Kabul Blast near Indian Embassy: Plot against Pakistan

[bones20]

The goal of modern propaganda is no longer to transform opinion but to arouse an active and mythical belief. Well the above article let me say Crap article perfectly displays the above quote...Logic given in the article is flawed and a stupid way of portraying Pakistan as a victim - as if the whole world(read non-islamic world) is waiting desperately to invade Pakistan and deprive her of its nuclear power or may be enslave them and to achieve that is ready to blow off their own people.


India want to blow their own embassy to invade Pakistan?? How many will fall for that kind of propaganda(hope not many)?? I mean comon - yes Pakistan is a victim of terrorism(though unfortunately mess created by them to some extent) but can anyone deny that a prosperous pakistan is good for the whole south Asia and world peace?? If that's true how can India/Us or all the so called Zionist states will kill their own people to create trouble for rest of their people...hehehe...man this is crazy

you are NOT an Indian and I am not saying metaphorically.

To some extent? "you" own the pie and are puking now that you have to eat it.

 

[rajeev]

I am not a big fan of Zahid Ahmad either, so as many more that I know personally. However, your mentioning of ZH again and again and again already shows that he has taken over your nerves. You can’t deny it. And by the way try comparing ZH with Indian media ( Aaj tak, Star news, Times of India etc..) , a very clear picture will emerge to you.

Thank God atleast you are not! But look at the other people in forum who feels he is the messaih! That is what I was telling you guys! Only conspiracy theories

http://www.defence.pk/forums/strategic-geopolitical-issues/35803-zaid-hamids-take-klb.html

 

[Halaku Khan]

Hi Halaku..neither i am gullible nor feeble minded, yeah i may be less informed than you. Anyways i cannot use it is an excuse i should have done more research before claiming something. Though samjhauta express was used just as an example to derive a different point which is people on both sides just blame without proof.

Sorry for the exasperated outburst. But here is a link: The Hindu : National : U.N. sanction on Lashkar operative a blow to Pakistan

Seems to be a serious allegation against a national political party. Why would they do that? To get some muslim votes? dont you think by doing that they would eventually help RSS and like minded people..after all they took the so-called hindu revenge against muslims...Can you please back up your claim with some source??

The fact that they accused Purohit for Samjhauta without any credible evidence itself reeks of malafide intent. Yes, the motive must have been the hope of getting votes from some community.

Former ATS Chief Karkare was apparently deeply anguished at being used in this dishonest manner: ‘Karkare had wept over Malegaon charges’ (This story puts a slightly different spin but you have to make your own judgment about the situation.)

 

[ouiouiouiouiouioui]

well US ambassador said it is by ISI......i dont know why ISI is doing this.....why they want to de-stabilie pakistan....

 

[deckingraj]

The fact that they accused Purohit for Samjhauta without any credible evidence itself reeks of malafide intent. Yes, the motive must have been the hope of getting votes from some community.

Former ATS Chief Karkare was apparently deeply anguished at being used in this dishonest manner: ‘Karkare had wept over Malegaon charges’ (This story puts a slightly different spin but you have to make your own judgment about the situation.)

Thanks Halaku for the link. It definitely gave me more insight into what you wanted to say. However my general point was to portray that people on both sides have a tendency(due to gross mistrust) to blame each other for any wrong doing in their countries without verifying the facts. Anyways i must say i stand corrected as far as Samjhauta Express issue is concerned

 

[deckingraj]

Well first Mr. Deckingraj you need to provide a link for this article.
Anyways If this article is true then Mr. Qureshi answers is a sure sign of desperation isn't it. LONG DAM QUEUES!!!

Agreed. It do show that pakistan has concerns over growing india presence and its influence in afghanistan. After all it is not as per their National Interest which before 9/11 was used to be their backyard. I would have loved to give you the link earlier however i was not a full member but now i am ..so here you go

The Telegraph - Calcutta (Kolkata) | Frontpage | Pak sends a message via Kabul bomber

I have always been advocate of large Indian presences in Afganistan, who cares really what Mr. Qureshi thinks.

Agreed. We should not care about what Mr Qureshi is saying. We should do whatever is in our National Interest.

A large structured Indian presences is a final blow to terrorism for India.

Indeed. All the relief work that we are doing there will definitely help us in that regard.

P.S if i spelled presences wrong, i was lazy to google the correct spelling.

No worries.

 

[deckingraj]

In Pakistan, if you speak anything against the prevailing thought, you are labeled as non-patriot, Indian agent, etc. that is not the case in India. In India, one can say anything and no one blames them.

Hey rajeeV just see the below given statement. This is exactly what i am debating about. Above description of people lies on both sides of border. I am not an Indian because i am speaking against the prevailing thoughts.

you are NOT an Indian and I am not saying metaphorically.

To some extent? "you" own the pie and are puking now that you have to eat it.

Man i am here to make friends and discuss my POV hence i am ignoring your offensive comments. I am sikh and lot of punjabis on both sides of the border can easily describe you what price we had to pay for partition...Nothing to boast about but look at all the bravery records in india you will be surprised to find out that even with 2% of population in india their bravery and love for nation is overwhelming. I am very much an indian if not more than neither less than you. I love my country and a proud indian. Anyways enough of emotional outburst and back to topic..


My POV is that people on both sides have tendency to blame each other for all the wrong doings in their own country without verifying the facts. If you see my comments from the start this is the only point i am trying to prove. Next time i would request you to kindly understand the POV before challenging one's nationality

 

[Spring Onion]

you are NOT an Indian and I am not saying metaphorically.

To some extent? "you" own the pie and are puking now that you have to eat it.

So anyone who tries to speak a balanced view is NOT an INDIAN?


Come on man. His posts are far better than almost all of us. He is right. Both sides are propogating.

While in my personal view Indian media and policy makers being more foolish tend to spread laughable propaganda most of the times.

On our side we also have similar people but indeed comparitively less foolish.

 

[Spring Onion]

well US ambassador said it is by ISI......i dont know why ISI is doing this.....why they want to de-stabilie pakistan....

Bwahhh nah its otherway round. They want destabalise ISI.


You can find more brazen propaganda against ISI by US/CIA pentagon and now India has jumped in too just to cash the situation.

Pakistan is not at all in a position to do something like this at this time.

Even a silly person knows that anything happens at this time in India or Afghanistan against India, willl be blamed on Pakistan.

 

[humblehobbes]

On our side we also have similar people but indeed comparitively less foolish.

Someone spoke about brahmin tyrrany in present day India, when there is a severe reservation regiment that keeps brahmins from wielding real power!!!

Off topic! but still, cant help taking a swipe

 

[EjazR]

I guess what deckingraj is saying re the Samjhota express is that every terrorist attack is blamed on ISI even before all investigations are complete.

Although Lt. Purohit may not have been involved in Samjhota itself he is still accused of links with the now banned Abhinav Bharat which conducted multiple terrorists acts around India. Even charge sheets have been filed. Ofcourse the courts will have to proove if he is guilty but because it is a high profile case. Its very doubtful the CBI would chargesheet someone without having a strong case.
CBI chargesheets Malegaon accused Rakesh Dhawde in Nanded case
Year later, ATS says fresh leads in Malegaon probe

 

[deckingraj]

I guess what deckingraj is saying re the Samjhota express is that every terrorist attack is blamed on ISI even before all investigations are complete.

Bingo!!!... Thanks for asserting it again

 

[Nemesis]

Certainly propagandists and hate mongers are present in both countries. For every hate monger in Pakistan, we have one in India. However, as India is largely secular, the ability of these people to influence public opinion is far less in India.

Moreover, despite aberrations like Star News and India TV, the Indian media is far more balanced and fair than the media in Pakistan. Despite what some Pakistani members may think, they are not in the business of spreading hatred against Pakistan.