Kim Jong Un shows off new drones, gives Russian defense chief tour of nukes

[Deino]

As expected multiple UAVs during parade.

Flying or just on a truck?

 

[Deino]

Flying or just on a truck?

Ok ... seems as if I was indeed partially wrong!

... but also partially correct!

... but now the question arises as to who supplied what, because I'm sure you won't tell me that NK has its own engines of this kind?

 

[GWXP]

I remember 10 years ago all analysts of the West were saying that the best North Korea is capable of doing is clustering 4 Scud based Nodong engines and put one Nodong missile on top and that is how they can build Taepodong-2 ICBM.

If someone would have said back then that in 10 years North Korea will have these weapons everyone would have laughed:

1) Hwasong 18 solid fuel ICBM

2) Hwasong 17 liquid fuel ICBM

3) Long-range cruise missile

4) Hypersonic missile

5) Haeil-2 underwater nuclear drone

6) North Korean tank with APS

7) North Korean submarine launched ballistic missile

8) North Korean tactical nuclear warhead

9) North Korean drones

10) North Korean Corvette and ballistic missile submarine

11) North Korean long range air defense system

12) Kumsong-3 anti-ship cruise missile

13) North Korean nuclear torpedo

So either North Koreans are very talented or someone is helping them or both.

Who can help them? Russia? China? Iran?

In 2010 CIA said Iran and North Korea were working together to develop 80ton rocket engine...7 years later in 2017 Hwasong-14 with its 80ton engine was flight tested.

 

[Abid123]

None of this would be necessary if the United States weren't starting wars or interfering overseas every 5 minutes.

 

[Deino]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1684889873365278721

Official names from KCTV:
-"Morning Star-4" (샛별-4) (Global Hawk-type)
-"Morning Star-9" (샛별-9) (Reaper-type)

 

[aryobarzan]

The five stages of "Grief"

1. Denial
2. Anger
3. Bargaining
4. Depression
5. Acceptance

Looks like for North Korea situation many members who only watch CNN are at stage 1...

 

[Mehdipersian]

North korea is a good military power now.
Nobody can underestimate them

 

[CIA Mole]

chief terrorist feudal xi supporting fellow terror states by giving away hardwork of chinese scientists

 

[GreatHanWarrior]

chief terrorist feudal xi supporting fellow terror states by giving away hardwork of chinese scientists

Look at your American dad and mom

 

[Abid123]

I remember 10 years ago all analysts of the West were saying that the best North Korea is capable of doing is clustering 4 Scud based Nodong engines and put one Nodong missile on top and that is how they can build Taepodong-2 ICBM.

If someone would have said back then that in 10 years North Korea will have these weapons everyone would have laughed:

1) Hwasong 18 solid fuel ICBM
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2) Hwasong 17 liquid fuel ICBM
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3) Long-range cruise missile
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4) Hypersonic missile
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5) Haeil-2 underwater nuclear drone
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6) North Korean tank with APS
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7) North Korean submarine launched ballistic missile
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8) North Korean tactical nuclear warhead
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9) North Korean drones
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10) North Korean Corvette and ballistic missile submarine
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11) North Korean long range air defense system
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12) Kumsong-3 anti-ship cruise missile
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13) North Korean nuclear torpedo
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So either North Koreans are very talented or someone is helping them or both.

Who can help them? Russia? China? Iran?

In 2010 CIA said Iran and North Korea were working together to develop 80ton rocket engine...7 years later in 2017 Hwasong-14 with its 80ton engine was flight tested.

Have your whisky loving generals produced anything close to these things in the last 10 years? I am not talking about real estate, golf courses and po*n.

@blain2 @Signalian

 

[That Guy]

China might be providing sophisticated technologies to North Korea.

That's what I'm thinking.

We also know the DPRK has also been accused to hacking into and stealing sensitive US military technology. It would explain why they've been able to produce RQ4 clone. Stolen tech, along with Chinese technical assistance would certainly make advanced drone development like this possible.

 

[serenity]

Nuclear powered torpedo or nuclear armed torpedo? As in like Russia's nuclear powered, nuclear armed example?

Also appears to have HGV similar to DF-17.

And North Korea has SLBM?? India hasn't even managed to produce a real SLBM of intermediate range to intercontinental range. Looks like North Korea's military industry is two steps ahead of India's.

 

[zhxy]

Nuclear powered torpedo or nuclear armed torpedo? As in like Russia's nuclear powered, nuclear armed example?

Also appears to have HGV similar to DF-17.

And North Korea has SLBM?? India hasn't even managed to produce a real SLBM of intermediate range to intercontinental range. Looks like North Korea's military industry is two steps ahead of India's.

The simplest example is the TAI T929 ATAK 2 heavy helicopter. Turkey is the third country in the world to research and develop heavy helicopters > 10 tons after the United States and Russia.

Why don't the UK, France, Germany, Japan and China research and develop heavy helicopters > 10 tons? They have more scientific, technical, technological and specialist qualifications than Türkiye. What prevented them from doing the same?

Because it is more about politics and leadership vision than technology and industrial capacity

 

[serenity]

The simplest example is the TAI T929 ATAK 2 heavy helicopter. Turkey is the third country in the world to research and develop heavy helicopters > 10 tons after the United States and Russia.

Why don't the UK, France, Germany, Japan and China research and develop heavy helicopters > 10 tons? They have more scientific, technical, technological and specialist qualifications than Türkiye. What prevented them from doing the same?

Because it is more about politics and leadership vision than technology and industrial capacity

Of course that's obvious. But India also has desire to produce such weapons. India has two types of submarine launched ballistic missiles but neither are intercontinental ranged. Yes North Korea has intercontinental targets whereas India does not but my post was just showing utter disbelief that NK has made such progress despite having access to no resources or partners comparable to India. China and Russia have offered NK assistance perhaps in limited ways here and there but India has access to the West and Russia.

As for NK's weapons shown, it is simply too impressive a country with such limited resources are able to keep up.

The HGV is a strange one. I suspect China sold DF-17 to NK directly. To develop and then to produce HGV, the industrial basis is simply too far beyond NK's current state of industry. Would require hypersonic wind tunnels of many types, down to the specific details of every tool used along the process, it is simply too much to ask of NK. Looks like their own booster system and vehicles but HGV section may simply be DF-17 sold to NK. As for the support network of satellites and HALE drones necessary for targeting, NK has none of those so what use is the HGV?

 

[TheSolution]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1684889873365278721

Official names from KCTV:
-"Morning Star-4" (샛별-4) (Global Hawk-type)
-"Morning Star-9" (샛별-9) (Reaper-type)

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These drones look more like the American versions than even the American ones lol