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Lal Masjid standoff begins

the hatred based upon sects, nations, history, race etc and the love for material benefits are the main causes of the disunity among the muslims today. the Quran says "Allah ki rassi ko mazboti say thamay rakho or taffarukay main mat paro" in the last hundred years or so we have devised a new way to divide and that is nations. not only we did the wrong thing but we are taking pride in the crap we did.
 
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Kill him and raze the mosque..

Pathetic spineless government of Pakistan. Always cajoling to extremists be it religious or secular.

I don't know how most Pakistanis see Musharraf but to take action against this mullah will need someone with the courage of Musharraf.

Secondly, killing the mullah without the same standing as Musharraf will probably create sympathy for Lal Masjid. so maybe this mullah will need to be tackled intellectually first.

@Zibago @RealNapster @Mentee @Moonlight @fitpOsitive @ps3linux

@Jf Thunder
 
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Another day, another drama due to the gutless and cowardly appeasement policies. This is what happens when the Military, its agencies and the Corrupt Establishment keep bending backwards and keep appeasing terrorists and hostile foreign entities. Frankly, it is a very shameful and abhorrent situation.
 
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Open a new thread and I will gladly share references about Iqbal's vision.
our egos are making us to prove ourselves right for the sake of wining a useless debate and when debates are done (which generally are done) to just to prove i am better then you or my logic is better then yours then we only serve the purpose of satan specially when the debate is about something involving religion.
after reading Quran and hadiths i have yet to find any single statement by the Prophet in which He said that "i am going to die for madina or makkah although he loved both these cities.
so good day. you can satisfy your ego by thinking that you won a debate.
 
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I don't know how most Pakistanis see Musharraf but to take action against this mullah will need someone with the courage of Musharraf.

Secondly, killing the mullah without the same standing as Musharraf will probably create sympathy for Lal Masjid. so maybe this mullah will need to be tackled intellectually first.

@Zibago @RealNapster @Mentee @Moonlight @fitpOsitive @ps3linux

@Jf Thunder
Unlike many Shia posters here, I don't think killing is the only option. Merely few arrests will serve the purpose.
And BTW, negotiation is another good thing to practice.
 
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Unlike many Shia posters here, I don't think killing is the only option. Merely few arrests will serve the purpose.
And BTW, negotiation is another good thing to practice.

Well, I believe they should be first defeated intellectually, with logic.

Please watch this vid of Nasser from a speech in 1966 as he recounts his encounter with the head of the Muslim Brotherhood movement. South Asia needs people of his sort.

@Mangus Ortus Novem

@StormBreaker
 
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Unlike many Shia posters here, I don't think killing is the only option. Merely few arrests will serve the purpose.
And BTW, negotiation is another good thing to practice.

Malok Shia sunni liberal or any segment deserves a three days warning to surrender prior to the beginning of a military operation. And ss for their greviences, well let the aggrieved one take it to the court and sort it out there.

P:S I won't shy for a sec crushing a rebellion against the state with an iron fist while trying my level best to uphold the rules of engagement as enjoined by Allah.

Well, I believe they should be first defeated intellectually, with logic.

Please watch this vid of Nasser from a speech in 1966 as he recounts his encounter with the head of the Muslim Brotherhood movement. South Asia needs people of his sort.

@Mangus Ortus Novem

@StormBreaker

Jamy bro these mind games are reserved for hostage like situations not for an open call for picking up arms against the state for however good reasons and intentions. You fire a bullet at wardi / civvies, you must pay for that

the hatred based upon sects, nations, history, race etc and the love for material benefits are the main causes of the disunity among the muslims today. the Quran says "Allah ki rassi ko mazboti say thamay rakho or taffarukay main mat paro" in the last hundred years or so we have devised a new way to divide and that is nations. not only we did the wrong thing but we are taking pride in the crap we did.

We tried pleading the afghans to let us in. Didn't go well with us so eventually we got a state, thank you Jinnah! :pakistan:
 
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Well, I believe they should be first defeated intellectually, with logic.

Please watch this vid of Nasser from a speech in 1966 as he recounts his encounter with the head of the Muslim Brotherhood movement. South Asia needs people of his sort.

@Mangus Ortus Novem

@StormBreaker
From what I understood, he was trying to prove the point “Mend your ways before advising others” ?

So what was this guy’s ambition ? Was he just toying around with Muslim brotherhood or he was serious about Re-Islamization ?

And what did he achieve later on in this regards ?

Reminds me, it is a rare occasion to find an Egyptian lady without scarf even if she is wearing exposing cloths, as if this is their national dress code now.
 
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Malok Shia sunni liberal or any segment deserves a three days warning to surrender prior to the beginning of a military operation. And ss for their greviences, well let the aggrieved one take it to the court and sort it out there.

P:S I won't shy for a sec crushing a rebellion against the state with an iron fist while trying my level best to uphold the rules of engagement as enjoined by Allah.



Jamy bro these mind games are reserved for hostage like situations not for an open call for picking up arms against the state for however good reasons and intentions. You fire a bullet at wardi / civvies, you must pay for that



We tried pleading the afghans to let us in. Didn't go well with us so eventually we got a state, thank you Jinnah! :pakistan:
And I would never let that condition to come when someone is challenging state.
BTW, they are not challenging state, the real challenge is to a TOLA in islamabad that is against any form of Islam. Currently another sect is supporting that TOLA, but time for that tola is also near.
 
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sorry dear . wont be asked a single question about pakistan, turkey ,saudia, iran etc in my grave. wont be asked a single question about jinnah in my grave as well. there is no comparison between state and islam.

if there are flags inside mosques in turkey then it is not necessary that we should also follow them. they did many wrong acts out of their hatred for the arabs.

What if Allah asks you, were you loyal to my blessing called Pakistan? did you remain idol when someone was challenging the integrity of My blessing ? Did you came up with weird excuses to distract people from the intensity of impending danger in a state which I made a citadel to protect believers?
 
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