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December 16th 2015

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Source: Reuters
The Saudi artillery

Saudi Arabia has created a military coalition of 34 countries which it describes as "Islamic" and "anti-terrorist". But none of these names is entirely correct, says British analyst John Laughland.

It is a rule of international politics which is equivalent to Newton's third law of physics. Any foreign intervention in a conflict has an equal but opposite response from another foreign power.



Thus, when in November 1936 the Popular Front government in France, under the chairmanship of Leon Blum, flew to the aid of the Frente Popular in Spain, this immediately triggered against the Italian and German-interventions in support of nationalist forces. As the lapidary words of the great historian of the Spanish Civil War, Georges Roux, "It was Blum who saved Franco."

Similarly, in Syria, the intervention by interposition ofTurkey, of Saudi Arabia and Qatar - countries that are arming the various components of the Syrian opposition, rebel paramilitary groups in Syria are now counting in 1300 - caused the against-interference in extremis of Russia at the end of September.

Initially taken against the foot, enemy foreign powers Syria, under US direction, eventually cobble together a response. The announcement yesterday by Saudi Arabia for the creation of a Muslim alliance "against the terrorism "should be interpreted in that sense.


In proclaiming a Muslim alliance against terrorism, Saudi Arabia wants first deprive Russia of the political advantage


Leave aside the ludicrous nature of this initiative. Saudi Arabia, with other petro-monarchies of the Gulf, in one of the most repressive regimes in the world, the Saudi Wahhabism is the most fundamentalist form of Islam in the world. The war led by Saudi Arabia in Yemen against Shiite rebels, in which thousands of civilians were victims of bombings blind Saudi is just as violent as acts of war that the West accuses Assad. And the idea that Riyadh would fight against terrorism, having here only a week convened a large conference several Syrian jihadist groups, including well-known Salafist, is absurd.

In proclaiming a Muslim alliance against terrorism which it would head, Saudi Arabia wants first deprive Russia of the undeniable political advantage by announcing that it has acquired its own military operations against terrorism in Syria. However, Russia is in accordance with international law to the extent that she was invited by the government of Damascus. By cons, give the right to decide who is a terrorist and who is not, as the fact Riyadh by funding groups that Damascus called terrorists is to ignore international law, in particular the long Statement the inadmissibility of intervention and interference voted by the UN General Assembly in 1981. It explicitly prohibits interference in the internal affairs of third countries, including through an intermediary or any support with armed groups on its territory.



What Riyadh accuses the Islamic state, it is not his but the fact that terrorism has restored caliphate


In addition, the proclamation of an alliance of 34 Muslim states against terrorism, whose headquarters will be based in the Saudi capital, is to strengthen the rule of the kingdom in the Muslim world.Indeed, in the official despatch dated December 15, which announced the creation of this alliance, the "ummah" is often invoked: the alliance is to defend and strengthen it. However, the "umma", not "the nation" as say the French translations and English, which could suggest that this is the Saudi nation.No, the "ummah" is the community of all Muslim believers is "the Muslim nation," including Saudi Arabia considering taking leadership.

Because basically, what Riyadh accuses the Islamic state, it is not its terrorism, which besides its own proxies in Syria are just as guilty. It's the fact that he has restored the Caliphate, abolished in 1924 by Mustafa Kemal, and proclaimed that its spiritual leader of all Muslims. The force of attraction doubt that this move has generated in the Muslim world is manifested in the tens of thousands of young people who volunteered and who rushed to war in Syria. It is a force of attraction which the Gulf kings are very jealous. Riyadh wants so, with its alliance against terrorism, recover lost ground as against Russia that the Islamic state and reassert its primacy within Islam. That is why his great Shia rival, theIran and its allies, the Iraq and Syria, are rigorously excluded.

In Syria, the stakes are no longer national but global


The Spanish war was a national war of religion between Catholics and atheists, on which the outside world has projected its own representations of communism and fascism. A local war has become the theater of a global clash of two great totalitarianisms of the twentieth century. Similarly, in Syria, the stakes are no longer national but global. At the rivalry between the US and Russia now adds the fierce struggle between Sunnism and Shiism in Islam. The fact that the Saudi foreign minister does not exclude sending ground troops into Syria, even as the conflict between Russia and Turkey knows new escalations, stressed that the Syrian Civil War is now over, and by far the only Syrian context. Time is pressing and peace in Syria is more urgent than ever.
 
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This is the kind of nonsense that happens when the USA fails to play its rightful world leadership role appropriately. Rest of the world is running around rudderless, especially the so called muslim countries that are literally running around with their chicken heads cut off! So now they are looking to Daesh, Saudi coalition, Russial coalition, Iranian coalition et al provide 'leadership' ! Let's hope none of these crazies get a hold of biological or nuclear weapon material....Russians ofcourse have all the weapons they need but they at least don't have the jihadi craze.
 
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This is the kind of nonsense that happens when the USA fails to play its rightful world leadership role appropriately. Rest of the world is running around rudderless, especially the so called muslim countries that are literally running around with their chicken heads cut off! So now they are looking to Daesh, Saudi coalition, Russial coalition, Iranian coalition et al provide 'leadership' ! Let's hope none of these crazies get a hold of biological or nuclear weapon material....Russians ofcourse have all the weapons they need but they at least don't have the jihadi craze.

Honestly I don't see the Russians as an overall negative factor. They provide a semblance of stability , at least, in regards to actively tryin to prevent the total victory of Daesh over the Government in Syria. The extension of the radicalism espoused by Arab Spring was effectively halted by Asad, and his supporters. To be quite honest this predicament requires all factions to sit back down. Unfortunately with low key US leadership here besides token surgical strikes , it will take years if not decades for total victory can be achieved over DAESH. The Shia community in Iraq and Syria are turning to Iran for protection, naturally, due tot he unmitigated barbarity of DAESH and the ethnic cleansing going on in that region.

So on a bilateral context, so long as there are no boots on the ground to effectively defeat DAESH, more and more of the Shia community in region will turn to Iran for aid and call for greater Irani activity. This in turn will bolster more Russo commitment in the region as she has relations and interests with Iran. If Russia is committed long term , then expect the eventual mobilization of the People's Republic of China's military to aid the realization of the Silk Road that will aim to connect the markets of the near east / Western Asia with that of Greater China.

If the United States does not commit , then this opens a vacuum that will naturally be filled by Sino-Russian commitments , and will in itself represent a totally new paradigm shift in global order.
 
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Honestly I don't see the Russians as an overall negative factor. They provide a semblance of stability , at least, in regards to actively tryin to prevent the total victory of Daesh over the Government in Syria. The extension of the radicalism espoused by Arab Spring was effectively halted by Asad, and his supporters. To be quite honest this predicament requires all factions to sit back down. Unfortunately with low key US leadership here besides token surgical strikes , it will take years if not decades for total victory can be achieved over DAESH. The Shia community in Iraq and Syria are turning to Iran for protection, naturally, due tot he unmitigated barbarity of DAESH and the ethnic cleansing going on in that region.

So on a bilateral context, so long as there are no boots on the ground to effectively defeat DAESH, more and more of the Shia community in region will turn to Iran for aid and call for greater Irani activity. This in turn will bolster more Russo commitment in the region as she has relations and interests with Iran. If Russia is committed long term , then expect the eventual mobilization of the People's Republic of China's military to aid the realization of the Silk Road that will aim to connect the markets of the near east / Western Asia with that of Greater China.

If the United States does not commit , then this opens a vacuum that will naturally be filled by Sino-Russian commitments , and will in itself represent a totally new paradigm shift in global order.

yes and that makes it necessary that Obama doesn't fade of into a lame duck period and the next president, whether republican or democrat, is somebody who is well read statesmen with integrity that can use American power as a world leader rather than for petty politics. I normally do not trust Chinese leaders but am slowly developing the feeling that pragmatism is fin ally getting its due place in Beijing pushing jingoism slightly back - meaning if America manages to show proper leadership, the 2nd rung consisting of Germany, UK, Japan, India, China and Russia do have leaders of adequate caliber and support to pull together
 
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December 16th 2015

5671a1a3c46188233c8b4655.jpg
Source: Reuters
The Saudi artillery

Saudi Arabia has created a military coalition of 34 countries which it describes as "Islamic" and "anti-terrorist". But none of these names is entirely correct, says British analyst John Laughland.

It is a rule of international politics which is equivalent to Newton's third law of physics. Any foreign intervention in a conflict has an equal but opposite response from another foreign power.



Thus, when in November 1936 the Popular Front government in France, under the chairmanship of Leon Blum, flew to the aid of the Frente Popular in Spain, this immediately triggered against the Italian and German-interventions in support of nationalist forces. As the lapidary words of the great historian of the Spanish Civil War, Georges Roux, "It was Blum who saved Franco."

Similarly, in Syria, the intervention by interposition ofTurkey, of Saudi Arabia and Qatar - countries that are arming the various components of the Syrian opposition, rebel paramilitary groups in Syria are now counting in 1300 - caused the against-interference in extremis of Russia at the end of September.

Initially taken against the foot, enemy foreign powers Syria, under US direction, eventually cobble together a response. The announcement yesterday by Saudi Arabia for the creation of a Muslim alliance "against the terrorism "should be interpreted in that sense.


In proclaiming a Muslim alliance against terrorism, Saudi Arabia wants first deprive Russia of the political advantage


Leave aside the ludicrous nature of this initiative. Saudi Arabia, with other petro-monarchies of the Gulf, in one of the most repressive regimes in the world, the Saudi Wahhabism is the most fundamentalist form of Islam in the world. The war led by Saudi Arabia in Yemen against Shiite rebels, in which thousands of civilians were victims of bombings blind Saudi is just as violent as acts of war that the West accuses Assad. And the idea that Riyadh would fight against terrorism, having here only a week convened a large conference several Syrian jihadist groups, including well-known Salafist, is absurd.

In proclaiming a Muslim alliance against terrorism which it would head, Saudi Arabia wants first deprive Russia of the undeniable political advantage by announcing that it has acquired its own military operations against terrorism in Syria. However, Russia is in accordance with international law to the extent that she was invited by the government of Damascus. By cons, give the right to decide who is a terrorist and who is not, as the fact Riyadh by funding groups that Damascus called terrorists is to ignore international law, in particular the long Statement the inadmissibility of intervention and interference voted by the UN General Assembly in 1981. It explicitly prohibits interference in the internal affairs of third countries, including through an intermediary or any support with armed groups on its territory.



What Riyadh accuses the Islamic state, it is not his but the fact that terrorism has restored caliphate


In addition, the proclamation of an alliance of 34 Muslim states against terrorism, whose headquarters will be based in the Saudi capital, is to strengthen the rule of the kingdom in the Muslim world.Indeed, in the official despatch dated December 15, which announced the creation of this alliance, the "ummah" is often invoked: the alliance is to defend and strengthen it. However, the "umma", not "the nation" as say the French translations and English, which could suggest that this is the Saudi nation.No, the "ummah" is the community of all Muslim believers is "the Muslim nation," including Saudi Arabia considering taking leadership.

Because basically, what Riyadh accuses the Islamic state, it is not its terrorism, which besides its own proxies in Syria are just as guilty. It's the fact that he has restored the Caliphate, abolished in 1924 by Mustafa Kemal, and proclaimed that its spiritual leader of all Muslims. The force of attraction doubt that this move has generated in the Muslim world is manifested in the tens of thousands of young people who volunteered and who rushed to war in Syria. It is a force of attraction which the Gulf kings are very jealous. Riyadh wants so, with its alliance against terrorism, recover lost ground as against Russia that the Islamic state and reassert its primacy within Islam. That is why his great Shia rival, theIran and its allies, the Iraq and Syria, are rigorously excluded.

In Syria, the stakes are no longer national but global


The Spanish war was a national war of religion between Catholics and atheists, on which the outside world has projected its own representations of communism and fascism. A local war has become the theater of a global clash of two great totalitarianisms of the twentieth century. Similarly, in Syria, the stakes are no longer national but global. At the rivalry between the US and Russia now adds the fierce struggle between Sunnism and Shiism in Islam. The fact that the Saudi foreign minister does not exclude sending ground troops into Syria, even as the conflict between Russia and Turkey knows new escalations, stressed that the Syrian Civil War is now over, and by far the only Syrian context. Time is pressing and peace in Syria is more urgent than ever.
sure because daesh made them look like a fake salafi state while daesh are real salafis saudis are friends with the crusaders that's why saudis got emberassed
 
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Honestly I don't see the Russians as an overall negative factor. They provide a semblance of stability , at least, in regards to actively tryin to prevent the total victory of Daesh over the Government in Syria. The extension of the radicalism espoused by Arab Spring was effectively halted by Asad, and his supporters. To be quite honest this predicament requires all factions to sit back down. Unfortunately with low key US leadership here besides token surgical strikes , it will take years if not decades for total victory can be achieved over DAESH. The Shia community in Iraq and Syria are turning to Iran for protection, naturally, due tot he unmitigated barbarity of DAESH and the ethnic cleansing going on in that region.

So on a bilateral context, so long as there are no boots on the ground to effectively defeat DAESH, more and more of the Shia community in region will turn to Iran for aid and call for greater Irani activity. This in turn will bolster more Russo commitment in the region as she has relations and interests with Iran. If Russia is committed long term , then expect the eventual mobilization of the People's Republic of China's military to aid the realization of the Silk Road that will aim to connect the markets of the near east / Western Asia with that of Greater China.

If the United States does not commit , then this opens a vacuum that will naturally be filled by Sino-Russian commitments , and will in itself represent a totally new paradigm shift in global order.
They have lost 40% of their Iraqi territory, largely in part to US airstrikes, they will be gone within a year or two, not decades.
 
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sure because daesh made them look like a fake salafi state while daesh are real salafis saudis are friends with the crusaders that's why saudis got emberassed
Something else, Daesh coalition of maniacs works and are spreading all over the Islamic world like a disease , while the Sauds with all their money, have managed two dormat states as Morocco and Jordan and a heavy recalcitrant steam locomotive that need constant $ to keep its boiler running.
 
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Something else, Daesh coalition of maniacs works and are spreading all over the Islamic world like a disease , while the Sauds with all their money, have managed two dormat states as Morocco and Jordan and a heavy recalcitrant steam locomotive that need constant $ to keep its boiler running.
Yes that's what I wanted to say
The Saudis with all money,channels,institutions,media,lobbies,investment industries and companies and they couldn't do what daesh with year 10 years old organization and youtube did and captured lands more than the Saudis ever did

Daesh don't have american and European weapons or did they study in British and american military academies and colleges like saudi yet they captured more lands than Saudis despise they are fighting against irak army and militias and kurds with arab and western support from the air
 
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