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Kashmiri actor starring in “Haider” martyred by Indian forces

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Fair enough if thats what they feel. I respect that. We respect that. However once you pick up the gun, it doesnt matter who or what you are, it is necessary that you die. As long as the kids understand this and the consequences, they are free to do as they deem. Regrettable, yes, but their choice and the concomitant consequences. We only respond.

Your not responding, your occupying their homes

The whole point of Partition was that they didnt have to live side by side with or see hindus


Kashmir has been lost to india, you get excited about a handful of deaths when the entire population has turned anti Indian
 
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Fair enough if thats what they feel. I respect that. We respect that. However once you pick up the gun, it doesnt matter who or what you are, it is necessary that you die.
That is not respect! That is bigotry! You put them in that state then kill them instead of making their state better...isnt that the job of the govt? OH yes, Kashmir is not a part of india that is why india doesnt do that :agree:

That the two countries are resolved to settle their differences by peaceful means through bilateral negotiations or by any other peaceful means mutually agreed upon between them. Pending the final settlement of any of the problems between the two countries, neither side shall unilaterally alter the situation and both shall prevent the organisation, assistance or encouragement of any acts detrimental to the maintenance of peaceful and harmonious relations.
This literally means disputed if neither side is allowed to UNILATERALLY ALTER the situation!

Good you agree Kashmir is a disputed territory...Now kindly stop trolling!
 
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You are no one tell us, of what people of Jammu and Kashmir want from us or not.

Pakistan is a party to the unresolved, internationally recognized, Kashmir dispute on the agenda of UNSC, and the final accession of J&K to Pakistan or India, in accordance with the will of people of J&K, is yet to be decided as per UN Resolutions, and under International law.
 
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We only respond.
THAT is the problem! In a proper democratic state, the state doesnt respond like a ego ridden stubborn child but tries to RESOLVE it!

So, you admit your country is being immature! That is EXACTLY what the world is claiming! Thank you for agreeing!
 
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Your not responding, your occupying their homes

The whole point of Partition was that they didnt have to live side by side with or see hindus


Kashmir has been lost to india, you get excited about a handful of deaths when the entire population has turned anti Indian

Well if Muslims don't want to live side by side Hindus or see hindus, they can go back to, where they came from. Indian subcontinent is not an Islamic fiefdom, neither are Muslims indigenous to the Indian subcontinent, but byproducts of a foreign invasion.

Pakistan is a party to the unresolved, internationally recognized, Kashmir dispute on the agenda of UNSC, and the final accession of J&K to Pakistan or India, in accordance with the will of people of J&K, is yet to be decided as per UN Resolutions, and under International law.

So ? You think, that gives you a right to tell us, what people of Jammu and Kashmir, want from us?
 
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THAT is the problem! In a proper democratic state, the state doesnt respond like a ego ridden stubborn child but tries to RESOLVE it!

So, you admit your country is being immature! That is EXACTLY what the world is claiming! Thank you for agreeing!

Read up the newspapers and articles circa 2007-08 to even 2011. Indian government was drawing down tens of thousands of troops from Kashmir each year. By some estimates over a hundred thousand were pulled out in a year. Houses, schools, the sites of army camps in towns for nearly 20 years were being vacated and handed over to civilians, this was happening across Kashmir. There was real talk that AFSPA would be drawn down district wise over the next few years.

What did India get in return? Increase in violence, riots, radicalization, more killings, more militants. From 2013-14 India had to do an about face and redeploy additional troops into Kashmir. Whose fault was it?

When a similar effort was made by GOI in my state, we grabbed it whole heartedly, an violence and support for violence collapsed. The state has never been more peaceful than now.

Kashmiris choose violence when the government tried to reduce its presence. Now they bear the consequences.
 
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So ? You think, that gives you a right to tell us, what people of Jammu and Kashmir, want from us?

Yes, it does.

India needs to be reminded that Indian admission into the State of Jammu and Kashmir is provisional. India has taken over under the UNCIP Resolutions ONLY to assist in establishing a representative provisional administration at Srinagar, to work for creating a conducive atmosphere for holding a free and fair Plebiscite for all the people of the State of Jammu and Kashmir. Pakistan as a party to the dispute administers two administrations of the State on its side of the cease-fire line.
 
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Indian government was drawing down tens of thousands of troops from Kashmir each year. By some estimates over a hundred thousand were pulled out in a year. Houses, schools, the sites of army camps in towns for nearly 20 years were being vacated and handed over to civilians, this was happening across Kashmir. There was real talk that AFSPA would be drawn down district wise over the next few years.
So indians moving their illegal occupation and moving out needed a clapping? Seriously?

What did India get in return?
india should have done that decades ago! The fact that they didnt even last a few yrs shows they werent serious!

If india moved "out" ...how did this happen? Who did they kill? What did they riot against? Who was the violence against?
Increase in violence, riots, radicalization, more killings, more militants. From 2013-14 India had to do an about face and redeploy additional troops into Kashmir. Whose fault was it?
india wanted to! It didnt have to! Political differences is the right of the people! india went to oppressing and violence on people IT CLAIMS TO BE ITS OWN?! THAT sounds even more evil than anything! Considering half you claim Kashmir to be yours yet dont even give them the power to oppose / express?

Even Paris didnt start shooting the children that opposes their stance neither did USA!!

Thank you for proving india oppressed Kashmiri and didnt just illegally occupy their land against international agreements BUT also started killing the children of the state!
 
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Yes, it does.

India needs to be reminded that Indian admission into the State of Jammu and Kashmir is provisional. India has taken over under the UNCIP Resolutions ONLY to assist in establishing a representative provisional administration at Srinagar, to work for creating a conducive atmosphere for holding a free and fair Plebiscite for all the people of the State of Jammu and Kashmir. Pakistan as a party to the dispute administers two administrations of the State on its side of the cease-fire line.

We don't agree, since by the same resolution, you should not be present at all in the state of Jammu and Kashmir, including GB, which btw you declared as province of Pakistan.

So once you vacate those areas and hand them over to India, then you can tell us, what our responsibilities as per subsequent parts of UN resolutions.
 
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This literally means disputed if neither side is allowed to UNILATERALLY ALTER the situation!
Semantics. Means we will not invade you and you will not invade us.:) Any issues will be solved through negotiation. And we already have conveyed our interest in making LOC as Border.

Good you agree Kashmir is a disputed territory.
In your dreams, Pakistani.
 
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Well if Muslims don't want to live side by side Hindus or see hindus, they can go back to, where they came from. Indian subcontinent is not an Islamic fiefdom, neither are Muslims indigenous to the Indian subcontinent, but byproducts of a foreign invasion.

Kashmiris are from Kashmir, embracing God and dumping our old crazy pagan ways dosent mean black ganga dwellers can tell us what to do on our pure land..

Whole point of Partition was that we didnt want to be indians or have peace with hindus in one country, we struggled to separate

only for india to stupidly try to force a Muslim state into a Indian union full of hindus who we neither like nor wish to beva part of



now Pakistan freed GB and Azad Kashmir but the rest still wants india and hindus out
 
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Any issues will be solved through negotiation. And we already have conveyed our interest in making LOC as Border.
I guess indians dont even know the meaning of the word negotiation...it doesnt mean you convey your interest and hide from talks!

In your dreams, Pakistani.
Naah it just happened on this platform :agree:
 
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We don't agree, since by the same resolution, you should not be present at all in the state of Jammu and Kashmir, including GB, which btw you declared as province of Pakistan.

So once you vacate those areas and hand them over to India, then you can tell us, what our responsibilities as per subsequent parts of UN resolutions.

those areas are 100% Muslim, they hate hindus and indians and dont want to be anywhere near a hindu india
 
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