this, while the U.S. this week announced another round of bad unemployment figures, German unemployment fell in July for the 13th straight month. Germany has now regained almost all of the jobs it lost during the recession.

Maybe we could learn something from what's going on across the Atlantic in another high-wage, high-tax, high-regulation economy.

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Fareed Zakaria: Learning From The Example Of Germany | Crooks and Liars
 
leave germany china korea examples man we will never learn ever.
 
leave germany china korea examples man we will never learn ever.

Lol. I get your drift. But the article is about lessons to be learned by USA. The Germans are doing awesome these days when the US is just wobbling around.
 
lol how can Pakistan learn when we've jali degree holders.
Right said Imran.:tup:
 
I often don't like what they are doing, but apparently the government does something right when it comes to the economy, or they are just lucky. o_O

I just hope our new, more intensified partnership with China, which is where much of the growth is coming from, will not siphon off our technological edge since they steal and copy know-how and blue-prints faster than you can look.
 
I often don't like what they are doing, but apparently the government does something right when it comes to the economy, or they are just lucky. o_O

I just hope our new, more intensified partnership with China, which is where much of the growth is coming from, will not siphon off our technological edge since they steal and copy know-how and blue-prints faster than you can look.

Your post could do just fine without the bold part.
 
Well I disagree, that is a big worry for many corporations in Germany because corporate espionage is rampant. Also the Chinese Government actually counts on that involuntary "technology transfer" as you can read in their strategy and we have little legal tools to combat that.
 
I often don't like what they are doing, but apparently the government does something right when it comes to the economy, or they are just lucky. o_O

I just hope our new, more intensified partnership with China, which is where much of the growth is coming from, will not siphon off our technological edge since they steal and copy know-how and blue-prints faster than you can look.

Actually i wonder about the more intense patnership with china part, I look at the Aussies and the way we are going in NZ and we are setting up our economies to be nothing more than a raw material supplier to China. Thats well and good while things are rosy in China but if the proverbial ever hits the fan, China has the size and reserves to cope with some major adjustments those riding the coat tails could be in very big trouble.
 
China enormous market and rapidly growing economy is opportunity, challenge and risk all at the same time.

As long as our exports are diversified among several partners and we are able to safeguard our technical know-how I think It'll be fine. I hope Australia is not "betting everything on one horse" that is always bad economics, as for example the housing crisis has shown for countries like Spain and Ireland in particular.

Also regarding them not respecting copyright, might be something that is dealt with on its own because they themselves will want to copyright inventions eventually as their high-tech sectors growth.
 
Well I disagree, that is a big worry for many corporations in Germany because corporate espionage is rampant. Also the Chinese Government actually counts on that involuntary "technology transfer" as you can read in their strategy and we have little legal tools to combat that.

Christ almighty not this tired shtick again. Source or it didn't happen. Give specific cases if you are going to make allegations. You can't just say "omg they are stealing our tech" and be done with it. In the end no one is putting a gun to your head. You can do business elsewhere if you're thus concerned.

as for example the housing crisis has shown for countries like Spain and Ireland in particular.
and really I question your grasp on trade matter or the composition of trade between Ger-Chn if you think, the US housing bubble or the resulting credit crunch had anything to do with the Euro sovereign debt crisis. You're getting your events mixed up.


Also regarding them not respecting copyright, might be something that is dealt with on its own because they themselves will want to copyright inventions eventually as their high-tech sectors growth.

and I'll refer you to Joseph Stiglitz for your malformed ideas about copy right.
http://www.project-syndicate.org/commentary/stiglitz61/English
 
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It's natural that countries playing catching-up want to obtain technology through either legal or illegal means. The West's centuries long effort to steal the secret of silk-making from China (eventually succeeded by two Catholic priests) was perhaps one of the greatest case of industrial espionage in history.

The current intellectual property problem in China will eventually be solved. It's already hurting a lot of Chinese industries like IC designs or computer games, where we have hundreds of small companies with little economy of scale. One reason is of course local protectionism, another is the lack of IP protection discourages M&A because it's much cheaper for companies to poach designers from competitors thus obtain technology illegally.

Now the special interests representing manufacturing is still strong, but as the coastal regions increasingly move away from manufacturing toward greater R&D (and let manufacturing moves inland), we'll see the balance tip gradually toward stronger IP protection, at least in the coastal regions.
 
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