Kashmir issue can be solved only by Jihad l Maulana Abdul Akbar Chitrali in Assembly

[The Eagle]

I have posted the same in English too here. How do I change the title to English now? When I click Edit it is not allowing me to change the title.

Create thread with English content and then later-on, add the rest of your material translated in English. A video post is different the content being posted later. The post consisting of Video must contain the details explained in translation or at-least conclusive para in English Language.

 

[third eye]

Modi/BJP would like absolutely nothing more than a jihadist war of aggression being forced on India.

Assured win for the next two elections !

 

[Abdul Rehman Majeed]

Modi/BJP would like absolutely nothing more than a jihadist war of aggression being forced on India.

When Jihad is declared by Pakistan, Modi and his ilk will run away and hide in the US or Europe.

Create thread with English content and then later-on, add the rest of your material translated in English. A video post is different the content being posted later. The post consisting of Video must contain the details explained in translation or at-least conclusive para in English Language.

Thank you brother for the advise. Will do it going forward.

 

[-=virus=-]

Assured win for the next two elections !

That they already have been, sir.

Cheering them on for now, now sure if I will for the next 10 years, but it wouldn't matter anyway.

Pretty certain our collective electoral political bhains/crocodile of a nation has gone into the paani for a good long while to come.

It is good to have that kind of leadership on one hand but I wouldn't want them to get too adventurous needlessly, foreign or domestic policy wise.

 

[TruthSeeker]

And If you have complete faith in Allah then these Zionists and Hindu goons can never be able to defeat you.

This idea you state above is the root of the problem that the non-Muslim world has with Muslims. Allah does NOT support all self-proclaimed Muslims against non-Muslims. Allah cares about all his human children, regardless of their human-inspired religious beliefs. However, the belief that Muslims are always supported by Allah in their political disputes causes the very dangerous, intractable conflicts that you see where ever Muslims come into political conflict with non-Muslims. The belief in Muslim superiority above all other humans, and their rights, is hateful.

 

[313ghazi]

He is 100% correct, but he forgets that to fight Jihad you need weapons, wealth and warriors.

Our country has some weapons, but not enough to be able to definitively win a war for sure. We need to invest in weapons to get an overwhelming edge.

Our country cannot do that without wealth. People don't pay taxes, politicians loot the country, businessmen are more interested in politics than profits - wealth will not fall from the Arsh into our laps, we need to work for it.

Finally, do we have warriors? Wars are not fought and won by armies - they are fought and won by nations. The moment we see a fullscale war our political leaders, military leaders and wealthy elites will either look to the west to try and find peace, or they will run. They will not sit in Islambad as Assad did in Damascus. They will not fight in the hills and the streets like the Taliban did. That leaves the rest of us. Do we have the resolve to bury our dead every morning and fight for the rest of the day and night? That is the price ultimately victory will come at.

@Abdul Rehman Majeed

 

[Abdul Rehman Majeed]

He is 100% correct, but he forgets that to fight Jihad you need weapons, wealth and warriors.

Our country has some weapons, but not enough to be able to definitively win a war for sure. We need to invest in weapons to get an overwhelming edge.

Our country cannot do that without wealth. People don't pay taxes, politicians loot the country, businessmen are more interested in politics than profits - wealth will not fall from the Arsh into our laps, we need to work for it.

Finally, do we have warriors? Wars are not fought and won by armies - they are fought and won by nations. The moment we see a fullscale war our political leaders, military leaders and wealthy elites will either look to the west to try and find peace, or they will run. They will not sit in Islambad as Assad did in Damascus. They will not fight in the hills and the streets like the Taliban did. That leaves the rest of us. Do we have the resolve to bury our dead every morning and fight for the rest of the day and night? That is the price ultimately victory will come at.

@Abdul Rehman Majeed

You are right about the mentality of the some elites but PMIK is different and we have enough motivated people in Pakistan who are willing to be part of the Jihad against India.

With regards to weapons, If Taliban can fight the US, Pakistan can surely fight India.

 

[313ghazi]

You are right about the mentality of the some elites but PMIK is different and we have enough motivated people in Pakistan who are willing to be part of the Jihad against India.

With regards to weapons, If Taliban can fight the US, Pakistan can surely fight India.

There is a difference. Each and every nation has an acceptable cost it will pay for a war. It's about what that cost is. The Taliban were willing to let as many people die as need to die, as long as they wrestle back control of their country. I don't think our government is willing to pay that price, i'm sure the Indian government isn't either. That's why wars between our nations last weeks and months, not years.

It's alright you being motivated, but i don't think anyone is willing to see 2-3 million dead to liberate Kashmir, let alone 20-30 million.

 

[Avatar]

Many have tried and failed with far better odds.

 

[jamahir]

And we will sit idle wearing bangles?

Man, you really want a nuclear war ?? You think you will find a bunker to hide in ??

Kashmir needs a political solution.

Here's my contribution towards that :

1. Let India and Pakistan both become governed by the same Progressive / Socialist Direct Democracy system, while remaining two independent countries. This will be like how pre-2003 Iraq and Syria were, both governed by Ba'ath ideology while remaining two independent republics.

2. Let the India-administered Kashmir remain with India and Pakistan-administered Kashmir remain with Pakistan.

3. Convert the LoC into an International Border which is passable by passport for the reasons of trade, tourism and family visits.
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This will remove most of the militant ideology surrounding the Kashmir issue. The only remaining militantism will be of the Regressive religious sort and that can be sorted out by both countries.

And this will also have the great effect of bringing both countries to a Progressive political system and governance.

@litman @fitpOsitive @StormBreaker

 

[Abdul Rehman Majeed]

There is a difference. Each and every nation has an acceptable cost it will pay for a war. It's about what that cost is. The Taliban were willing to let as many people die as need to die, as long as they wrestle back control of their country. I don't think our government is willing to pay that price, i'm sure the Indian government isn't either. That's why wars between our nations last weeks and months, not years.

It's alright you being motivated, but i don't think anyone is willing to see 2-3 million dead to liberate Kashmir, let alone 20-30 million.

You are over estimating these Hindus and Buddhists.

Hindus are weak both physically and mentally.

You declare Jihad and kill a few hundred people and you will see all Hindus & Buddhists of Jammu & Ladakh will run away out of IOK.

IOK will be part of Pakistan in less than a month.


Exodus of Kashmiri Pandits: What happened on January 19, 26 years ago?
26 years ago on this day, Kashmiri Pandits had witnessed a hysteric, macabre night in the form of blaring threats and slogans, asking them to flee their homeland, convert or die.
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January 19, 2016
UPDATED: January 19, 2016 17:43 IST
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The threats had been coming in for a long time, but the night of January 19 is said to have seen a demented assault of a different level. Even 26 years later, Kashmiri Pandits shiver remembering the night that forced them into exodus.


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Ticket to exile: Bus ticket purchased by family on 19th Jan., 1990 when we were forced out of Kashmir. #KPExodusDay



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Several authors have penned down accounts and personal experiences of the exodus over the years. What remains common in these descriptions is the fright that gripped this particular night.


Here's an excerpt of Col Tej Kumar Tikoo's book, Kashmir: Its Aborigines and Their Exodus, describing the fateful night:

"As the night fell, the microscopic community became panic-stricken when the Valley began reverberating with the war-cries of Islamists, who had stage-managed the whole event with great care; choosing its timing and the slogans to be used. A host of highly provocative, communal and threatening slogans, interspersed with martial songs, incited the Muslims to come out on the streets and break the chains of 'slavery'. These exhortations urged the faithful to give a final push to the Kafir in order to ring in the true Islamic order. These slogans were mixed with precise and unambiguous threats to Pandits.They were presented with three choices - Ralive, Tsaliv ya Galive (convert to Islam, leave the place or perish). Tens of thousands of Kashmiri Muslims poured into the streets of the Valley, shouting 'death to India' and death to Kafirs...

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... The Pandits could see the writing on the wall. If they were lucky enough to see the night through, they would have to vacate the place before they met the same fate as Tikka Lal Taploo and many others. The Seventh Exodus was surely staring them in the face. By morning, it became apparent to Pandits that Kashmiri Muslims had decided to throw them out from the Valley. Broadcasting vicious Jehadi sermons and revolutionary songs, interspersed with blood curdling shouts and shrieks, threatening Kashmiri Pandits with dire consequences, became a routine 'Mantra' of the Muslims of the Valley, to force them to flee from Kashmir..."

#KPExodusDay Abandoned houses of Kashmiri Pandits In Kashmir (via "A Long Dream of Home" by Siddarth Gigoo) pic.twitter.com/WFOYpBwbil

Srivatsan V (@Sr1vatsanV) January 18, 2016
Different accounts give different statistics of the total number of Kashmiri Pandits who fled their homes for their life in the 1990s. While some say around 1,00,000 of them had left the valley, others suggest figures as high as 1,50,000 to 1,90,000.
A report by the Jammu and Kashmir government says as many as 219 people from this community were killed in the region between 1989 and 2004.

In his book, Our Moon Has Blood Clots, author and journalist Rahul Pandita gives a timeline of the events that brought about the exodus. In this, Pandita writes about the murder of political activist Tika Lal Taploo in September 1989 and goes on list many more horrid memories.


Here's an excerpt of this timeline:

'September 1989

Pandit political activist, Tika Lal Taploo is shot dead by armed men outside his residence.

January 1990

Massive crowds assemble in mosques across valley, shouting anti-india, anti-pandit slogans. The exodus of Kashmiri Pandits begins. In the next few months, hundreds of innocent Pandits are tortured, killed and raped. By the year-end, about 350,000 Pandits have escaped from the Valley and taken refuge in Jammy and elsewhere. Only a handful of them stay back.

March 1997

Terrorists drag out seven Kashmiri Pandits from their houses in Sangrampora village and gun them down.

January 1998

23 Kashmiri Pandits, including women and children, shot in cold blood in Wandhama Village.

March 2003

24 Kashmiri Pandits, including infants, brutally shot dead in Nadimarg Village.

2012

Thousands of Pandits still languish in refugee settlements of 8 x 8. After more than two decades, the Kashmiri Pandit community has still not been able to return to their ancestral land. They are dispersed all over from Jammu to Johannesburg."

India has seen several changes ever since that fateful night in 1990. New governments have come and gone, multiple developments have come forth nationwide, but scores of Kashmiri Pandits who were chased out of their homes have still not been able to find a way back.

https://www.indiatoday.in/fyi/story...anuary-19-jammu-and-kashmir-304487-2016-01-19

 

[Leviza]

There are some people who are afraid of what will happen etc etc
The only solution of Kashmir is make it world biggest nightmare and concern

one simple solution is to put world on notice if Indian army doesn’t leave Kashmir by 7 days time then it’s a full scale was including whoever support India in any way

if Kashmiri people doesn’t have right to live their life then we will make sure no one in India and her biggest supporters ( we know who it is )

trust me there won’t be any war and world will try to address this Kashmir issue properly but if we keep showing weakness like from like 7 decades, nothing will happen and India will keep on exploiting this stalemate

 

[Abdul Rehman Majeed]

Man, you really want a nuclear war ?? You think you will find a bunker to hide in ??

Kashmir needs a political solution.

Here's my contribution towards that :

1. Let India and Pakistan both become governed by the same Progressive / Socialist Direct Democracy system, while remaining two independent countries. This will be like how pre-2003 Iraq and Syria were, both governed by Ba'ath ideology while remaining two independent republics.

2. Let the India-administered Kashmir remain with India and Pakistan-administered Kashmir remain with Pakistan.

3. Convert the LoC into an International Border which is passable by passport for the reasons of trade, tourism and family visits.
​

This will remove most of the militant ideology surrounding the Kashmir issue. The only remaining militantism will be of the Regressive religious sort and that can be sorted out by both countries.

And this will also have the great effect of bringing both countries to a Progressive political system and governance.

@litman @fitpOsitive @StormBreaker

India nukes are a dud.

Thermonuclear fizzle: India needs to test again
By Dr A Gopalakrishnan
September 22, 2009 17:44 IST
Nuclear scientist Dr A Gopalakrishnan agrees that the 1998 thermonuclear test was a 'fizzle' and wants India to conduct a nuclear test again.


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I fully agree with K Santhanam that the single thermonuclear device we tested in 1998 did not produce anywhere near the expected design yield. I know this reliably, from multiple knowledgeable sources.

According to them, only 15 to 20 percent of the intended release of fusion energy was actually achieved. However, what happened is neither unusual nor was it a 'scientific failure' on the part of the Bhabha Atomic Research Centre/Defence Research and Development Organisation scientists.

All nations which have perfected fusion bombs have carried out several development tests, and no country has hit it perfect in their first test! Dr R Chidambaram and A P J Abdul Kalam should know this well, that they alone are not super-scientists!

But, as a nuclear engineer myself, I am appalled that a scientist of Dr Chidambaram's stature could claim that this solitary test was perfect and, for further fine-tuning of the design, we do not need any more tests, rather we could rely solely on computer simulations!

The establishment of a validated computer simulation model requires a reasonably large body of data to be obtained from a minimum set of well-structured tests, in each of which certain critical parameters are systematically altered. This is true not only for nuclear tests, but even for pharmaceutical or material development tests, etc. No extrapolation or improvement of the current faulty design can be done without more weapon tests.

Dr Chidambaram is an enormously gifted high-pressure physicist who was associated for years as a member of the weapons team led by Dr P K Iyengar. Dr Iyengar is truly considered to be the father of the Indian thermonuclear weapons development. Soon after the 1998 tests, Dr Iyengar himself has come out with scientific details to show that the thermonuclear device of 1998 did not function at all as per design or as expected.

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Incidentally, Dr Kalam, who has also commented on the yield, is neither a nuclear scientist nor did he have any major role or contribution in the country's nuclear weapons development.

Certain DRDO labs and their specific groups have contributed, and the military establishment under Dr Kalam's overall guidance gave much of the logistical support at the test site. It is ridiculous to see the Indian media and many admirers of Dr Kalam dubbing him wrongly as the 'Father of the Nuclear Bomb'.

More pathetic is the spectacle of Dr Kalam silently taking the bow and indirectly accepting the accolades wrongly directed at him, when he is aware that it is really the qualified and experienced scientists in BARC like the late Dr Raja Ramanna, Dr Iyengar, Dr Chidambaram, Dr S K Sikka and others over the years who are to be applauded for this achievement.

It seems highly unethical of Dr Kalam to accept credit when he knows it does not belong to him. In the same vein, when it comes to contradicting Dr Santhanam's belated admission of the truth, Dr Kalam has neither the technical qualifications nor the direct participatory experience to technically comment on the veracity of the government position.

In summary, it is a fact that India has no proven capability today to design and deliver a thermonuclear warhead for the Indian armed forces.

Dr Kalam, who is contradicting Dr Santhanam's position, is neither a scientist who understands fusion physics or weapons design in depth, nor was he intimately involved in the device design or its post-test analysis. Dr Chidambaram in 1998 had taken the same government position as today, and being a part of the Prime Minister's Office, he cannot contradict it. Dr Kalam and DR Chidambaram have both gained a great deal personally in terms of official positions and awards, through their recognition as the 'great first-time developers' of the Indian fusion bomb, and they would not like this position of fame to be damaged.

In summary, the question before the country is: Do we need thermonuclear weapons as part of our arsenal for deterrence? If the answer is yes, India must conduct further tests, irrespective of any under-the-table promise that might have been given by the United Progressive Alliance government to the Americans that India will not conduct any more tests. But the government has to transparently and convincingly substantiate the reasons for not conducting any more tests, and that reason should not be linked to the Indo-US nuclear deal or the Nuclear Suppliers Group waiver getting into trouble if we undertake more tests.

Dr A Gopalakrishnan, former chairman of India's Atomic Energy Regulatory Board, made these observations in a letter to diplomat and rediff.com columnist T P Sreenivasan.

https://www.rediff.com/news/column/thermonuclear-fizzle-india-needs-to-test-again/20090922.htm

 

[Trango Towers]

Kashmir Ka Masla Jihad Se Hal Hoga | Moulana Abdul Akbar Chitrali Speech

Maulana should lose weight first and then go.

 

[Abdul Rehman Majeed]

Maulana should lose weight first and then go.

And people should grow a pair instead of finding excuses.