Koral land-based EW system vs S-400

[Manticore]

Turkey receives first Koral land-based EW system
Lale Sariibrahimoglu, Ankara - IHS Jane's Defence Weekly
25 February 2016
http://www.janes.com/article/58326/turkey-receives-first-koral-land-based-ew-system

Turkey formally received its first Koral EW system from Aselsan on 22 February. Source: SSM
The Turkish Air Force officially received its first locally designed Koral land-based mobile electronic warfare (EW) system from Aselsan on 22 February.

According to an information note released by the Turkish Undersecretariat for Defence Industries (SSM) on 22 February, Koral is able to search for, intercept, analyse, classify, and find the direction of multiple conventional and complex type of radar signals. It also has the capability to jam, deceive, and paralyse hostile radars. It can either be set to automatically respond to hostile signals or it can present suggested options to an operator.

Koral was developed by Aselsan for Turkey under the Land Based Stand-off Jammer System project, which was contracted in July 2009.

A complete Koral EW system includes four Koral Electronic Support Systems (ED) and one Electronic Attack System (ET), each mounted on an 8x8 truck. The vehicles can be up to 500 m away from each other, communicating via fibre-optic cables. The system is reported to have an operating range of 100 km, although no official operating specifications have been issued by Turkey.

Speaking during the handover ceremony, SSM head Ismail Demir said, "We've seen how important electronic warfare is in recent wars." He added that he hoped Koral would lead to the development of an Airborne Stand-off Jammer too. The Turkish Air Force is currently evaluating proposals for such a system, with options including commissioning Aselsan to create one or purchasing one from abroad

Land-Based Transportable Radar Electronic Attack System
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http://www.aselsan.com.tr/en-us/cap...-transportable-radar-electronic-attack-system

Land-Based Transportable Radar Electronic Attack System is developed to jam and deceive conventional and complex type of hostile radars.
General Features

• Designed to intercept and jam and/or deceive hostile radar emitters. It analyses multi-target signals and automatically/manually generates an appropriate response.
  
• Wide operating frequency range
  
• Multiple target capability
  
• Wide-band digital receiver for signal detection, discrimination and reproduction
  
• DRFM based deception capability
  
• Up to %100 duty cycle
  
• High power RF amplifiers and directive transmit antennas to allow high ERP
  
• Independent transmit antenna for each amplifier
  
• Each antenna can be steered separately
  
• Look-through capability
  
• Integral threat and technique libraries
  
• Single operator, single vehicle
  
• High reliability and high availability
  
• Ruggedized for use in harsh environments
  
• Modular architecture to allow easy customization
  
• System-in-test and Built-in-test capability
  
• Local or remote control
  
• Secure voice and data communications with other EW systems

Put simply, KORAL - or any ground based ECM system for that matter - is of very limited use in terms of protecting high-altitude aircraft against S-400.

The ESAs S-400 radars use would "see" the radar return from aircraft, the noise from the ground is extremely easy to filter out by any ESA since it "knows" the signal source.

To beat it from the ground against airborne target, the ECM system has to output WAY more powerful signal than the original radar, and it is always too late since it receives the signal (and hence learns the frequency to counter) when the aircraft already got illuminated.

Ground base ECMs are jus that; ground-based. They can protect themselves and mess with radars targeting ground, but are of limited use for protecting aircraft; that's what air-based ECM is for.

It can technically try to mess with guidance for missiles already launched (with somewhat greater chance compared to near-zero chance of preventing detection and tracking) but given S-400 has both active-guided and semiactive-guided missiles, it's not really feasible.

However, it does make certain sense, as in, while it's pretty ineffective on its own, it's an extra ECM source in addition to ECM suite the target aircraft carries.

And Turkish F-16s actually have the latest American one:http://www.f-16.net/f-16_users_article21.htmlhttp://wiki.scramble.nl/index.php/BAE_Systems_AN/ALQ-178

So basically if it comes to that, it will be a direct comparison between S-400 and latest American airborne ECM. If the ECM wins, then it would probably cause a panic and significant rework of all Russian SAMs. If S-400 wins, expect lots of usual "needs lots of money our F-16 would be dropping like flies" speeches for Congress in US.

 

[Manticore]

What is innovative about Koral, and how does it differ from Krasukha?

- For modern systems of this kind, and based on its appearance and the characteristics that Turkey has presented at various exhibitions, it is a digital system, which means it is self-learning. It is capable of forming a database from the signals it observes, recording them in order to later counteract them.

It would be wrong to underestimate the Turkish electronic warfare development, as truly competent professionals worked on it, but we can say for sure that Turkey does not have sufficient experience in terms of applying the novelty of this system, unlike the ground-based Krasukha electronic warfare system produced by KRET, which has been deployed in complex electronic environments and has accumulated a notable database of radar signals from various systems. In very general terms we can say that this is a similar system, but to compare one with the other would not be correct.

Can the Koral station suppress anti-aircraft missiles from the S-400 Triumph system?

- It is hardly possible, simply because the station is focused on other things. Koral is a ground-based electronic warfare system, and to work effectively against anti-aircraft missiles, even more so those of a class such as a S-400, which are designed to work in conditions when the enemy is known to be using electronic warfare, airborne antiaircraft electronic warfare capabilities are necessary, such as the Russian Rychag or Khibiny systems, the kind of which Turkey does not have. The United States has this kind of system, but they do not export them, not even to their NATO allies
http://kret.com/en/news/4096/

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https://defence.pk/threads/turkish-radar-ew-programs.77790/page-23
Has Turkey has been testing the KORAL on S-300 PMU's it had purchased from Belarus since 2013? @ turkish members

@HAKIKAT @cabatli_53

 

[Oublious]

What is innovative about Koral, and how does it differ from Krasukha?

- For modern systems of this kind, and based on its appearance and the characteristics that Turkey has presented at various exhibitions, it is a digital system, which means it is self-learning. It is capable of forming a database from the signals it observes, recording them in order to later counteract them.

It would be wrong to underestimate the Turkish electronic warfare development, as truly competent professionals worked on it, but we can say for sure that Turkey does not have sufficient experience in terms of applying the novelty of this system, unlike the ground-based Krasukha electronic warfare system produced by KRET, which has been deployed in complex electronic environments and has accumulated a notable database of radar signals from various systems. In very general terms we can say that this is a similar system, but to compare one with the other would not be correct.

Can the Koral station suppress anti-aircraft missiles from the S-400 Triumph system?

- It is hardly possible, simply because the station is focused on other things. Koral is a ground-based electronic warfare system, and to work effectively against anti-aircraft missiles, even more so those of a class such as a S-400, which are designed to work in conditions when the enemy is known to be using electronic warfare, airborne antiaircraft electronic warfare capabilities are necessary, such as the Russian Rychag or Khibiny systems, the kind of which Turkey does not have. The United States has this kind of system, but they do not export them, not even to their NATO allies
http://kret.com/en/news/4096/

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Has Turkey has been testing the KORAL on S-300 PMU's it had purchased from Belarus since 2013? @ turkish members

@HAKIKAT @cabatli_53

BS, every system is open for a jamming. One Koral is not enough put another one that will finish the job. The power of the signal and processing power is the key, and not a lot of russian propaganda.

The russian ew system have never been deployed in a battle field to, don't count ukrain. The west didn't use EW systems.

 

[salarsikander]

@Penguin your valubale input will be highly appreciated

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

BS, every system is open for a jamming. One Koral is not enough put another one that will finish the job. The power of the signal and processing power is the key, and not a lot of russian propaganda.

The russian ew system have never been deployed in a battle field to, don't count ukrain. The west didn't use EW systems.

Had it been the case would the USSR been defeated by "dudes in bed sheet"? Russians show extreme level of audacity which is a recipe for failure.

 

[Muhammad Omar]

So this System can Jam S-400 radar??

 

[NKVD]

So this System can Jam S-400 radar??

S-400 Uses Nebo -M AESA in VHF. Its Almost Impossible To JAM A VHF AESA Radar Russians are Aggressively Working In this Field

 

[C130]

KORAL effective range is 150KM
S-400 is 250KM to 400KM


while no plane or missile can get close to S-400 I would bet a Su-24/30/34 with KH-31P would get close enough to KORAL to destroy it

 

[Oublious]

S-400 Uses Nebo -M AESA in VHF. Its Almost Impossible To JAM A VHF AESA Radar Russians are Aggressively Working In this Field
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Russian BS


In the end they are using electromagnetic spectrum, or have the russian outher space technology? VHF band are used to detect stealth fighters, but they are not so accurate and they are using big mast as you can see in the picture. And it is not AESA radar first of all, wher are the thousand transmitters? Thats why russians are making it a legend with a lot of bs.

Every radar system in the world is open to be jammed.

 

[Quwa]

Knocking out the S-400 - or any powerful air defence system - is a matter of identifying its location, and then priming high-speed stand-off munitions to knock them out. Much easier said than done as the identification process would require a really high level of intelligence gathering capacity, something that involves satellite-based IMINT, HUMINT and SIGINT. Finding the location and acting quick enough (with enough firepower to saturate the system such that enough missiles get through and bombard the area) are key.

 

[C130]

Knocking out the S-400 - or any powerful air defence system - is a matter of identifying its location, and then priming high-speed stand-off munitions to knock them out. Much easier said than done as the identification process would require a really high level of intelligence gathering capacity, something that involves satellite-based IMINT, HUMINT and SIGINT. Finding the location and acting quick enough (with enough firepower to saturate the system such that enough missiles get through and bombard the area) are key.

this video best illustrates how the U.S could overcome S-400 and integrated air defense system, but Pakistan doesn't possess the amount of aircraft and weapons to pull it off

I can picture B-52,B1,B2 dropping dozens of MALD-J and JSOW-C1, and EA-18, F-16CJ launching dozens ofAGM-88E, while F-22,F-15C destroy the enemies fighter aircraft in the air.


such a operation would be expensive and not a sure thing either


probably only the U.S could pull off such a scenario in the real world.

 

[Muhammad Omar]

this video best illustrates how the U.S could overcome S-400 and integrated air defense system, but Pakistan doesn't possess the amount of aircraft and weapons to pull it off

I can picture B-52,B1,B2 dropping dozens of MALD-J and JSOW-C1, and EA-18, F-16CJ launching dozens ofAGM-88E, while F-22,F-15C destroy the enemies fighter aircraft in the air.


such a operation would be expensive and not a sure thing either


probably only the U.S could pull off such a scenario in the real world.

Brilliant simply awesome

 

[SQ8]

The Koral is more like a fire radar locator than anything else. What it can do is pinpoint such systems for stand off systems or allow for such radar systems to be targeted by dedicated SEAD packages.

 

[Djinn]

this video best illustrates how the U.S could overcome S-400 and integrated air defense system, but Pakistan doesn't possess the amount of aircraft and weapons to pull it off

I can picture B-52,B1,B2 dropping dozens of MALD-J and JSOW-C1, and EA-18, F-16CJ launching dozens ofAGM-88E, while F-22,F-15C destroy the enemies fighter aircraft in the air.


such a operation would be expensive and not a sure thing either


probably only the U.S could pull off such a scenario in the real world.

Man why are you under the impression that "Pakistan was going to invade India and now it can't"? Pakistani defense posture has always been "DEFENSIVE". With India Acquiring S-400, Pakistan now has a reason to acquire/build it's own long range SAM's and they will pose similar threats to India----If you doubt that Pakistan wouldn't do this then you really don't know Pakistan.

 

[Quwa]

The Koral is more like a fire radar locator than anything else. What it can do is pinpoint such systems for stand off systems or allow for such radar systems to be targeted by dedicated SEAD packages.

Could a system such as Koral be made more 'compact' - i.e. small enough to easily truck around along with an armoured formation? I'm thinking, with its range it could be useful in messing up enemy SHORAD, thereby giving our own CAS assets (e.g. helicopters) some room to operate over enemy tanks. Though 100km is pretty good range, should offer enough of a buffer between it and a tank battle.