Justice Ather Minallah bombshell - Courts overthrowing PTI Govt prevented Martial Law

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

The problem is this:

If it is true that the Army has indeed played its cards well: as you say:



Then how can an emasculated, distracted and divided population rise up against the situation as you describe it:



Given the above, it is not understandable to come to the conclusion that nothing can change for the foreseeable future?

That was the intent of my post - to point out that uprooting an entrenched parasitic Army and Establishment elite would require the kind of mass public awareness and protests that we have seen in Turkey (for example), and at the moment I don’t believe we have achieved that critical mass of public outrage.

 

[VCheng]

That was the intent of my post - to point out that uprooting an entrenched parasitic Army and Establishment elite would require the kind of mass public awareness and protests that we have seen in Turkey (for example), and at the moment I don’t believe we have achieved that critical mass of public outrage.

Then it seems to me that we think more alike than not.

I would even dare add that building in enough pressure release points periodically to ensure that such a critical mass is not reached is one of the enduring aspects of this sad and sorry system.

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

Justice Athar minullah is lying

He opened the Islamabad high court to save bajwa's job
Bajwa had a petition ready through Army tout molvi since march because he feared Imran might remove him.

I thought that is basically what he said - the courts were opened to prevent Bajwa from getting fired because if that move had not been preempted, Bajwa was ready to carry out a Military Coup.

Either way, a shameful act by the Chief Justice of the Islamabad High Court - doctrine of necessity to sanction a covert Military Coup instead of an Overt Military Coup.

Then it seems to me that we think more alike than not.

I would even dare add that building in enough pressure release points periodically to ensure that such a critical mass is not reached is one of the enduring aspects of this sad and sorry system.

As much as I hate to admit it, you have been correct with your analysis all these years.

The system has been set up by the Army & Establishment Elite to perpetuate the status quo and maintain power and influence in the hands of said Elite.

 

[The Accountant]

NAM law amendment is just continuation of NAB Ordinance promulgated by Imran Khan government.

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Negative marks for lies miss information and derailing thread

 

[SIPRA]

Justice Athar minullah is lying

I don't think so; though I don't like this scoundrel of a judge. In any case, his revelations are very significant and damning. They imply that some message from Mir Bajwa was communicated to the CJs of Islamabad High Court and Supreme Court, to comply, otherwise Martial Law would be imposed. Whether it was a bluff, by Mir Bajwa, or otherwise, we would never know.

 

[Olympus81]

So Mr.Athar admits he was incompetent and bowed down before COAS threat of martial law?

 

[Goenitz]

Lol, IHC was opened to save b****** *** as they were rumor that IK has removed him. Even if martial law had been imposed it needs to be legalized through court. Only if the judges had the balls to make civilian supreme. Instead they chose to be subservient to GHQ.

They did a pre-emptive move.. I mean the can't solve decades old cases but taking actions to prevent a crime to occur..

 

[newb3e]

So Mr.Athar admits he was incompetent and bowed down before COAS threat of martial law?

off course he is just a puppet!

 

[Olympus81]

off course he is just a puppet!

Then he is no better than the PDM stooges forced down our throats.

 

[newb3e]

Then he is no better than the PDM stooges forced down our throats.

no judiciary no military no bureaucrat is working for People of Pakistan they are working for their personal and interests of elites!

hum toh mazdoor cockroach hain barray sabhun ki khidmat aur ayashi ko finance karnay keh liye!

 

[VCheng]

As much as I hate to admit it, you have been correct with your analysis all these years.

The system has been set up by the Army & Establishment Elite to perpetuate the status quo and maintain power and influence in the hands of said Elite.

So I suppose you do not hate me anymore.

Seriously, though, your admission is vindication of sorts, but it speaks to your character. Respect.

What I do struggle with is not the past analyses here, but whether any solution can be found to actually break this endless national logjam by design. It still eludes me, but I keep looking.

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

So I suppose you do not hate me anymore.

Seriously, though, your admission is vindication of sorts, but it speaks to your character. Respect.

What I do struggle with is not the past analyses here, but whether any solution can be found to actually break this endless national logjam by design. It still eludes me, but I keep looking.

No, never hated, resented perhaps because of perceptions that you were backstabbing your country of origin.

And while I may not have been responsible for all of it, I will apologize for what occurred on this forum in terms of people digging up details of your personal life and attacking and abusing you.

You have my respect for continuing to push your point of view, despite being completely outnumbered and attacked and censored incessantly.

As far as solutions - @SQ8 probably has it correct - it will take a bloody and violent revolution to purge Pakistan from the parasites that have taken hold of it.

 

[VCheng]

No, never hated, resented perhaps because of perceptions that you were backstabbing your country of origin.

And while I may not have been responsible for all of it, I will apologize for what occurred on this forum in terms of people digging up details of your personal life and attacking and abusing you.

You have my respect for continuing to push your point of view, despite being completely outnumbered and attacked and censored incessantly.

As far as solutions - @SQ8 probably has it correct - it will take a bloody and violent revolution to purge Pakistan from the parasites that have taken hold of it.

Thank you for saying that, but no apologies needed. I am old enough to realize that speaking the truth is quite often a very lonely endeavor, but one that must somehow be maintained, no matter what, for it is worth it in the end.

Back on topic, just what exactly is the Honorable Judge saying? That in order to prevent overt martial law, the judiciary conspired with the military overlords to enforce a covert martial law? How does this help the judiciary's image, or the economic and social morass the country finds itself in?

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

As far as solutions - @SQ8 probably has it correct - it will take a bloody and violent revolution to purge Pakistan from the parasites that have taken hold of it, and the Army and Establishment Elite know that, hence the 'periodic pressure release points'.

Before the PTI, the Army hid behind the 'oh, these dynastic politicians running the major political parties are corrupt and incompetent, we are your savior'. Well, whether the PTI was helped into winning or prevented from winning big in 2018 - that victory introduced a new third national political party into domestic power dynamics that took away the excuse the Army hid behind. The hope here is that Imran Khan chooses to play the long game and continues to leverage social media to get his message out.

Imran Khan may not be the best candidate for Prime Minister by any means, but he has become the most influential and important public leader since Bhutto (if not Jinnah) who can rally public sentiment in favor of a movement for genuine democracy free from the influence of the Army elite.

 

[General Dong]

Pakistan died in 1971. It became Bangladesh. I dont know what to call my homeland, a modern day East Indian Company?