Key US lawmakers not willing to back military aid to Pakistan

[FalconsForPeace]

WASHINGTON: Key members of US Congress are not prepared to support military aid to Pakistan, said Elizabeth Trudeau, Director Office of Press Relations State Department, underscoring the strains in relations between the two countries.

When asked during a daily press briefing on Thursday whether the House Armed Services Committee increased the condition for the release of the Coalition Support Funds until and unless US State Department certifies that Islamabad has taken appropriate action against the Haqqani Network, she said: “I will note key members of Congress have been clear they’re not prepared to support US military aid to Pakistan absent some specific actions”.

“As always, we’re committed to working with Congress to deliver security assistance to our partners and allies. It furthers US goals by building capacity to meet shared security challenges,” she added.

She parried a question in connection with financing of F-16 aircraft. Asked whether the state department is willing to certify that Islamabad is taking enough action against the militant group she said:“we’ve spoken about our views on Haqqani quite a bit as well as what we view Pakistan needs to do. “

Trudeau said Pakistan has spoken that they would not discriminate against (militant) groups. “We could encourage them to continue to live up to that,” she added.

Pakistan’s Foreign Affairs Adviser Sartaj Aziz on Thursday admitted there was a ‘stalemate’ in relations with Washington during the last three months.

“A glimpse of it is seen in the US Congress decision of denying subsidy on the sale of F-16 jets to Pakistan,” he said while winding up a debate in Senate.

He said Islamabad would take up the issue of the financing of F-16 fighter jets with the US authorities during talks from May 30 and June 3.

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[That Guy]

The thing is, people often make the mistake of thinking Pakistan needs the aid to buy these F-16s, it doesn't. The truth is that it is a matter of principle that Pakistan is being so firm and adamant about its decision. The proof is in the pudding, and the pudding reveals that Pakistan is more than willing to go elsewhere, even if those other air crafts are more expensive and won't be subsidized.

Keep in mind, it was the US that approached Pakistan about a potential sale of F-16s, not the other way around.

 

[MilSpec]

Keep in mind, it was the US that approached Pakistan about a potential sale of F-16s, not the other way around.

that sounds weird, your fleet planing driven by US's offer rather than your own strategic planning?

 

[New Resolve]

US lawmakers becoming very naughty lately.

 

[Dalit]

US lawmakers becoming very naughty lately.

These tensions have been simmering for a very long time now. Frankly, this is a good development. We need to decide whether this bogus relationship can go on in its current form. It is bad for both the US and Pakistan.

 

[Laozi]

The proof is in the pudding, and the pudding reveals that Pakistan is more than willing to go elsewhere, even if those other air crafts are more expensive and won't be subsidized.

These tensions have been simmering for a very long time now. Frankly, this is a good development.

All this Blessing in disguise stuff is just a cover up.

Policy makers in Pakistani establishment are finding themselves in a catch-22 situation with regards to Haqqani Network. While It appears that Uncle Sam is trying to twist Pakistan into submission into their demands of Do More.

Since Pakistan is more comfortable with Chinese non-interfering policies wrt to Pakistan's internal matters, It has finally decided to move away from American Aid and embraced Chinese Loans.

 

[Dalit]

All this Blessing in disguise stuff is just a cover up.

Policy makers in Pakistani establishment are finding themselves in a catch-22 situation with regards to Haqqani Network. While It appears that Uncle Sam is trying to twist Pakistan into submission into their demands of Do More.

Since Pakistan is more comfortable with Chinese non-interfering policies wrt to Pakistan's internal matters, It has finally decided to move away from American Aid and embraced Chinese Loans.

You're mistaken. Pakistan will do whatever is in its best interest and always has acted this way despite any situation. The Americans ought to know this by now.

Here's what the Americans need to understand and act on. Unless Afghanistan stops being a sanctuary for Indian terror consulates which train suicide attackers against Pakistan there won't be any progress. No amount of pressure will change this fact. All of this is happening right under the nose of Uncle Sam's presence in Afghanistan.

If the Americans fail to address Pakistan's legitimate concerns, Pakistan will be forced to take tough measures such as building more fences on the border and get tougher with potential Afghan terrorists entering Pakistani borders. It all depends on Uncle Sam and how serious they are in addressing Pakistan's security concerns.

Pakistan doesn't receive Chinese aid to do more. The CPEC project is a clear indication.

 

[Laozi]

You're mistaken. Pakistan will do whatever is in its best interest and always has acted this way despite any situation. The Americans ought to know this by now.

Here's what the Americans need to understand and act on. Unless Afghanistan stops being a sanctuary for Indian terror consulates which train suicide attackers against Pakistan there won't be any progress. No amount of pressure will change this fact. All of this is happening right under the nose of Uncle Sam's presence in Afghanistan.

If the Americans fail to address Pakistan's legitimate concerns, Pakistan will be forced to take action such as building more fences on the border and get tougher with potential Afghan terrorists entering Pakistani borders. It all depends on Uncle Sam and how serious they are in addressing Pakistan's security concerns.

Pakistan doesn't receive Chinese aid to do more. The CPEC project is a clear indication.

You have endorsed everything what I have stated in my Post.

Yet you say that I am mistaken

Do let me know which part of my post will be questioned by anyone in Pakistan

 

[Dalit]

You have endorsed everything what I have stated in my Post.

Yet you say that I am mistaken

Do let me know which part of my post will be questioned by anyone in Pakistan

All this Blessing in disguise stuff is just a cover up.

Policy makers in Pakistani establishment are finding themselves in a catch-22 situation with regards to Haqqani Network.

I don't agree with this. Whilst the Americans are applying pressure they are ignoring our legitimate concerns. Pakistan isn't in a catch-22 situation because like I said, it has the means to address its concerns in multiple other ways. Ways, which the Afghans and the Americans aren't going to like.

I do think that the deteriorating relation between the US and Pakistan is a blessing in disguise. The people of Pakistan are fed up with this ugly and bogus relationship.

 

[weqi]

Now Pakistan Don't Need to go for these F-16 which LM TN willing to manufacture in a country which made russian technology suspicious i mean su makhi and now they are going ra fell and may be 16f

 

[shah1398]

that sounds weird, your fleet planing driven by US's offer rather than your own strategic planning?

Its the financing part we are talking about. Who in the right mind wud deny something almost free?

 

[MilSpec]

Its the financing part we are talking about. Who in the right mind wud deny something almost free?

there are no free meals, you pay a lot more by accepting the allegedly "free" items.

 

[AhsanAmin]

I wrote this post on another thread but it is relevant to discussion here.

I think this is a very good time for soul searching by Pakistanis as a nation. We need to also ask ourselves whether US is a real friend or an enemy in a friend's hide. I think it is in US interest to keep our nation under her influence and also keep it as backward as they can without ever making this intention obvious. US has no real interests in Pakistan that match with Pakistani interests. If there are any real interests, they are to contain our nuclear weapons while stemming rise of a 'Muslim nation' as seen by their think tanks, policy makers and neocon and jewish-hardliners. If we do not understand it, we are always going to suffer as a nation. Their biased and religiously poisoned policy makers and think tanks do not have much regard for understanding Muslims as equal humans and they are unable to grow out of their crusader hatred mentality that prevailed Europe for centuries. Though the reports of their think tanks continue to belie their nefarious intentions towards muslim countries, the US defence department officials are not stupid to let their systematic hatred and biases become obvious to our countries when they meet our officials. Most Muslim countries and their populations have no designs on US at all in their wildest imaginations but unfortunately we just cannot go to the extreme limit of changing our religion to please these people filled with systematic hatred. But it seems that many of these people do not have the capacity to acknowledge us as equal humanity as long as we remain Muslims however peace loving or cooperative our people or governments become in controlling terrorism or other expressions of hatred towards western countries.

Let us put a few facts together. How much aid US is giving us as a nation? What are our military hardware requirements that are fulfilled by sourcing military equipment from US defence companies?

US gave us 648 million US dollars in aid in 2015 as US govt source says here. http://beta.foreignassistance.gov/explore/country/Pakistan

I would like to ask this question to intelligent Pakistanis whether 648 million dollars are really that important for a country the size of Pakistan that we continue to undermine our sovereignty and take decisions under US influence that hurt our country forever. When US interferes in our internal matters and many decisions that our nation takes under foreign influence have very far reaching implications though they seem benign and harmless to many ordinary Pakistanis who are not aware of mentality of US defence department at work in our nations. If any aid comes to this country, it is decided by US embassy who to give this aid and how to distribute it among Pakistanis and the aid almost always goes to US cronies who start influencing the decision making of Pakistani government so as to damage the interests of Pakistan as dictated by US agencies. In a poor country, through their aid, they maintain a class of influential and rich cronies who continue to damage the interests of Pakistan upon foreign orders.

If we are sincere as Pakistanis to put our heads together to find out ways to make our nation one of the fastest growing nations of Asia, we can achieve this goal through comprehensive planning in just five years. And we do not need any special foreign assistance for this purpose and we could do this with just indigenous resources and intelligence.

Source: https://defence.pk/threads/relation...hree-months-admits-aziz.430345/#ixzz48WZKdmGJ

 

[Ankit Kumar 002]

The deal will eventually go through. Uncle SAM is just trying to bargain and get Pakistan to pay more.

 

[That Guy]

that sounds weird, your fleet planing driven by US's offer rather than your own strategic planning?

Pakistan is planning on getting rid of 190 air crafts by 2020, this deal would have helped cover a portion of capability loss rather quickly, which is the only reason why PAF was interested.

As it is, PAF now has the incentive to further develop and fund the JF-17s.