Kerry’s soft line on Pakistan a sore subject

[thestringshredder]

Speech on first day of visit focuses on energy, attention on terrorism reference in meeting with Khurshid on Monday

U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry avoided associating Pakistan with terrorism and instead advised India to deepen bilateral trade ties with its neighbour. On his first visit after taking over as Secretary of State, Mr. Kerry hoped the two countries build up enough trust to start investing in each other’s economies so that “others could invest in you,” he said in a reference to the hostility between the two countries that keeps many potential investors away.

Mr. Kerry arrived here for the fourth Indo-US Strategic Dialogue that is chaired by the foreign ministers of both countries. Departing from his predecessor Hillary Clinton’s line of commiserating with the victims of the 2008 Mumbai attacks, he opted to sympathise with the victims of the Uttarakhand flash floods instead.

His stance on India-Pakistan ties, articulated during a 45-minute speech this evening, left Indian diplomats displeased because Mr. Kerry has the perception of being soft on Pakistan unlike Ms. Clinton. Diplomats will now wait for the joint statement to be released after his strategic dialogue with External Affairs Minister Salman Khurshid on Monday to see if it will mention “safe havens of terrorism”, a euphemism to anti-Kabul elements based in Pakistan’s Federally Administered Tribal Areas such as South Waziristan and Khyber on the Af-Pak border.

Mr. Kerry also said improved India-Pakistan ties are a catalyst for promoting regional trade and connectivity, which in turn could turn around Afghanistan’s fortunes. Last year, India-Pakistan trade had gone up by 21 per cent, but Mr. Kerry said there was still a long way to go. Both countries have had an acrimonious past but there is a new leadership in place in Islamabad which has indicated that economical revival is its number one priority. This approach could mark the “beginning of a new era” and “hopefully improve trust.” While half of his speech was devoted to clean energy and how India needs to be proactive, Mr. Kerry also touched on Afghanistan. India and the U.S. differ on holding talks with the Taliban leadership.

Mr. Kerry sought to draw New Delhi’s attention to next year’s presidential elections in Afghanistan that could mark the first-ever peaceful transition of leadership in recent history. The U.S. wants Taliban to renounce violence, break its ties with Al Qaida and accept the Afghan Constitution before any settlement with the group could be taken up, he said.

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[FaujHistorian]

Speech on first day of visit focuses on energy, attention on terrorism reference in meeting with Khurshid on Monday

U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry avoided associating Pakistan with terrorism and instead advised India to deepen bilateral trade ties with its neighbour. ......, left Indian diplomats displeased

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Same old $hit from 1700 AD.

British East Company was able to pit one Indian Raja against the other.

150 years later, the whole damned region was under British control.


Fast forward to 2013, two of the largest rajas aka Indian Raja and Pakistani Raja are sucking up to yet another power,

Putting each other down in front of yet another gora power.

Of these two rajas, Indian Raja is 7 times bigger population wise, and 12-15 times bigger budget wise.

And yet this Indian Raja is so pathetic, so miskeen, so gharib, tghat it begs, lifts dhoti in front of America

crying, weeping, screaming in front of Americans, that please save me from this Pakistani raja.

Pakistani raja marta hai mujhay, bachao bachao.


this is so pathetic, so very Indian.

That a 7 feet tall goes crying from post to pillar that a 4 foot midget should be declared terrorist.


Americans don't say this on the face of it,

but in private they laugh their @rse off at this eunuch behavior of Indians.


May be this should be blamed on the caste mentality, where lower caste member aka Indian diplomats must beg and plead in front of upper caste member aka America.

But then the same fing Indian diplomats hate to "seriously" resolve mutual issues with the lower caste Pakistani diplomats.

This is how castes in India have forked each other for centuries. So what's knew.


Indians don't even realize that they should have a heart big enough, and a back bone strong enough to setup mutual communication offices in addition to embassies where the two monitor the border together, and take care of any SOB Talib@stards who may threaten either Pakistan or India.

But sadly Indians will remain diplomatically challenged when it comes to Pakistan.


same old 200 years old rhetoric, same old raja mentality that allowed even small bands of war lords to show up in Indian heartlands of UP and Bihar and rule the Indian @rses (and by extension Pakistani @rses) for 1000s of years.

You put down Pakistani raja, kill it, maim it, destroy its economy, but then karma will get your @rse in 2150 AD, and you too will be the slave being ruled by Chinese. But Indian raja won't understand until it is too late.

Too late to bring back the old glory.

Pathetic see Pathetic do.

Shameless turds.

Sad to say.

 

[EagleEyes]

Kerry wants a stable Pakistan so it can control the security situation in the border areas.

How can that happen? Better Pakistan economy by trade.

Another thing Kerry can do though is to stop the drones, that is if peaceful negotiations with the Taliban are fruitful.

 

[muse]

Same old $hit from 1700 AD. .

Come on now - you can do better - One single opinion, that's all it is

 

[Icewolf]

Indians are always usually mad about something associated with Pakistan.
Let them go on with their obsessed lives I say...

 

[Kompromat]

Kerry wants a stable Pakistan so it can control the security situation in the border areas.

How can that happen? Better Pakistan economy by trade.

Another thing Kerry can do though is to stop the drones, that is if peaceful negotiations with the Taliban are fruitful.

Kerry has an ambition for the next presidential elections. He also is seeking good ties with Pakistan to help build better ties with China. Its all about how is he seen.

 

[cloud_digger]

Same old $hit from 1700 AD.

British East Company was able to pit one Indian Raja against the other.

150 years later, the whole damned region was under British control.


Fast forward to 2013, two of the largest rajas aka Indian Raja and Pakistani Raja are sucking up to yet another power,

Putting each other down in front of yet another gora power.

Of these two rajas, Indian Raja is 7 times bigger population wise, and 12-15 times bigger budget wise.

And yet this Indian Raja is so pathetic, so miskeen, so gharib, tghat it begs, lifts dhoti in front of America

crying, weeping, screaming in front of Americans, that please save me from this Pakistani raja.

Pakistani raja marta hai mujhay, bachao bachao.


this is so pathetic, so very Indian.......

Wow,simply wow. It took me almost a minute to read your rant. And some people say we are not obsessed with India. Nothing in that rant makes sense.

 

[FaujHistorian]

Wow,simply wow. It took me almost a minute to read your rant. And some people say we are not obsessed with India. Nothing in that rant makes sense.

I wish you had spent additional 5 minutes to read the OP . then in 6 minutes tops, you would understand (Perhaps perhaps) what I was trying to say.

Thank you

 

[Thorough Pro]

Those who depend on others to solve their problems, only sink deeper and deeper

Kerry wants a stable Pakistan so it can control the security situation in the border areas.

How can that happen? Better Pakistan economy by trade.

Another thing Kerry can do though is to stop the drones, that is if peaceful negotiations with the Taliban are fruitful.

 

[FaujHistorian]

Come on now - you can do better - One single opinion, that's all it is

Hazoor-e-wala, Barray Isharon Kanyon main baat ki aap nain.

Kuch bhee na kaha, kuch keh bhee gay

Translation: I have no fing idea what the $hit are you talkin about


p.s. Proof positive: Urdu language is so sweet compared to this darned English.

Those who depend on others to solve their problems, only sink deeper and deeper

Let's hear what you my dear dear dear poster, what would YOU do?

that will stop us from sinking deeper and deeper,

and instead

take our $hit higher and higher.

please.

 

[Pakistanisage]

Well Indians are used to Secretaries of State who are openly Pro-Indian. Kerry is an exception as he has had a lot of Pakistani friends and staffers and understands Pakistani Psyche quite well. Get over it Indians, you win some and you lose some. Don't expect the dice to go your way always.

 

[Areesh]

Kerry is ISI agent in disguise.

 

[muse]

Hazoor-e-wala, Barray Isharon Kanyon main baat ki aap nain.

Kuch bhee na kaha, kuch keh bhee gay

Translation: I have no fing idea what the $hit are you talkin about

p.s. Proof positive: Urdu language is so sweet compared to this darned English.


Let's hear what you my dear dear dear poster, what would YOU do?

that will stop us from sinking deeper and deeper, and instead take our $hit higher and higher.

please.

Lol - Flourish and at your advance age - Give them their pound of flesh - All they wanted to say is they are not happy, that's all.

 

[Arya Desa]

pakistan relies on others to fix their country, to govern their country, for basically everything. Grow up and stop blaming others. Fix your country with your OWN hands. Of course this will fall on deaf ears.

 

[FaujHistorian]

pakistan relies on others to fix their country, to govern their country, for basically everything. Grow up and stop blaming others. Fix your country with your OWN hands. Of course this will fall on deaf ears.

My dear Pope sahib,

your pontification about Pakistan may well be considered the next winner of Pulitzer Prize.

But

Do keep in mind, this thread is about Indian diplomats crying nay weeping about Kerry. or perhaps in front of Kerry.

So discuss the OP please.


Thank you