Kingdom of Saudi Arabia conducts military exercise "Soldiers of Islam"

[Mosamania]

Same source of funding. Osama was a Saudi national. same DNA.



My assertion is that as in the title of the thread this Al Saud family tries to use religion to justify it's own existence after all they can hardly say to their subjects/slaves the Brits and west helped solidify their rule. The exercise could have been called Britannia or something I suppose. That probably would be more appropriate name to the exercise and therefore this thread.

So in answer to your question yes it is a theocracy created by a non theocratic leadership

So are these soldiers not Muslim??? Do they not pray and say Al-Shahadat?? is this the message you are trying to get across?? Saudi Arabia is NOT a Muslim country??

I feel we are going again off the thread here...

Why cant we discuss here the capabilities if saudi army instead of talking about its legitimacy...

You are apparently new here.... Welcome to PDF.

 

[Deno]

Same source of funding. Osama was a Saudi national. same DNA.



My assertion is that as in the title of the thread this Al Saud family tries to use religion to justify it's own existence after all they can hardly say to their subjects/slaves the Brits and west helped solidify their rule. The exercise could have been called Britannia or something I suppose. That probably would be more appropriate name to the exercise and therefore this thread.

So in answer to your question yes it is a theocracy created by a non theocratic leadership

So because Osama was a Saudi citizen, KSA is responsible for all of his crimes? Than I guess you also believe that all muslims should be responsible for the terrorism of few...

Or it is a theocracy created by religious Saud Family? Or it is a theocracy because Arabs would not live under a non-theocratic state...

 

[Desert Fox]

These so-called "soldiers of Islam" revoked the Saudi citizenship of those who went to Afghan war from Saudi Arabia when the war ended and never allowed Saudi veterans to return to the country.

Instead they sent them all to Pakistan to blow things up and kill Pakistanis, rather then allowing them back into KSA where they could have been imprisoned and Afghans and Pakistanis wouldn't be dieing today.

 

[DRaisinHerald]

Guys chill out...If you hate the Saud family hate that family; what's the point of raging on the Army and the Saudi citizens? Also, Hejaz (Muslim Holy Lands) are under Saudi Arabian gov. and protection, so chill out.

As for Saudi Royals being puppets of USA, think about it once more: Who's the biggest puppet of the USA in this whole world right now? Yeah, that's right: Zardari and co.; Musharraf and a large number of our past Presidents and PMs. So stop with the stupid trolling, it ain't gonna bring you anywhere.

EDIT: Given the fact Saudi Arabian people and Army and 100% Muslim....I don't see why they should't call themselves "soldiers of Islam" if they want to? It's their army, they have the right to call themselves whatever they want.

 

[Desert Fox]

So are these soldiers not Muslim??? Do they not pray and say Al-Shahadat?? is this the message you are trying to get across?? Saudi Arabia is NOT a Muslim country??

Not to go off topic, but isn't that what you guys have been saying about Iranians and all others who don't agree with your interpretation of Islam?

 

[lem34]

So because Osama was a Saudi citizen, KSA is responsible for all of his crimes?

Please see a western source the BBC stating

During the anti-Soviet jihad Bin Laden and his fighters received American and Saudi funding.

BBC NEWS | Middle East | Al-Qaeda's origins and links

Therefore if they were funded by KSA and their leader was a respectable and he was a rich respected Saudi then who do you want us to apportion blame to.

Back to topic I would say that the title of this exercise is very relevant and shows Al Sauds using religion to their own ends as they did with creating Osama

 

[Albatross]

Osama and his crimes have not been proven in any court of law by neutral jury so I feel talking about all that is waste of time yes what we all know for sure he was one man he left the comfort of his home and love of money to fight with his fellow muslims in afghanistan against russia and yes ofcourse he was trained by americans...

On the other hand people who are here talking great of Iran how can you guys justify Irans involvement in balochistan unrest along with india???...why iran has such good relations with our arch rival for decades...

I agree the saudi's are under influence of jews directly or indirectly but they are strengthening themselves and may be of some use if time requires ..Iran only has big mouth like saddam and no real substance...

 

[lem34]

Or it is a theocracy created by religious Saud Family? Or it is a theocracy because Arabs would not live under a non-theocratic state...

Well we wont know what the Arab people want until they get rid of the Al Saud family

Back to topic I think that a more appropriate title should be Proxy of west exercise

 

[Mosamania]

Not to go off topic, but isn't that what you guys have been saying about Iranians and all others who don't agree with your interpretation of Islam?

Actually no we never said that. Makkah and Madinah deny entery for all Non-Muslims yet Iranians and their followers send of the largest Hajj delegations here that's one.

Second there are Saudi Shia clerics all over Haram to guide Shia Muslims and patrol the area for any Shia who has questions. And he is employed by the Haramain Waqf foundation as well. So this completely refutes the "Myth" of Saudi Arabia considering Shias not Muslims however there are extremists on both sides but I find it very peculiar that you only pick the extremists from this side to pain the entire country with...

 

[Deno]

Please see a western source the BBC stating

During the anti-Soviet jihad Bin Laden and his fighters received American and Saudi funding.

BBC NEWS | Middle East | Al-Qaeda's origins and links

Therefore if they were funded by KSA and their leader was a respectable and he was a rich respected Saudi then who do you want us to apportion blame to.

Back to topic I would say that the title of this exercise is very relevant and shows Al Sauds using religion to their own ends as they did with creating Osama

Because at that time it was in their interest... They didn't have anything to do with Osama after that other than unwanted family member...

 

[Desert Fox]

No one other than iron fist of Pakistan army in tribal areas and lack of back bone (or the US aid money to corrupt Pakistani politicians) of Pakistani politicians against US drone strikes responsible for suicide bombs in Pakistan

So you are saying Osama and Zawahiri are Pakistani nationals?

Secondly, every Pakistani is against corruption, and corruption has existed in Pakistan before the advent of suicide bombers in our region (Afghanistan-Pakistan region).

Secondly, US drone strikes are all after effects of Saudi terrorism exported to our region.

 

[DRaisinHerald]

No one other than iron fist of Pakistan army in tribal areas and lack of back bone (or the US aid money to corrupt Pakistani politicians) of Pakistani politicians against US drone strikes responsible for suicide bombs in Pakistan

Yep, some people are getting ahead of themselves and blaming people that have nothing to do with problems in our country. The reason Pak is in this mess right now is because the Pak Army is bombing the day lights of FATA which causes the Tribal Pashtun of these areas to take up bombs and start blowing themselves in an act of revenge. Saudis not involved, US and Taliban prolly yes.

 

[lem34]

Guys chill out...If you hate the Saud family hate that family; what's the point of raging on the Army and the Saudi citizens? Also, Hejaz (Muslim Holy Lands) are under Saudi Arabian gov. and protection, so chill out.

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I have made it absolutely clear I have brought up to love Muslims everywhere including Arabs. But this family is relevant as this is pictures of their militia using a name in my opinion that is misleading.

If our holy land are under their protection should we allow them to use the symbolism and speak for all of us no matter if we agree for example with their friendship with Zionists

 

[Deno]

Well we wont know what the Arab people want until they get rid of the Al Saud family

Yes you could.... You can read news about KSA and see what citizens of KSA want to do...

 

[Mosamania]

So you are saying Osama and Zawahiri are Pakistani nationals?

Secondly, every Pakistani is against corruption, and corruption has existed in Pakistan before the advent of suicide bombers in our region (Afghanistan-Pakistan region).

Secondly, US drone strikes are all after effects of Saudi terrorism exported to our region.

Zahrawi is Egyptian.... Why don't you blame Egypt now???

I have made it absolutely clear I have brought up to love Muslims everywhere including Arabs. But this family is relevant as this is pictures of their militia using a name in my opinion that is misleading

Well nobody asked for your opinion anyways now did they??