Kerala IS couple visited Lanka before vanishing - Indian Media

[Saradiel]

Fathima (Nimisha) and Eeza (Bexon Vincent), the couple from Kerala, India who have allegedly joined the Islamic State, were in Sri Lanka for over two months before disappearing, a highly-placed source told Express on Thursday, Indian Media reports.

According to Indian intelligence agencies, Sri Lanka has emerged as one of the hotspots for Islamic studies, mainly for the Salafi sect following Wahhabism. It is also an easy access destination for Indians as they can visit without major security hiccups.

“They arrived from Tamil Nadu and went to Kochi after staying in Sri Lanka for over two months. Further details are not available,” the source said on condition of anonymity.

The Sri Lankan police had conducted investigations following revelations in the media that the couple were in Lanka before they disappeared, presumably to join the IS, the source said. However, DIG Ajith Rohana, the Lankan police spokesman, denied their visit to Lanka. “I enquired with the intelligence and they said they have no information on the arrival or sojourn of the Kerala couple,” Rohana said. Hisham, an office-bearer of the Salafi Foundation in Lanka, said he too has no information about the presence of non-Lankans in the Salafi institutions across the country.

“The Salafi madrassa in Negombo is a very small one operating in a house,” he said. Maulvi Mubarak, secretary of the Jamiyathul Ulema of Sri Lanka, also said he was not aware of any foreigners coming to Lanka to learn Salafi Islam which is propagated by Tawheed Jamaath in Sri Lanka.

Yusnus, leader of Tawheed, too denied the presence of the Kerala couple, New Indian Express reports. - See more at: http://www.adaderana.lk/news/36076/...e-vanishing-indian-media#sthash.lChYkDbQ.dpuf

 

[Gibbs]

Yep.. As i have mentioned numerous times before the main body of Salafist/ Wahhabi extremism is propagated by Thawfeek Jamaat in Sri Lanka, It originated from Tamil Nadu.. Most of it's preachers too somehow find their way to the island from Tamil Nadu

 

[nair]

Yep.. As i have mentioned numerous times before the main body of Salafist/ Wahhabi extremism is propagated by Thawfeek Jamaat in Sri Lanka, It originated from Tamil Nadu.. Most of it's preachers too somehow find their way to the island from Tamil Nadu

To be honest i was surprised to see "Lanka" name in this mess..... Or was not expecting it to be involved in any way ..... but yes Morons are there in every country and every society..... Hope this opens the eyes of authorities there......

In kerala, there is not much has happened, Both the leading alliances (LDF & UDF) is playing safe and do not want to disturb their vote banks and NDA trying to cash in as much as they can .......

 

[Gibbs]

To be honest i was surprised to see "Lanka" name in this mess..... Or was not expecting it to be involved in any way ..... but yes Morons are there in every country and every society..... Hope this opens the eyes of authorities there......

In Kerala, there is not much has happened, Both the leading alliances (LDF & UDF) is playing safe and do not want to disturb their vote banks and NDA trying to cash in as much as they can .......

I think for most part the Wahhabi's have been kept "In Check" somewhat after the initial attacks on Sufi Shrines about a decade ago owing to the reactionary forces by the likes of far right Buddhist groups such as Bodu Bala Sena etc.. Led by monks.. Even though i completely detest their own bigotry and often racist and violent means ironically the Islamic extremist's have been kept under wraps because of it.. But that doesn't means they're not operating underground, As this incident shows

Fundamentalism is gaining ground making the mainstream society very uneasy lately, Mainly through petro dollars from Saudi and people returning from the Gulf bringing alien Arabic customs back to the island

I guess the same trend happens in Kerala by large, In spite of it's huge diaspora working in the middle east ?

The biggest worry is the general silence of the so called majority Muslim communities in our respective nations against the modes operandi of these organizations, Orgs that they themselves say act contrary to the teachings of Islam

 

[nair]

I guess the same trend happens in Kerala by large, In spite of it's huge diaspora working in the middle east ?

We have a huge population working in Middle east, most of them work in Soudi........ It is very difficult for agencies to keep a track on them as their back ground is hidden in KSA and their stay here is very short........ But i do not think that had any impact on those who has joined ISIS recently..... They have got influenced thru internet and classes like the one mentioned in OP........

At times i wonder, is there a way to remove religion from this world????? That would solve lot of our problems.....

 

[Gibbs]

We have a huge population working in Middle east, most of them work in Soudi........ It is very difficult for agencies to keep a track on them as their back ground is hidden in KSA and their stay here is very short........ But i do not think that had any impact on those who has joined ISIS recently..... They have got influenced thru internet and classes like the one mentioned in OP........

At times i wonder, is there a way to remove religion from this world????? That would solve lot of our problems.....

One huge favor that India could do in this regard is to put unbridled diplomatic pressure on Lankan authorities to crack down on these Wahhabi's in the island, The local polity seems to be reluctant to take major action due to domestic political compulsions, Especially the current govt that more or less rely on minority vote base

It will be both vital for the internal security in India and the region as a whole but they also do need to check whats going on within your states especially in Tamil Nadu and Kerala, Kerala seems to be getting most of the flack in India media but most of these organizations and preachers emanate from Tamil Nadu which most seem to ignore

 

[nair]

It will be both vital for the internal security in India and the region as a whole but they also do need to check whats going on within your states especially in Tamil Nadu and Kerala, Kerala seems to be getting most of the flack in India media but most of these organizations and preachers emanate from Tamil Nadu which most seem to ignore

I dont think Lanka was in the radar (on a significant way) till now, as they had major issues in other fronts and other countries and their focus would have been in that direction..... this does put the lankan route in to their radar, and most probably the gaps there would be plugged for a long time .....

Again kerala get lot of attention if you go by PDF.... because of certain reasons....... Cherry picking......... But yes there are issues here, as we have a mix of population, and there is no minority in it real means..... every religion is majority here....But there are certian factions which goes on the extreme ways...... The problem is the political parties.... These #@&*$#% (I leave it to fill that word based on your imaginations) worry only about their vote banks.......

 

[HeinzG]

To be honest i was surprised to see "Lanka" name in this mess..... Or was not expecting it to be involved in any way ..... but yes Morons are there in every country and every society..... Hope this opens the eyes of authorities there......

In kerala, there is not much has happened, Both the leading alliances (LDF & UDF) is playing safe and do not want to disturb their vote banks and NDA trying to cash in as much as they can .......

The situation in Sri Lanka is just like a volcano about to be erupted. Nor the Sinhalese or Muslims understand how bad the events would turn out to be if they both clashed again.

The biggest worry is the general silence of the so called majority Muslim communities in our respective nations against the modes operandi of these organizations, Orgs that they themselves say act contrary to the teachings of Islam

They will never condemn the acts of the extremists. If only something ugly happened they will come out condemning it saying it's not taught in our religion. AFAIK there is a recent aggressive trend going on in the mainstream Muslim community. As I said earlier it will be like match to the haystack.

Again kerala get lot of attention if you go by PDF.... because of certain reasons....... Cherry picking......... But yes there are issues here, as we have a mix of population, and there is no minority in it real means..... every religion is majority here....But there are certian factions which goes on the extreme ways...... The problem is the political parties.... These #@&*$#% (I leave it to fill that word based on your imaginations) worry only about their vote banks.......

Democracy is a curse to a nation state where there are religious nutcases are involved.

 

[Saradiel]

The situation in Sri Lanka is just like a volcano about to be erupted. Nor the Sinhalese or Muslims understand how bad the events would turn out to be if they both clashed again.



They will never condemn the acts of the extremists. If only something ugly happened they will come out condemning it saying it's not taught in our religion. AFAIK there is a recent aggressive trend going on in the mainstream Muslim community. As I said earlier it will be like match to the haystack.



Democracy is a curse to a nation state where there are religious nutcases are involved.

While it is true extremism among Muslims in SL is rising we should never ever club the average Muslim with these crazy fellows. To defeat this extremism and intolerance we need to support and cooperation of average Muslims and they too need our support. So dont turn this issue of extremism into some Sinhala-Muslim clash. That is the worst thing one can do at this moment.

To be honest i was surprised to see "Lanka" name in this mess..... Or was not expecting it to be involved in any way ..... but yes Morons are there in every country and every society..... Hope this opens the eyes of authorities there......

In kerala, there is not much has happened, Both the leading alliances (LDF & UDF) is playing safe and do not want to disturb their vote banks and NDA trying to cash in as much as they can .......

Actually we have a kerala like situation in SL, it is not only the climate that both Keralites and SLs share together. Current SL politicians ignore such issues for minority votes and especially because of Tamil conflict. SLG does not try to fix this Muslim exremism issue fearing they will in turn get blamed by the outside world as now 'turning their guns on Muslims' while it is far from reality . It result in giving the extremists a free hand in carrying out their work.

@nair

http://www.asianmirror.lk/news/item...awala-madina-college-sds-demands-taliban-laws

Just refer this
No Sports For Girls, No Non-Muslim Teachers: Madawala Madina College SDS Demands Taliban Laws At School

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Madina Central College, Madawala, School Development Society has made a controversial request from education authorities in Central Province to appoint Muslim teachers from Madawala area to the school and transfer Muslim teachers of other regions and non-Muslim teachers from the school.

In a letter addressed to the Assistant Education Director of the Muslim Unit in Central Province Education Office, the SDS says that teachers arriving from far away and non-Muslim teachers have created cultural issues in the school.

The SDS views the increase of non-Muslim teachers in the staff and the increase of teachers from other areas as an added burden.

The status of the school has rapidly decreased due to the cultural and other issues arising from this, the SDS says.

Teachers from far away areas arrive late to school, decreasing the quality of the education offered to the students, the SDS argues.

Meanwhile, the SDS laments at the 'westernization' of the school and especially the opportunity given to female students to take part in sports activities.

Furthermore, it was reported that rotten eggs were thrown at non-Muslim teachers at an event recently at school. A video, allegedly showing the incident, was uploaded on social media recently.

 

[Gibbs]

While it is true extremism among Muslims in SL is rising we should never ever club the average Muslim with these crazy fellows. To defeat this extremism and intolerance we need to support and cooperation of average Muslims and they too need our support. So dont turn this issue of extremism into some Sinhala-Muslim clash. That is the worst thing one can do at this moment.

Exactly.. If they try to portray this as a clash of communities, The consequences would be worse, And i agree while Islamic extremism like Wahhabism is growing still the vast majority of Muslims in Sri Lanka and secular and mainstream.. While they are held by their own religious dogma that prevents them from openly condemning extremists within their community, (Bar few brave souls) Sri Lankan Muslims by far are still a very peaceful community, So they should be pushed to extremism by branding all with one label

 

[HeinzG]

While it is true extremism among Muslims in SL is rising we should never ever club the average Muslim with these crazy fellows. To defeat this extremism and intolerance we need to support and cooperation of average Muslims and they too need our support. So dont turn this issue of extremism into some Sinhala-Muslim clash. That is the worst thing one can do at this moment.

There is no way of identifying these crazy fellows until they commit the crime.

I'm not supporting the Sinhala-Muslim clash but what I say is that a clash is inevitable. The only way to curb that is to heavy government crack down on known suspects. That's possible only if our intelligence service was up to the mark.

 

[takeiteasy]

Srilankan Muslims are ethnically and culturally similar to Tamilnadu Muslims, right? So, AFAIK Salafism is less influential among Tamil Muslims and they are more interested in Tamil language and culture like their Hindu brethren.I've interacted with Thulukkar Muslims in Idukki district and they are more into Vazhga Tamil, Vazhga Tamizhan mentality.

 

[Gibbs]

Srilankan Muslims are ethnically and culturally similar to Tamilnadu Muslims, right? So, AFAIK Salafism is less influential among Tamil Muslims and they are more interested in Tamil language and culture like their Hindu brethren.I've interacted with Thulukkar Muslims in Idukki district and they are more into Vazhga Tamil, Vazhga Tamizhan mentality.

There are three main groups of Muslims in Sri Lanka..

The Moors who's ancestors are Moorish traders from the Middle East and Northern Africa, The first Muslim Settlers in the Country, They reside mainly in the South Western Coastal belt and the the Central hinterlands.. They speak Sinhalese and some Tamil, And Ethnically linked Arabs, Most are secular in religious beliefs and considerable number of Sufi's among them

Then you get the South Indian Tamil Muslims bought over by the Portuguese and Dutch colonists from the Malabar and Corromendal coasts in South India as indentured labor for tobacco plantations, Lives mainly in the East and North and in Colombo.. They only speak Tamil, Ethnically and culturally similar to Tamils, This is the group that tend to be more fundamentalist prone and in recent year's have grown in population compared to other Muslims

And lastly the Malays from the Malay peninsular and Java, Arrived at the time of the Dutch as mercenaries and soldiers, Settled mainly in Colombo, Galle and Hambantota.. Ethnically South East Asian and speaks Sinhalese and Bahasa Malayu (Malay)

Then you have the smaller communities of Bohra, Afghans, Memon and Pakistani's

So no not all Lankan Muslims are ethnically similar to Tamils, Hence why despite some propaganda, Want to keep their distinct ethnicity intact from the larger Tamil community.. Something very different than Tamil Nadu where Muslims also consider themselves Tamil

 

[Godman]

WTH is going on in Kerala anyway?

The Moors who's ancestors are Moorish traders from the Middle East and Northern Africa, The first Muslim Settlers in the Country, They reside mainly in the South Western Coastal belt and the the Central hinterlands.. They speak Sinhalese and some Tamil, And Ethnically linked Arabs, Most are secular in religious beliefs and considerable number of Sufi's among them

Well these guys are mostly businessmen who run various shops across SL specially in Colombo so these things are pretty bad for them. They have been living like that for generations but they are also the victims of hate attacks by groups like BBS who justify it by showing extreme islamists which could push them to extremism as well

 

[takeiteasy]

WTH is going on in Kerala anyway?

Kerala has a large sunni Muslim population. There is radicalism gaining in some Malabar districts. Reports of love jihad and such. Unlike Srilanka, the Muslims form 30% or more of Kerala population and these Muslims are called Mappilas who are anyway different from the Muslims of the rest of India. They follow Arab ways directly and follows Shafi fiqh unlike 90% of the rest of Muslims who are hanafites. Ulemas in the north have least influence here. In fact, one of the syeds(Thangal) joined BJP and contested in Malappuram district. Though, RSS fellows claims Kerala as future Kashmir, there is no such indicators there apart from few cases. The temperament of regions are different. Unlike the North India, Kerala is peaceful and progressive, secular.